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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:36 pm 
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Yes - I know - Never do it.

But there is the occasional Chica that you just can't walk away from for whatever reason and she insist on being paid up front.

I'm interested in the tips and tricks other guys use to move past this without just giving her the $$ or saying NEXT!


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:45 pm 
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In general....when a chica asks to be paid up front, it is a "RED FLAG" of potential other problems lingering. I've found it best to "abort the mission" at this point.

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Some will say pay half now, and half after.


If you speak spanish, you could always joke with them or make them feel embarrassed for even bringing it up. Usually if the connection is deeper than "Hola" then it's not even an issue.

Or if she insists maybe you could counter "Hey, I didn't ask for a sample blowjob behind the slot machine did I?" :lol: :lol:

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Jadcujo wrote:
Or if she insists maybe you could counter "Hey, I didn't ask for a sample blowjob behind the slot machine did I?"

Cujo,
I hope you don't mind, but I'm gonna have to use that line. That's brilliant!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Jadcujo wrote:
Some will say pay half now, and half after.


That's what I try for if it is an issue. Girls have told me guys try to underpay after the session, just like some chicas will try to overcharge if things are not very clear up front. It's just good business for them to get "their" money before the session begins... and I'm sure it can happen that a girl try to get a guy going for 30 minutes or something and he's just not able.. then he says "hey, YOU didn't perform so I'm not giving you all the money". Sometimes due to exuberance and anticipation things are left out in the up front negotiations so when you get back to the hotel you have to reiterate and get confirmation on everything you expect knowing that if there is a hitch you have to compromise or terminate before it begins. Example- BBBJ sin condom could technically last for two minutes unless you agree on time. I had a girl go maybe 30 seconds and then say "no mas, that was without condom and you did not say how much time".

Another minor thing that pays off, when she leaves her ID at the front desk tell the front desk not to give it back to her until they hear from you and have the front desk tell her that's the deal. She won't think she can just jump into her pants and run out on you.




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Or if she insists maybe you could counter "Hey, I didn't ask for a sample blowjob behind the slot machine did I?


Excellent!!! :lol:


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Pacifica55 wrote:
I have never had one leave because I refused to pay upfront.

Last year I hooked up with a real beauty at LDV in Cartagena. Blonde, breasts bursting out of her top, etc.

We agreed on a price for 2 hrs but when we got to my apartment she wanted it up front. It was about 2AM and I had a headache and didn't feel like any drama so I didn't offer her half or stick it under an ashtray (both things I've done with others).

The mood was cordial but with neither of us backing down I showed her the door and she left without hesitation.

If I had felt up to it I would have beat her back to LDV (only 4 blocks away) and found a suitable substitute but I wrote it off and went to bed alone.


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I'm not an advocate of paying up front. Certainly a lot of guys do and never have a problem. We only hear about a problem when something bad happened. Obviously if you get back to the room and she goes 180 on you and the hair is standing up on your neck, terminate. However, if you have one you really want to be with and she is looking out for herself, compromise. That's my opinion. I only paid up front once on my first trip to CR and at that point did not know CRT existed. It went against what my gut told me but I figured maybe I was supposed to. It worked out and I'm still friends with the girl. But I'm not going to kick a real babe out the door for asking to be paid up front unless she gets that hard nosed business attitude because at that point all illusion of GFE is gone. I assume we generally take girls who are calm, sweet and reasonable. As long as she stays that way I'm going to work it out with her.


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Last trip, I found a street chica [YES....IT WAS A CHICA. Professional monger here, do not attempt this in the gulch :P ] that I took back to the hotel room. I was surprised when she demanded payment up front. I told her that I could see that this wasn't going to work out and we should end it right there. She said OK, and I walked her back to the corner where I had found her. Her friend [and mine as well] who was standing on the corner, and who I had sessioned with many times in the past, asked us why we had come back so soon. I told her that her friend demanded payment up front and I declined. At this point my friend "reamed this girl a new asshole" for doing that. In the end....I took my friend back to the room for a great session, and didn't pay up front. 8)

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I have never had a problem either way but i agree that paying after is ofcourse better.(allways a chance that paying before can backfire)Most of the chicas i have met have been pretty easy to deal with because i allways treat them with respect.You treat a chica right and the quality of the session usually will be great!


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I never pay the full amount upfront and it has served me well over the years. Many chicas will tell you that they have been cheated in the past and therefore need full payment before the deed. Guys I guarantee you that for every single instance of a guy cheating the chica, there are a thousand instances of the chica changing the deal or bolting out the door 30 minutes into a 1 hour visit, if you pay her upfront. Remember, the chicas will get away with whatever we let them.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:09 am 
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OK..let'ws play a game of "pretend". let's pretend we are all working chicas who have been phucked over by Gringos who refused to pay us AFTER we sucked and Phucked them for an hour or two.(trust me when I say that this has happened to a majority of the working chicas who have been in the business for a while) Let's pretend that this site is called "Costa Rica Gringos" and we have a chance to discuss these things amongst ourselves. What do we do? One of our membership suggests that we ALWAYS get paid first so that the client can't screw us out of our promised money. We know that the Gringos normally don't like that BUT a chica has to protect herself. We are smart enough to know that P4P is a two-way transaction.

Now I'm not suggesting that we should always pay up front. I also agree that it can very well be a sign of "beware trouble ahead" I am just saying that it isn't as black or white as some make it out to be. I have only paid upfront a couple of times and it worked out without a problem. One was a couple of weeks ago with a very attractive Tica. We were kissing and touching in the taxi,which told me we were going to have fun at my house.She NICELY asked for the money upfront because she didn't know me and didn't want any problems. I went with my gut and gave her the money. (after the half on the table wasn't going to satisfy her.)

I have also heard plenty of war stories from chicas that I have been with that give very good service,so I never say "never". Sometimes you just have to go with your gut instinct or you may send away the best lay of your life. If you were a hooker who had been screwed over...what would you do?


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:21 am 
If you pay 100% upfront, you are just asking for trouble. I don't care how hot she is. Just don't do.

I make my terms clear before we even get in the taxi. I pay 50% upfront as good faith. The balance on completion.

I also WRITE DOWN their start time. Just showing the watch at the beginning does not always work.

I have been negotiating for 2 hour sessions and giving in on the $100. I see it as a comparable deal to the MPs and they get what they want, the $100. It is a win/win. But you MUST write down the time and only pay half up front, or you are going to have an argument 70 minutes into the session.

Sometimes it works out to my favor. They want to quit after an hour of the bone. Once they realize that they are getting the bone for another hour, they want to throw in the towel. Fine sister, you have you half the money, I got my half of the time, you are free to leave at any time. Thank you for the $50 session.


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