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Bilko is right. Those that say otherwise are not dealing with reality, just their own poorly informed opinions.

I don't think you will find any guys that actually live in Costa Rica that know these women in a their real world environment say otherwise.

I would be the first one to call bullshit I were able to see a viable alternative for these women. I just don't see where it exists. The numbers just don't add up and there is no getting around it.

I have challenged these guys to come up with a budget as to how you support a Ch*ld on your own on a $300 to $500 a month salary. These guys can pontificate all they want with their self-rightous non-sense, but reality is that it is just not possible.

Rents are more than the average salary that these women can realisticly earn on their own. That is just reality. Those that think otherwise just don't know what they are talking about.

Poor woman with 1 or 2 or 3 K*ds and no other options in life except to be a hooker? This is what you believe?

Hmmmm, ever think about the chicas who are in the same situation as the hookers, but aren't able to hook because they are fat and/or just plain unattractive? Or, is it only hookers who end up with 2 or 3 or whatever amount of K*ds with no one to support them? Is this what I'm hearing?

So what does a woman who is in the same situation and who can't be a hooker do? Why can't the hooker do the same?

I guess that I'm also supposed to believe that "ALL" good looking women who have 2 or whatever amount of K*ds and no family/friend/husband/bf support are all hookers since there are no other viable alternatives in CR?

After a hooker gets older and can't hook anymore, what does she do? Does anyone think that there aren't any old ex hookers who can't find a john and who still has 3 K*ds and no support yet somehow, she is living. I mean, she didn't just suddenly die because she can't hook, did she? Whatever she does after her hooking career, why couldn't she have been doing it during her hooking career?

Hit the road outside of the Gulch and you'll find lots of women who are in the same situation as your friendly hookers yet are not hooking.... ask them what they are doing. Get the other side of the story.


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Another funny thing I'm recognizing on this board is that it seems the Ticas who are divorced or their BF left them is the good guy so to speak while the Tico ex is the bad guy. But this scenario runs counter to US divorces where, on this board, the bad guy is always the gringa.

Ticos are usually blamed for being alcoholics, drug addicts, drug pushers or deadbeat fathers on this board. I'd surely like to hear the Ticos' side of the story after a hooker told me how horrible her ex was to her. Listen to a Ticos' story and I bet many will sound like Chi_trekker telling us about his EX yet most buy the Ticas' story hook, line and sinker. Those horrible low life Tico assholes is what they want us to think so we'll feel sorry for them, take them to our room, and afterwards give them an extra 25 dollars because life just isn't fair to her. She was dealt a hand she didn't deserve.

I am still waiting for one of you guys to explain to me how a single mom is supposed to make it on her own on a $300 to $500 a month income.

For the life of me, I cannot add up the numbers, so you tell me!

If you are so wise in your deductive reasoning then please explain this to me. Explain it to all of us and I will never, ever stand up and defend these women ever again.

Otherwise button it up man, because you don't know what you are talking about.

I throw it back to you - If you are so wise explain how others are doing it. As I said, it is impossible that all women who are in the same situation as a hooker are selling their ass.

REPEAT: So what about the women who can't sell their ass, what about the women who just won't sell their ass? Tell me in all your wise wisdom how they are doing it without selling their ass. You don't know because you only hear the same pathetic sob story over and over again in the Gulch and now you are a believer.

HONESTLY: I have no idea how they do it, but they have to be doing it, because not all in the same situation are selling their ass. If all were selling their ass, SJ would be overrun with hookers. Hookers can not be the only ones in a tough situation in CR - no way.

Are you honestly thinking that "EVERY" woman in CR who is single and has a few K*ds are hookers? It sounds like this is what you are thinking. If you aren't thinking this, then you have to admit that there are women in the same situation as some hookers who aren't selling ass. If just one can do it without selling ass, the rest can and do follow the same basis formula whatever that may be.


If you can't tell me then button it up man, because you don't know what you are talking about.

Gotta jump in and add my two cents, having been one of the 'unfortunate souls' who has fallen for a DR girl.
The way other girls make it is to live with a LOT of other people who are also in the same situation. There will be the girl with her K*ds, a sister with K*ds, mom, some of her friends (also with K*ds in tow), maybe some tico boyfriends here and there and possibly a father. Mom works, both her and her sister work, MAYBE boyfriends or dad. Together, they can pull together maybe $1000 a month.
They live in the shabby parts of town usually in a house that is owned by someone in the family (and has been for 50 years). They eat little more than rice, beans and fruit. The K*ds have old clothes, they walk to school if they go and there is no real future for them.
Yes, they can 'make it' without hooking. Can they give their K*ds a better life without it?? NO
The other half of the story is what I call the "addiction factor". Say a girl hooks once or twice for a little extra. Well, one of those nights she hits $100 then on another, runs into Pacifica and hits the jackpot!
After she recovers, she realizes she had fun, made a ton of money and can now sit around the next two weeks doing nothing.
It's like if I were to hit a $500 jackpot on slots for two or three nights in a row. The 'big score' is addictive not to mention getting to stay in a nice hotel (perhaps getting to use a jacuzi), unlimited drinks, a nice attentive gentleman and the MONEY.
Does all this change them?? Sure it does. It makes it very difficult to retun to a 'normal' Tica life. They see what the money does for family and the fun they have doing it and a 'new' working girl is born. She will get more and more jaded with time as she hears more and more BS from gringos.
You gotta keep in mind WE are the problem. We make it easy for them, give them a good time, acting like gentlemen and dishing out the money and fun times. But in the end, almost all LEAVE with nothing more than a kiss on the cheak.
How many of us can really say we wouldn't do the same in their shoes? I'm pretty sure if I could get women to pay me for sex, take me to exotic locals, feed me great food and get me drunk all the time...I'd be right there in the same boat.
And for the guys that try to apply their 'gringo ethics' to the situation, you gotta realize it just won't work. Live here a while, live the Tico life, ride the bus, take the cold showers, eat the bland food they cook and then come back and I'll be willing to listen.
Look at the posts...the guys who know the life they lead and have spent a lot of time here say one thing. The weekend monger says another. Enough said.

