Crookedcr wrote:
CRTers are quick to state that a relationship with a hooker (or former hooker) has such low odds of success that one might consider the probability of a decent relationship less than negligible.
I personally have not looked at hookers as potential girlfriends so I don’t have the perspective to argue that one way or the other, but what I don’t understand is that so many MONGERS will sit around and predict the failure of a relationship with a hooker as doomed from the start……you claim that ½ of the couple formerly hooking is a recipe for disaster but then you want to look at every other aspect of the relationship as if it should follow normal rules when in reality I would say that the odds of a chica having a long-term satisfying relationship of any depth with a MONGER are also so slim as to be negligible.
I have no reason to disrespect or criticize Prostoner but I do have to wonder if he has looked at this situation from the chica’s perspective…..Maybe she got caught up in the emotion of having life-long financial security from a nice guy but as time wore on she began to question his commitment – after all this is a guy who used to Phuck girls for money in CR because he wasn’t satisfied at home. He has gone to great lengths for new pu*sy before, what will he do when she hits 40??. And odds are he is quite a bit older than she is. And I’m going out on a limb here but did he swear off mongering for the rest of his life to be with this girl? Did he abandon his CRT membership and lose interest in keeping up with the latest on the chica scene in CR? In short, did he come to consider himelf a non-monger or simply a monger on hold?
In a recent thread (and maybe this one; I don’t recall) someone made the good observation that when putas reach 30-something they don’t just evaporate. Maybe Prostoners novia started to look at her future after she became secure in her present for the first time in her life. Maybe she started to wonder if he’d trade her in for a newer model once she started to show her age….maybe the whole situation confirmed in her head what she already thought of herself – that her best asset is her pu*sy. Maybe she had the need to hook once in awhile to keep that identity, to feel her independence.
In another recent post there was a story told about a therapist who counsels putas who says that they are all messed up chicas in the head…maybe this is true but to say that ALL putas are phucked up in the head because all of those who are seeking counseling are phucked up in the head is a lot like saying that every chica who shows up to the hospital emergency room is either sick or injured so all chicas are sick or injured. I’m not at all surprised that every chica puta who seeks counseling is phucked up in the head.
Personally I think that all of the generalizing that takes place on this novia topic is detrimental to figuring out the real issues….1. Most relationships are doomed to failure whether in CR or the USA. 2. Any long distance relationship or a relationship where one or both reocate to another country with a completely different culture is going to be hard. 3. Any relationship with a partner with low self-esteem will have its trials. I think we can all agree that many of these girls have low self-esteem. 4. A relationship where there is a significant age/state of life difference, combined with a big disparity in maturity is likely to fail…not to mention difference in overall wisdom and intelligence and motivation. I am assuming here (and I think safely) that most men who travel to CR are of above average intelligence, more successful than average, and more worldly than the norm…..and probably most Del Rey chicas are on the opposite end of the spectrum for those traits.
So why does it always come back around to the chica being the problem, rather than the monger?
On the one had you guys talk about gringas like the plague upon the earth and the chicas like god’s gift to the horny male…but then you turn on the chica if you can’t get along with her either. So girls in the USA are selfish, immature, bitchy, disloyal, demanding, and lazy and they will MILK as much from you as they can…..and on the other hand, the girls in CR are also selfish, immature, bitchy, disloyal, demanding and lazy and they will CON/STEAL as much from you as they can. The only real difference here is that lies and theft in CR are more culturally normal than in the US…and in the US we men have gotten pretty good about giving the gringas what they want most of the time.
I think that the very nature of us mongers is that we like variety and most of us want a series of chicas who will keep up the variety and suck our dicks when we want, clean our house, and shower us with sweetness and gratitude until we get tired of them and then we want them to slink away into the shadows gracefully so their younger sisters and step up with their firm little bodies to make us happy again.
I find it monumentally ironic and hypocritical for any monger to evaluate any chica for a long-term relationship and decide that her former hooker status is somehow more relevant that his mongering.
Face it, for the most part, neither WE nor THEY make likely good relationship partners.
My heart goes out to Prostoner and any fellow who sustains a broken heart over any girl but to take a situation as phucked up and challenged as a puta-monger union and try to make sense of it then blame its failure on “once a hooker always a hooker†is lacking a depth of analysis and asking the chica to shoulder all of the blame.
I for one really appreciate Berk’s post “Your novia is a hooker, wake up and smell the coffee.†I think there needs to be an equal and opposite position. “Your novio is a monger, wake up and smell the coffee.â€
On balance an excellent post. However, I must take exception that both mongers and hookers are equally bad bets for a long-term relationship.
On a South Florida board this same discussion comes up every 3 or 4 months or so and inevitably the same guys come out and say "What's wrong with a working girl ? Is she not human like everybody else ?"
Well, yes, of course she's HUMAN, but,,,,,,,,,
And maybe, given the ratio of MARRIED GUYS to single guys on THIS board, your statement is a LITTLE close to the truth. It would seem that Americanos traveling to C.R. as often as some of us do would HAVE to be single, no ? But in Florida I'm betting the majority of guys on the baord are married.
Most of us guys are sport-fucking what, 1 or 2 girls a day for a 4-14 days vacation ? And then what ? We go home and everything's back to "normal" (whatever THAT is

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Most of the married guys typically Phuck these girls for VARIETY. They are different from the guys' wives and/or significant others. Females, for the most part, aren't *as* interested in variety - they Phuck for "love" !!!
However,
these girls are phucking dozens of guys a week/month/year/whatever. Add to that that typically, females being more emotional creatures than men are, all this phucking for cash HAS to Phuck up their heads far more than it does ours.
A "monger" finds a lady he connects with, falls in love, and wants to be with only her. She finds him and what ? She misses all the cash that he can't supply. She misses all the extras she can buy for herself because he won't give her the cash for something so superfluous. How many of these relationships fail because of the GUY ? And how many fail because the girl can't sustain a "normal" 1-on-1 relationship (And yes, I DO realize we're only hearing one side of the story)
So while you say "Face it, for the most part, neither WE nor THEY make likely good relationship partners" and THAT I would agree with, when you say the monger and hooker status is "equal", THAT I cannot agree with.
Hookers are "damaged goods" whether it's legal or not. Mongers, including those "looking for love in all the wrong places"

, while perhaps a bit damaged themselves are far more likely to be able to get into and maintain a "real" relationship (unless of course they're one of those that believe "Every woman out there is a gold-digging, lyin, cheatin' whore"
