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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:38 pm 
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KCcostarica,i'm pretty sure i know one of these girls and yes she is a very good person and one classy lady. The few times i was fortunate to have been with her i always treated extremely good(presents etc). I try and treat them all good but only 2 get small xtras.


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If a monger feels that prostitution is by definition a low and degrading profession, then isn't that monger adding to her degradation by employing her? I do NOT feel it is degrading by definition, though the drawbacks and hazards are obvious.

If I did think it was a disgusting profession, I would find some other means of sexual gratification. I don't buy stolen merchandise, because I consider theft immoral. I don't buy drugs for chicas because I have seen the harm drugs do and don't care to be an accessory.

I suggest that those who feel prostitution is a disgusting way to make a living do the moral thing, and stop encouraging them (by employing them).

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:34 am 
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If a monger feels that prostitution is by definition a low and degrading profession, then isn't that monger adding to her degradation by employing her? I do NOT feel it is degrading by definition, though the drawbacks and hazards are obvious.

If I did think it was a disgusting profession, I would find some other means of sexual gratification. I don't buy stolen merchandise, because I consider theft immoral. I don't buy drugs for chicas because I have seen the harm drugs do and don't care to be an accessory.

I suggest that those who feel prostitution is a disgusting way to make a living do the moral thing, and stop encouraging them (by employing them).


Totally doesn't make sense.

How about when the hooker herself finds her profession degrading yet she is still a hooker, should she find another career if she thinks her chosen profession is disgusting?

What do you think they mean when most of them say, "oh no, my family doesn't know my work." Do you think her work is a secret, because she is proud of her work? Do you think when she is outside of the Gulch and at family or social gatherings with old school mates, she readily admits that she is a hooker?

I have no problem with their profession, but I for sure know what society in general thinks. If that isn't in the back of your mind when you deal with these ladies, then you just aren't thinking. I think Thailand is about the only place in the world where society thinks nothing of it, but the rest of the world still has a problem with it.

In the Philippines, outside of P4P areas, it is still not proper to HUG in public! Imagine what they think about hookers. The girl who is getting the hug doesn't want onlookers to think she is a hooker or the hooker type (loose).

Repeat: I have no problem with their profession. They can Phuck the world and I'll still chat with them like I would anyone else.

If you can ignore, totally block it from you mind, what society thinks of her profession, HIGH 5 DUDE, you are amazing!

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Oh, and if you can't readily broadcast in all of your social circles that you Phuck hookers on a regular basis, then you must in some way find the profession derogatory or unacceptable. What are you hiding if you aren't telling everyone?


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I think what Bilko is getting at is:

If we (the mongers) find it degrading and hurtful to the girls then you should not be facilitating their degradtion by paying them.

To think it is degrading and still p[articipate is hypocritical. I did not create prostitution and believe it is a part of every society in the history of man. I do not look down on the girls and treat them as I would anybody else.

BTW, they can certainly tell whether or not you look down on them and you can bet it affects the level of service and response you get.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:50 pm 
Bktuna wrote:
I think what Bilko is getting at is:

If we (the mongers) find it degrading and hurtful to the girls then you should not be facilitating their degradtion by paying them.

To think it is degrading and still p[articipate is hypocritical. I did not create prostitution and believe it is a part of every society in the history of man. I do not look down on the girls and treat them as I would anybody else.


Would the majority of monger want their daughter hooking? Why not, because it is a degrading profession? Positions such as the above can be extended to "if you have a daughter and you wouldn't want her hooking, then it is hypocritical to Phuck someone else's daughter."

There are guys who won't monger - sure thing - for whatever reason. For us that do monger, I'm not sure any of us will find a valid reason or even a moral reason to stop.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:39 pm 
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Bilko wrote:
If I suggest that those who feel prostitution is a disgusting way to make a living do the moral thing, and stop encouraging them (by employing them).


Totally doesn't make sense.

How about when the hooker herself finds her profession degrading yet she is still a hooker, should she find another career if she thinks her chosen profession is disgusting?

It makes perfect sense. What does not make sense is your painting the rest of the world with your moral paintbrush. Would she rather being doing something else making the same money? Probably, but if she finds hooking "disgusting" then absolutely, she should find another profession. We don't need that attitude in the working ranks.

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What do you think they mean when most of them say, "oh no, my family doesn't know my work." Do you think her work is a secret, because she is proud of her work? Do you think when she is outside of the Gulch and at family or social gatherings with old school mates, she readily admits that she is a hooker?

In America, we do little sexually but we do it on the big screen. Europe and the rest of the world sees us as repressed and immature.

For the rest of the world, sex is something that is readily practiced...privately. They don't do their business in public. Why would they advertise to their family?

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Repeat: I have no problem with their profession. They can Phuck the world and I'll still chat with them like I would anyone else.

Yes you do and it is obvious to everyone but you. No matter how many times a phrase is repeated it does not hide the bias, i.e., "I have many friends who are _____."

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Oh, and if you can't readily broadcast in all of your social circles that you Phuck hookers on a regular basis, then you must in some way find the profession derogatory or unacceptable. What are you hiding if you aren't telling everyone?

