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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:35 pm 
Kccostarica wrote:
Married women at DR are common place.

There are several stories on this board on the subject. One recently about a guy who ran into the owner of his local grocery store working at a MP.

I am making no claims as to percentages. I have no idea. I said nothing about a survey.

I have given a lot of information to support my opinion. You provide only hypotheticals that are detached from reality to support your opinions. Lets others decide who knows what they are talking about and who doesn't.

I am still waiting for your budget.



Take the questions I asked, quote them and simply answer directly the questions.

I have no hypotheticals at all. You are basically saying that "ALL" single moms with no support are hookers, because there are no other alternatives. I'm saying that they can't "ALL" be hookers since some are too unattractive to be hookers. You can't tell me what the unattractive ones are doing as an alternative.

A few stories on here about married couples and you conclude: "Hell there are a lot of married couples that rely on extra money from hooking." Stories on here don't prove anything, but you made the claim and now, other than stories on CRT, you can't back it up.


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I think KC, D, and Pro should all sit down for a mediation on this matter...let's say Feb. 3rd at the SL :?: :idea: :D

Perhaps Irish Drifter or Mucho Gusto will be available to serve as mediator? 8)


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I think KC, D, and Pro should all sit down for a mediation on this matter...let's say Feb. 3rd at the SL :?: :idea: :D

Perhaps Irish Drifter or Mucho Gusto will be available to serve as mediator? 8)


Me too! :) Good choice of mediators too.


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Mia2Ewr wrote:
I think KC, D, and Pro should all sit down for a mediation on this matter...let's say Feb. 3rd at the SL :?: :idea: :D

Perhaps Irish Drifter or Mucho Gusto will be available to serve as mediator? 8)


Me too! :) Good choice of mediators too.

No problem. As long as we do it before the opening kick-off!!! I don't want to miss the Cowboys return the opening kick-off with a 90 yard run, all the way into the end zone for a touchdown. :lol: (Hey, I can dream, can't I ?!?!?) :wink:

Sorry. Back to the original topic... :oops:

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After your gay massage comment I am withdrawing my suggestion of you and now proposing either BK or ID. :twisted:


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:05 pm 
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I think KC, D, and Pro should all sit down for a mediation on this matter...let's say Feb. 3rd at the SL :?: :idea: :D

Perhaps Irish Drifter or Mucho Gusto will be available to serve as mediator? 8)


Hey, I am chill. I am just expressing a point of view and providing information. If someone can educated me, I am all for it.

Besides, I think we have settled it.

D and I just have different ideas as to what is a viable option for a single mother raising a Ch*ld. He feels that raising a Ch*ld in squalor is viable option for a single mother and I do not.

I don't think there is anything else to discuss on the subject.


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I hesitate to get into this pointless pissing contest but I will give one example.

I know a woman in Medellin in her late 20s. She has some education beyond high school but got laid off from her job. She lives with an aunt since she doesn't get along with her father.

She has never been married and has never had a Ch*ld.

Most non-skilled jobs in Medellin pay the minimum which is currently 400,000 pesos per month (about $200). A few months ago she itemized her monthy expenses for me. They included rent, food, health insurance, transporation, clothes, cell phone, internet, etc.) and came out to approximately $300 a month not including "personal items".

That only leaves a few alternatives and I sure ain't supporting her.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:37 pm 
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Okay pal, direct answers to your questions


Thank you.


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I guess that I'm also supposed to believe that "ALL" good looking women who have 2 or whatever amount of K*ds and no family/friend/husband/bf support are all hookers since there are no other viable alternatives in CR? No. "ALL" is always bullshit. Please, name one other profession that an uneducated girl with no skills can do that will earn her over $1000 per month. Just one.


Right "ALL" is total BS and that is what I was saying. I can't name one profession - never said there were any professions for the uneducated to earn over 1000 per month. Only thing I've been saying is what you finally said, they don't have to be hookers, however if they aren't hookers, they don't live so nicely.


