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Damn Kc, you have BFE written on your forehead?

There are some helpful suggestions in this thread. I think it comes down to whatever works for you. I don't have much to add because I think I've been asked up front twice, and both times I jokingly embarrassed them i.e. "why, you arent going to take off your pants and show me a dick are you?"
or plainly tell them it's an ugly request and she's better than that. A VERY short reassurance that I'm not a POS trying to short her on her money.


To me any "lengthy" discussion on time and money especially in the room kills my wood like no other.

Any sort of extreme formalities just plain kills the mood for me right then and there. So to write down what time she started (for me) puts that mood out there. Obviously this works for Kc, and I say keep on if it's working out. But I just cannot have a session if it has a formal over tone to it. But I still contend to do whatever works for you.

You know when I talk to girls at the DR one of the obvious questions I ask is What's up or what are you doing (something of the like) with a flirtatious smile if it's reciprocated. If she replies back "nothing, just working". "I say oh too bad." "She says why to bad?"

And I tell her I'm looking for a girl who wants to have fun, not work....

Usually an instant smile cascades across thier face and the tone is set and strengthened from there...

MG you can readily use any line I throw out there amigo. Just remember, if any comment ever gets you slapped don't tell 'em Cujo sent you.


Cujo

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"Pain is the fuel that fans the flames of my pyre. A battle plan is only as good as the general carrying it out on the field. This is my war son, and I have the biggest bombs and the smallest conscience"...

I am totally with you. I just hate getting into these arguments late in the session. It ruins the whole thing for me.

I bring it up before leaving for my hotel at the same time that I talk about their. The only thing that I do back at the room is write down the time so that they see I do it, but I don't say a word.

The two hour session thing has been somewhat new territory for me and I have found it brings up new challenges. What I have found is that if you don't have it all spelled out before you get in the cab and unless you write down a start time, they will try to renegotiate the session into $100 for an hour (what they are conditioned for).

But I am with you, nothing kills the experience for me like an argument over time/money.

I only had one on the last trip ask me for the money up front. I believe that it had to do with better pre-screening/connecting with them this trip. With the lady's that had what I call "dead eys", I was cordial, but I moved on immediately.

The one that asked me for the money up front, and I told her "It's too bad that you will never get to know how good I was going to make you feel!" She looked a little shocked but dropped it, we had a nice time and she took the money later.

Something else that I found to make them laugh in negotations. When negotiating down, I would tell them, "If you are not happy, you don't have to pay me." At first many did not understand, but when they thought about it and figured out what I had said, most got quite a laugh.

Happy holidays.........

Steve - Santas Bro

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If they insist on money up front, my best advise is to shut it down right there.

IMHO this is a great leading indicator that you have made a bad choice. Most of my bad experiences have been with women that play the "pay me first" card the hardest.

Even if they eventually give in, they will find something else to argue about later in the session. I pay for the experience not just the sex. Nothing ruins the experience for me more than an arguement at the end.

I've NEVER had a good "pay-up-front" experience.

I've been lucky so far. The pay up front girls I've had so far have been great to acceptable most times. But I am really trying to get ideas to add to my toolbelt for dealing with the chicas I don't want to pass on yet avoid paying upfront.

There have been some great suggestions. The chit chat/get to know the girl will work for me sometimes but my Spanish is still pretty rudimentary (Pimsleur I). The half now-half later may work really well. I will try to make that a part of my normal, in room conversation and not give them any options - "would you like a drink?", "here is 1/2 now and the other 1/2 I'll put on the desk for after, now let's go take a shower together"

TADA


Get better and this subject will become close to irrelavant.


Cujo

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"Pain is the fuel that fans the flames of my pyre. A battle plan is only as good as the general carrying it out on the field. This is my war son, and I have the biggest bombs and the smallest conscience"...

I stay at the Presidente so I have the option of getting a chica stopped before she gets out the door. With this in mind, if there is a request for $ up front, I take the full amount, count it for her to see and place it across the room. If this is not acceptable with no additional comment from her my next word is "adios".
I do feel that there is some valid concern on their part about getting paid in full or at all and I am willing to go as far as at least showing them that I have the cash.

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