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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:43 pm 
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CRT IN COOPERATION WITH DON KING & BOB ARUM PROUDLY ANNOUNCE THE "PUT YOUR ASS IN A TAXI" FIGHT TO END ALL FIGHTS !!!


In the BLUE corner:............The Fear Mongering Tourist




In the RED corner:................The Ignorant Resident



This is a fight to the finish and will end when:

one or the other side says "uncle" 13 times without stuttering

or

admin locks the thread

or

everyone finally comes to their senses and decides everyone has their own personal safety comfort level and should adhere to that not one that someone else is comfortable with.
:D i see lock the thread or it magically disapears like last post wins and Pac 55 :cry: :cry: thankfully it was not my posts that are insightfull and have alot of meaning :D :P :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:49 pm 
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El Ciego wrote:

3. If I give up my money easily, the bad guys will not kill me, at least 99 out of 100 times.



EC, would appreciate you giving me your schedule next time you are in San Jose as I always could always use a few extra colonies. :lol:

Your points are taken but just as their are a few locals who might trivialize the danger their are a few tourists who blow every reported crime out of proportion. Neither position helps "Joe Average" make an informed decision. What does help JA is the often repeated advice to travel with a wingman during the day on his first couple of trips to San Jose and to take a taxi at night.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:58 pm 
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OK! guys,

I AM SORRY AND I APPOLOGIZE FOR STARTING SUCH A BIG CONTROVERSY :oops: :oops:

I have never said guys, especially newbees, should not be careful when here; I have never said one should never take a taxi; I have never said there was no crime here; I have only expressed my opinion that the way some react and report incidents here, the true facts are blown out of proportion. I firmly agree that newbee should be made aware that this is not Mayberry USA and there are dangers here just as in any large ciity (and a lot of Mayberries) in the USA. BUT if I were a newbee and read some of the reports on here, I would probably have second thoughts about coming here, SEX OR NO SEX; beautiful latinas or no :!: :!:

Maybe what we need is a MUST READ sticky for newbees stating that when in CR one should be careful and not do anything stupid just as when in high crime areas in the USA. But I do not see that we have to be a news agency reporting every crime that occurs here and making it sound like it occurs every night in the gulch!!

Some on this board are throually convinced that WE only constitute less than 10% of the guys that come here (and that 90% has never read this board) If that is the case, just who are we trying to eduacate as to the dangers or lack of? guys that already know.

Again, as I have said in the past, everyone that comes here should do what make them feel most comfortable while here. I soley want each and every guy to have a great time while here. I have aways said"be careful" but I still also say "If you have to live in fear, it is not worth it"

This is my humble opinion and if it rubs some guys the wrong way, again I am sorry!!

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:21 am 
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It is true that there is crime in every city . But guys pulling up in a car and waving a gun the way Scubabum described is more common in SJ than many US cities. I lived downtown Atlanta and walked all over the place at night and I will say I wouldn't do that here. For guys that come into town for the weekend or a week, I recommend the upmost precaution. Why not ? A taxi is only a dollar from the DR to the Pres. I know that this guy was robbed between the street and the Hotel Entrance but we don't know the exact circumstances. I'll bet he didn't just get out of a taxi. Did they follow him from somewhere ? I will , in the future, ask the taxi to wait until I get inside the building -simply because there is a less likely chance someone would do something with a taxi waiting. "Senor espere un segundo por favor" He will wait because he thinks I may be coming right back. When I get to the entrance I will wave him on. I'm sure someone will argue and that person can do whatever they want. At this point in my life, I'm not trying to prove anything to anyone else. I don't care if it's fair or not that I have to pay a dollar. I have been here for almost two years and haven't had any incidents. Probably , because I take many precautions. An example is that while driving and approaching a red light, I don't pull right up and park bumper to bumper to the car in front of me. I stay back and leave room to drive forward to the left or right, even if I have to go over a curb, were someone to approach my vehicle. I have taken many taxis a few blocks or right around the corner. The minimum charge is 400 colones , less than a dollar. Many crimes are not reported here so I really don't rely on the statistics and I certainly don't want me or any other CRT bro to be one.


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Rule #2. Don't take prostitutes to your personal residence.

Rule #3. Don't send money.

Rule #4. Never Go BB Sexo

Rule #5. Don't make friends with the Security, Waitstaff, Etc.

Rule #6. Never fight over a chica

Rule #7. Don't get drunk and let chicas rob you while you sleep.

Rule #8. Don't go against your instinct during the interview.

Rule #9. Don't pay in advance

Rule #10. Don't miss your plane home.

Rule #11. Don't give money to the beggers.

Rule #12. Don't fall in love with a chica

Rule #13. Be Assertive. Example: Insist on a Taxi using the "maria".

Rule #14. Don't be an "ugly American"

Rule #15. Don't be timid. If you want the girl to watch porn , tell her. I promise it's not her first time.