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The only thing that matters is happiness in all it forms...

OKAY, I'll play. I'll answer your question then you answer mine. Ready to accept the challenge?

The answer is simple. The VAST, VAST majority of single women (both with and without K*ds) live with their families. This is how it has always been in Costa Rica. This is traditional part of their society.

So now Mr Smarty Pants, what happens to those women that don't have the support of their families?????

Show me the budget!!!!

I honestly don't mean any disrespect by saying this, but to you guys that are beating this drum, you just don't know what you are talking about.

Bilko and Prostoner are both getting at the reality here. First off there is no "typical" CR Hooker just like there are many differences amongst us.
I do agree with Bilko that the average working girl is not making nearly the cash we think. Some of it is the competition and some do only enough to meet a basic standard fo living. I know one girl who could make a lot more but basically comes in each night until she has $200 for the week. This pays her bills and supports two K*ds a mom and one younger sister. They live in an ok area but moved from a downright slum after she started. I have met nice, respectful honest girls and downright drugged out thieves and all points in between.

Can a hooker quit?
Yes some can

Can a hooker fall in love with a Gringo and be sincere?
Yes some can

Are there any happy relationships like this?
Yes I personally know of 5 all of whom live here and have K*ds together

Are the odds long?
Yes for many many reasons (age, culture, language, socio-economic) beyond just the profession

My last thought on this subject is do what makes you happy. This combined with being careful with your heart and wallet and heeding good advice here should work for most of us. If PAC55 and Prostoner are at opposite ends on their needs but are both happy, I am thrilled for my friends. I vacillate between the two poles and apparently will always crave the change from one to the other.

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I am never going home

You aren't really playing, again. Everyone knows that the vast majority rely on family. The subject has always been about those that have no support - go back and reread.

I keep saying that if a hooker exists who has no support there has to be non-hookers who have no support also (and are single moms). Hookers can't be the only ones finding themselves in a position of no support with K*ds in toe.

I find myself about to rewrite my above posts, but what is the use, you want to see hookers in a special light - the only humans existing who ends up with no support structure around them. In order words, you see all single moms who have no support structure as having to be hookers. Some can't be hookers - too unattractive, too fat or just won't do it even if striving.

Stop generalizing and answer the direct questions I've ask if you really know what you are talking about.

All I'm hearing from you is the same repeated sob story that gets reproduced over and over again from the Del Rey Debs. You've bought it hook, line and sinker.

Support from the family is absolutely vital for single moms, period, end of story. If she lacks the traditional support of the family unit there are simply zero options for her.

Honestly, I think that is exactly why there are so many hookers in Costa Rica. Many, many are part timers. Hell there are a lot of married couples that rely on extra money from hooking because they cannot make in on two incomes. If married couples rely on the extra money what is a single parent supposed to do? Many live with their families and hook on the side.

You can throw all the hypotheticals out there that you want, but there is just no way to can come to any sort of possible way that a single mom can support a household on $300 a month by herself.

$300 is $300. There is no magical way to stretch it into more money.

I am not going to argue with you on this subject any more. I have challenged you to come up with a budget and you throw out "must be" statements that are completely detached to reality.

I'll let others decide for themselves and I throw out the same challenge to those that cling to this belief. Show me a budget. If you are so smart and know so much, just show me how to make it on $300 to $500 a month.

($500 is a HIGH paid job by the way. Andrea at ZB made $200 a month in her job as a cashie before she started at ZB)

Independent survey by who, you? "A LOT?????" How many? What percentage of married couples? What do you have to support your claim? Nothing!

Stop generalizing and answer the direct questions I've ask if you really know what you are talking about. Still avoiding the direct questions with more BS like the above.

Married women at DR are common place.

There are several stories on this board on the subject. One recently about a guy who ran into the owner of his local grocery store working at a MP.

I am making no claims as to percentages. I have no idea. I said nothing about a survey.

I have given a lot of information to support my opinion. You provide only hypotheticals that are detached from reality to support your opinions. Lets others decide who knows what they are talking about and who doesn't.

I am still waiting for your budget.

No they have not. Not even close.