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 Post subject: Dating Putas
PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:22 pm 
My wingman is dating two former ZB girls. He seems to be phasing one out and bringing the other more online. Both have been nice girl friends from what I can tell. He is not shelling out money to be with them (he pays for cab fare, that is it). They spend the night, the go out to dinner, they go on trips, he does not spoil them, they seem to be having a great time together. Normal stuff.

He is not rushing to get deeply involved, but I can tell ALL of you that both of these are really nice girls, that are looking for alternatives for supporting their Ch*ldren and have been as nice of girl friends that a guy could want.

Both these women saved their money and are trying to make a go of it in the civilian world. I am not sure they are going to make it without hooking a little on the side. It is tough for them and they really don't have many alternatives.

Will these be long-term relationships? I doubt it, but I would not rule it out either. The bottom line is these are good gals trying to make their way. The guys on this board that make blanket judgments of these women are jackasses in my humble opinion. Comments like "just get a job and survive" are ridicules. In one case the girl’s family found out about what she was doing and she is doing her best to get back into their good graces. It is very difficult for her and she is trying her best to make. Personally, I think it is just a matter of time before she is on her back again.

I really do feel sorry her. I admire her for being such a good girl friend to my buddy and not trying to pump him for money. Eventually, when her savings runs out, I am sure she will ask him. In the mean time, she is doing her best to get her life right. I am very impressed with her.


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Yeah....I can relate to what you're saying. It's OK to keep chicas as friends and spend time with them, but YOU MUST keep it in its proper perspective......and proceed with extreme caution. Otherwise, you could end up like Rolltide. :(


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:35 pm 
My brother has been married 5 times and had countless civilian girlfriends. He is not the needy sort. He is just one of those type of guys that knows how to make women feel real comfortable and they gravitate toward him. When the enviable bullshit starts, he just moves on to the next one, no hard feelings, no remorse, no looking back.

I would say there is almost NO chance of him ending up like rolltide, he does not roll like that.


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I'm just curious. When you say
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Comments like "just get a job and survive" are ridicules.
, is that to say if a girl wants to be out of the business she cannot be? If that were the case, how can anyone, especially a man supporting a family "survive"? I believe most girls work in the business because they make a lot more money(generally) in less time than they would otherwise. For doing it, they generally have a higher standard of living. To put it another way, I would imagine the top 50% of puta earners in CR make a lot more money than most other single income households.

I'm not at all saying whatever these girls are doing to not take advantage and to stay away from the business and its lure of easy dollars is not impressive, just that girls do it for the money. And if they don't want to do it for the money they have to accept an income similar so many other "honest" girls do to make a living.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:44 pm 
Tico Fan

Every single word you say may be true.

But that does not mean that these woman have viable alternatives.

The situations described in both points of view are not mutually exclusive.


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TicoFan. Consider this. A single working girl with 3 K*ds likely has a lot more expenses than a single income family. She has to pay for babysitters, taxi fare to and from work (and a lot of times the girls may not find any work on any given night), they have to buy sexy clothes and perfume, condoms, makeup, etc...

Now, a typical single income family where the husband supports them, there is no need for any of that.

In my experience, most of the girls do NOT have higher than average lifestyles. They may have a 1 or 2 bedroom apartment with 3 K*ds. Many of the girls do not work every day as well (and probably a good thing too).

High paying jobs in costa rica for women are very rare. You can point to DR bartenders all you like, but the fact is, there's only a few of such jobs available, and the vast majority of women have to find other ways to support themselves and their K*ds.

Outside of the gulch, it's very rare to see female bartenders. Waitresses are much more common, but unless it's a very touristy area, they're not likely to make a lot of money doing that.

Of course all this is not to say there aren't plenty of working girls who spend the money they earn flagrantly, don't save, etc.. but I think it's not as common as you might think.


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Tico Fan

Every single word you say may be true.

But that does not mean that these woman have viable alternatives.

The situations described in both points of view are not mutually exclusive.


You've got to remember, women in general, are lazy. the average wage for a MALE costa rican is less than $10 a day and mads make about $200 per month. when you take that into account, and think they could work 10 hours a day every day for $200 or they could go work at the del rey 2 days a week for a few hours a day hanging out and drinking and make 8 times what they can working all month.

another way to look at it is they could do 1 hours of actual "work" per week and make the same wages.

if you could go to a bar and hang out with you friends and Phuck a couple of girls a night every day and make 10-20 times your current pay(if you work full time at it), what would you prefer?


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TicoFan. Consider this. A single working girl with 3 K*ds likely has a lot more expenses than a single income family. She has to pay for babysitters, taxi fare to and from work (and a lot of times the girls may not find any work on any given night), they have to buy sexy clothes and perfume, condoms, makeup, etc...

Now, a typical single income family where the husband supports them, there is no need for any of that.


But you're comparing apples and oranges - How about a single "regular" tica with 3 K*ds ? Or are there NONE of those ???

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In my experience, most of the girls do NOT have higher than average lifestyles. They may have a 1 or 2 bedroom apartment with 3 K*ds. Many of the girls do not work every day as well (and probably a good thing too).


:? :? :? Huh ???

"Most of the girls" You mean hookers, right ? How can they NOT have a higher than average lifestyle if they're making at least 10 times what a "regular" job would pay ?

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We are all people first.

As a Whore Monger, I am more than one half of the derogatory term, and the larger half. If I wouldn't pay them, they wouldn't f*ck me. I think that makes me the worse of the two. Isn't it worse for a young lady to get shit faced and f*ck for nothing? The CR ladies of the evening are just playing the cards that have been handed to them, and how they have been taught the game.