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In your judgmental mind, however, starving in poverty and letting your K*ds go mostly hungry and practically naked is somehow better than hooking and providing well for them.


I'm not being judgmental. I have nothing against hookers at all. All I was saying is that others survive without hooking. As you pointed out, it isn't pretty, but it is possible.

For woman who have pride, a high self esteem no matter how poor they are, living in poverty is a better option for them than selling their ass. You seem to think that material wealth is better than self respect. Hooking is legal in CR, but it isn't still isn't something that women brag about to others. For the most part, when they do take part in hooking, they hide it from friends and family.

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If you think real poverty does not exist in Costa Rica I can arrange for a tour for your next visit. I don't think you really know what desperation looks like.


I've taken a ride off the beaten path and have seen the poverty. I've seen them sweeping and cleaning their homes which are built on a concrete slab and have very thin walls made of anything one can gather. This is how I know others survive though not so handsomely without hooking. CR is bigger than SJO and Jaco. Many areas have no P4P action and they are surviving so all I'm saying is that surviving is possible with hooking. I'm running counter to the "she must hook to survive" notion. She doesn't have to hook.


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For woman who have pride, a high self esteem no matter how poor they are, living in poverty is a better option for them than selling their ass.

That is a judgment. You have decided that it is more honorable to have your K*ds living in filth, going to bed hungry with no future rather than have Mom sell her ass.



That is NOT ***my*** judgment, but good try attempting to pin it on me.

That is their judgment. They judge themselves to be of greater value living in poverty than to sell their ass for material wealth.

Rice and beans and flour are cheap and are basic food stock that people throughout CA and SA survive on everyday. People pull together in CR so I doubt anyone is going to bed hungry or dirty (soap is also cheap). You are trying to paint an awful picture to justify hooking as an alternative. Like I said, CR is bigger than SJO and Jaco and people are making it in areas where no P4P exist so go figure. I guess there is just a lot of hungry and dirty K*ds with no future outside of SJO and Jaco. You know, the K*ds in SJO and Jaco have it good, their mom's can sell their ass to put steak on the table. Great life... "Hey Johnny, what does you mom do for you to have those brand new jeans and that amazing backpack?" LOL!

Your judgment is that for K*ds, it is better to have a hooker for a mom than a mom who values herself more than the value of her ass. I personally would rather live in poverty and to have to mom who has dignity and self worth than steak for dinner.


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They judge themselves to be of greater value living in poverty than to sell their ass for material wealth.

Your judgment is that for K*ds, it is better to have a hooker for a mom than a mom who values herself more than the value of her ass.

I personally would rather live in poverty and to have to mom who has dignity and self worth than steak for dinner.


Brother, it really does seem like you are imposing your own bias and judements in these statements. I am not trying to put you down, but your American puritanical value system is screaming through.

Material Wealth? Come on, there are a few putas that live with material wealth, but the vast majority, especially the MP girls with K*ds just scrape by.

The notion that a woman that hooks on the side is devaluing herself is totally puritanical and reflective of your personal values.

Your final statement about the steak dinner pretty much says it all about your biases.

We are all entitled to our own opinion and our own values. I do not mean to disrespect yours. But lets at least be honest about it when we imposing our own biases into the discussion.

Peace, out.


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REPEAT:[/b] So what about the women who can't sell their ass, what about the women who just won't sell their ass? Tell me in all your wise wisdom how they are doing it without selling their ass. You don't know because you only hear the same pathetic sob story over and over again in the Gulch and now you are a believer.


This entire thread is outside my area of competence. I can only guess that poor women in Costa Rica, who do not sell tail, survive in the same manner than poor women in other countries surive without selling tail. They take second and third jobs, get money from friends and family, have side business that do not involve selling tail, and the like. Let me be the first to admit that I simply do not know, because I cannot know.


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