Can someone please finish these. My girlfriend is calling and I'm in trouble for leaving the toilet seat up.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:57 am 
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Icantstayaway,

After reading your 2 posts here, I am really wondering just why you are living here!! Sounds like you are living a misserable life in so much fear every time you step out of your house. I to would advise people that are new to CR or have only been here a few times and are not comfortable with the differences between here (or any foreign country) and the USA, to take taxis, go in groups, not go out on the streets drunk, don't be obnoxious (ugly American), don't do things to atract attention. But if you are going to live here, you should NOT BE paranoid and you sound like you are.

I to have lived here for a while (1 and 1/2 years) and have been coming here for many years. I to have had no serious problems, I to am well aware that I could be robbed the next time I walk out the door just as I could if I were living in the States, I to realize there is a problem with crime here just as almost anywhere in the world. What I tell newbees here is really NO different than what I would tell someone new to the small north Al. town where I worked before moving here (actually that was one of the most dangerous and violent places I have ever seen). I may be mugged the next time I go into the gulch, just as I might be mugged if I went into downtown USA city. BUT I REFUSE TO LIVE MY LIFE IN FEAR!

I do not have a car; I walk or ride the bus everywhere I go here (taxi if very late at night and the bus has stopped running) I am careful and always aware of what is going on around me. I try to blend in as much as possible. I except that things and ideas are different here. I accept that because of the economy here, there are a high number of desperate people here. But I do not accept that just because I live here, that I have to live in fear and can not enjoy my life here and do the things I want to do!!! IMHO

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It's all common sense Hombres!(but common sense isn't all that common) :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:23 pm 
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Wow.. Three whole pages over the simple topic of getting a taxi or not. Come on guys, give me a break...


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:27 pm 
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Thirdworld wrote:
Wow.. Three whole pages over the simple topic of getting a taxi or not. Come on guys, give me a break...


That's what I was thinking!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:34 pm 
For some reason this topic seems to bring out the worst in some guys. What ever happened to agreeing to disagree?

In the end it is an individual choice without a single perfect solution, so why all the hostility? The whole point of having a board like this is to have the benefit of looking at situations from different perspectives.

For some reason some guys feel the need to impose their own point of view as the only one that is valid.

I walk at night in San Jose, there are risks.

I use Taxis at night in San Jose, there are risks.

Everyone needs to weigh those risks for themselves.

What is so complicated about that? I don't get the hostility.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:00 pm 
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Sorry to break in here at such a crucial moment but I thought some of the great insight from some of our insightful members could shed some light in here. Maybe this explains some of the knee-jerkiness of this thread :D :shock: :roll: ???

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I'll explain the hostility:

Monger A tries to warn people that this ain't Kansas. He may be new to the scene or he may have some gulch experience. In either case, he knows that there are dangers and that the crimes against gringos are concentrated in a fairly small area. He wants to make sure that Joe Average from Middle America does not walk into a hornets nest.

Monger B has a little or a lot more experience. He has stretched his comfort zone to encompass the gulch. He takes precautions like picking his time and picking his places but does not even notice anymore because they are ingrained in his persona now. He sees the conscious thoughts of security to be paranoia and exaggerated risk. He does not want any harm to come to a newbie either but sees Monger A's warnings as overstated and sez so...

Monger A gets hostile because he is feeling righteous indignation: He tried to do a good thing and got "belittled" and disrespected, in his opinion. Strong post to follow...

Monger B feels that Monger A is overreacting to the whole thing and defends his position, still feeling that he is also defending the Newbie by giving him the straight poop and we are off to the races.

Both Mongers A and B are correct. I remember my first night in SJO, staying at the SL alone. I was so nervous about the gulch at night I nearly didn't go to the DR. A week later it was no big deal and a month after that I was showing the new guys around the gulch. Perceptions change with experience. The danger is not diminished, but learning the area and the program lends confidence and a more realistic assessment of the actual risks.

My advice: Play it safe while you get to know the gulch. Find a wingman with some experience and listen to what he sez. Make your own decisions but make them informed decisions. Don't risk more than you can afford to lose. :wink:

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:12 pm 
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I dunno Pacifica55 :D :D ??? That seems way too complicated to me but then again I am a mongerer Z type :wink: :)

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OK! guys,

Monger B promises NO MORE POSTS ON THIS SUBJECT :!:

There will never be total agreement on the subject, no one is totally wrong nor totally right. I believe a lot of very good points have been made on both sides. What it boils down to is EVERYONE SHOULD DO WHAT MAKES THEM COMFORTABLE!

Lets put the subject to bed and go have fun with the chicas (and take the chicas to bed) :twisted:

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:D :D :D :D :D time to shave my balls :D :D :D :D with a safety razor :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: no straight edge razor for me :!: :!: :!: to dangerous :D :D :D :D :D


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