Before I throw stones I need to take a good look in the mirror. I am no better, nor worse, than anyone. When I write/say derogatory things about others, it is just my ego wanting me to feel "more than" at a moment that it is feeling "less than".

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 Post subject: Re: Dating Putas
PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:11 pm 
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Kccostarica wrote:
My wingman is dating two former ZB girls. He seems to be phasing one out and bringing the other more online. Both have been nice girl friends from what I can tell. He is not shelling out money to be with them (he pays for cab fare, that is it). They spend the night, the go out to dinner, they go on trips, he does not spoil them, they seem to be having a great time together. Normal stuff.


I only suggest that Brother proceed with caution. I, for one, will not pass judgment on what others do when their behaviors do not affect me directly or indirectly. Proceed with caution.


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 Post subject: Re: Dating Putas
PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:29 pm 
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I only suggest that Brother proceed with caution. I, for one, will not pass judgment on what others do when their behaviors do not affect me directly or indirectly. Proceed with caution.


Any time you are dealing with any woman, you better be on your toes. They are all capable of burning you.

I am not the least worried about him. He has been through the love wars, he knows how to play as well as any man I know.

One thing I have learned and it is something he knows as well, you got to know when to just walk away. It is when you try to hold on too long that you get burned. When things start going bad, you just got to move on. Once the arguing starts, once the bullshit starts, there is no turning back to the way things were before.

Rolltide is a perfect example. It sounds like he had a good thing for a long time. He just held on too long after it should have been clear it was not going to work out. He is still hanging on. The longer you hang on after it starts going wrong, the worse things get.

My brother has been doing that long before he arrived in the gulch. I am not worried about him in the least.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:04 pm 
Ultimately, there is really only one difference in dating a puta as opposed to any other woman. You have to go into it with the understanding that they will sell their ass to make a buck (especially if you are not subsidizing them. Even if you are subsidizing them, they will still sell their ass if they feel the need.

If you have a problem with that, then dating putas is not for you.

If all you care about is the quality of the time that you are actually with them, then what the hell? Who cares? It is when you expect them to be something that they are not that you get burned.

If you are an older guy and you like banging younger women, it is not such a bad trade off if you have the emotional make up to deal with that reality.


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TicoFan. Consider this. A single working girl with 3 K*ds likely has a lot more expenses than a single income family. She has to pay for babysitters, taxi fare to and from work (and a lot of times the girls may not find any work on any given night), they have to buy sexy clothes and perfume, condoms, makeup, etc...

Now, a typical single income family where the husband supports them, there is no need for any of that.


But you're comparing apples and oranges - How about a single "regular" tica with 3 K*ds ? Or are there NONE of those ???

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In my experience, most of the girls do NOT have higher than average lifestyles. They may have a 1 or 2 bedroom apartment with 3 K*ds. Many of the girls do not work every day as well (and probably a good thing too).


:? :? :? Huh ???

"Most of the girls" You mean hookers, right ? How can they NOT have a higher than average lifestyle if they're making at least 10 times what a "regular" job would pay ?


Sorry for quoting all of this, but I HAD NO ALTERNATIVE! (joke).

Seriously though, I have lived in San Jose for 3 years and have consorted (and fraternized) with many prostitutes. I have known (distantly) successful ones, and I have known many who barely scrape by. 10x average non-hooker income would be $2000 a month. Perhaps there are superstars who make 10k or more a month. But as far as even an average Del Rey girl making $2k a month, I just don't see it. The place is usually packed with girls and I would estimate that 70% are 7s and below. The girls I know well are in this group and are lucky to get 2 or 3 customers a week, for an average of about 40 dollars a pop. I have been to their houses. I know how they live. I'm talking about my friends, not the superstars. One in particular worked for a while as a part time receptionist for a dentist, but lost her job when he moved back to Mexico. She has 4 offspring and no help from the sperm donors, aka fathers. Does she have other options than prostitution? Yes. She could work as a store clerk for 200 a month, spend half of that on babysitters and no time with her Ch*ldren. Is that a better option? I think it's up to her to decide, not me.

There are certainly non-hookers making it in San Jose. I know some who get free babysitting from grandma or can ask a sister with a husband who actually has a job for a little money every month. Some get minimal Ch*ld support. Some have boyfriends who help out or even, gasp, husbands with jobs. Or husbands who sell drugs or steal.

If you think that a silicone enhanced Colombiana represents the average 'hooker' I have to disagree. To assume that the 7000 (or whatever the number is) sex workers in San Jose average $2k a month just isn't reality. Pointing at Paul McCartney and saying all bass players are rich just proves you don't know many bass players.

To take a more typical example I know personally, she is a 35ish flaca who is a great performer and decent, if not great looking. She supports her mother, 2 Ch*ldren and two sisters, none of whom know (or at least acknowledge) what she does for a living. She probably makes $400 a month on average but there are months when she can't pay her phone bill. She spends very little on 'outfits' and the like. She's been married three times, widowed once and divorced twice. She's trying to get her sister an education so she can get a decent job. Call her anything you like, but in my book she's a hard working, caring and honest person doing whatever it takes to make the most of her lot in life.

All hookers aren't so admirable. But I don't buy into the idea that all hookers have better alternatives. Anyone who takes a realistic look at the girls inside the Del Rey can see that half of the girls won't make any money at all on a given night, and some of those probably won't average as much as one every three nights or more. The girls in Colombiana corner are not the rule, they are the exception.

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