Bunk. I don't hide what I do in CR but I am well aware of the attitude of uptight America. Not exposing myself to the narrow minds of middle USA does not mean that I find their profession derogatory or unacceptable.

Again, you painting the picture with your bias and assumptions and wonder why everyone does not see it your way...



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:27 pm 
Man, this thread is getting poisonous...

A GOOD salary for a non-working girl is in the 3-600 per month range.


The only way that this salary would work to support Ch*ldren is if she didn't have to pay childcare, and didn't have to pay rent.

The only way this is possible is if she owns her own house/apt, and has a friend/family member watch the K*D.

A good working girl can make several thousand a month. Now she can support her whole family, parents, husband, etc...


I do not think prostitution is a bad job. I just think that the cost of being a sex worker may outweigh the benefits...

now a bad pro would make just under 1k per month...

That's 4 jonhs a week @ 60 (including tip)... I believe that would be a do-able figure for even the most plain looking girl, if she "put her back into it" (pun intended).

I see it hard to find anything out there that pays that kind of $.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:34 pm 
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I do not think prostitution is a bad job. I just think that the cost of being a sex worker may outweigh the benefits...


Well put.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:31 pm 
QuickBlueFox wrote:
Man, this thread is getting poisonous...
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Some of the attitudes expressed in this thread make us all look bad. We are not in a position to moralistic judgements.

That said, I hope no one has taken my opinions personally. I mean no disrespect to anyone on this board.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:35 pm 
D2864 wrote:
QuickBlueFox wrote:
I do not think prostitution is a bad job. I just think that the cost of being a sex worker may outweigh the benefits...


Well put.


I will grant that this may be true in a case-by-case basis. However, this is not a judgment that lends itself to over generalizations. To do so implies a moralistic bias and pure hypocrisy in my humble opinion

None of us have ever lived in squalor and none of us are in a position to say that someone else is better off living in those kind of conditions. More importantly, none of us has to raise a Ch*ld living in squalor. Walk a mile in their shoes and then you have some legitimacy in these pronouncements.


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I have absolutely no problems ethically or morally with prostitution. They provide a service and it is legal just about everywhere but the states. By definition, dating involves some level of courtship. Courting a prostitute in my opinion is a waste of time. Most of the time, it ends up very badly. These women have found a way of disconnecting the emotional aspect of sex with the physical sex act. I don't know how easy it is for them to reverse that. After several years of mongering, I have grown bored with it. I don't want to phuck a girl, unless she equally wants to phuck me. Otherwise, I'd rather just wack off and save my money.

Okay - so lets so you are single and don't want a relationship. Why the heck not have a regular??? If you want to call her your amante, that is fine. The second you take it past pure pay for sex, problems usually begin. Hence, calling her your novia.

The thing I don't understand is the guys who live here that are dating hookers. There is sooooo much hot pu*sy in this country that is available. Its easy... you just need some game and some balls. Sure... you may deal with some rejection. Sure.... you may need to lower your standards. But, in the end you are better off.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:09 pm 
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By definition, dating involves some level of courtship. Courting a prostitute in my opinion is a waste of time.


This is true ONLY if you have expectations beyond enjoying the time that you actually spend with them.

If you enjoy the time you spend with them, and you don't have unrealistic expectations for the future OR expectations for monogamy, then how is it a waste of time?

My wingman is well over 50 and enjoys banging younger women. He is not looking for a future with them. He just wants to enjoy the moment. If the time together is quality time, then what does it matter?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:11 pm 
Kccostarica wrote:
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QuickBlueFox wrote:
I do not think prostitution is a bad job. I just think that the cost of being a sex worker may outweigh the benefits...


Well put.


I will grant that this may be true in a case-by-case basis. However, this is not a judgment that lends itself to over generalizations. To do so implies a moralistic bias and pure hypocrisy in my humble opinion

None of us have ever lived in squalor and none of us are in a position to say that someone else is better off living in those kind of conditions. More importantly, none of us has to raise a Ch*ld living in squalor. Walk a mile in their shoes and then you have some legitimacy in these pronouncements.


Note, I did say MAY

I know that if I were in their shoes I would be like pamela, phuking every rich gringo that came my way, but unlike her, I'd be socking it all away in an interest bearing CD...


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:29 pm 
Kccostarica wrote:
None of us have ever lived in squalor....


You seem to be so focused on living in squalor.... poor woman and her Ch*ldren are going to live in squalor if she doesn't become a hooker "seems" to be your baseline. I say "seems" since maybe I'm reading you wrong.

There is a lot of squalor in CR - honestly, I think you look on it a lot different than they look on it. They don't mind it as much as you think that they do, because their definition of squalor is not the same as your definition. For a lot of them, living without modern conveniences is all they know and all they've ever known. They are far more focused on family than plush carpet. Point in fact, I was just in the Philippines.... I visited 2 women (1 hooker, 1 not ever a hooker) that lived in horrible conditions, but they didn't apologize for the situation before me since it is all they know. The non-hooker lived partly on concrete and party on dirt (her entire family lived there). The kitchen was nearly all dirt. They didn't cook with gas or electricity, but charcoal. They are experts at 1 pot meals, because they don't have the means to cook sophicated multi-pot meals.


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