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After reading about the developments in the Astro-Cristal saga, I got to thinking. We have already raked Astro over the coals for his part in it (some of us more than others ), but what about Cristal's actions? My question to all of you is what does it take (from an emotional standpoint) to be a successful DR hooker? I haven't thought this through all the way so maybe some of you can share your ideas.

Having sex with men for money has to take an emotional toll on the ill-prepared. IMHO, Cristal does not seem to have what it takes to survive in this profession. Maybe that is to her credit or maybe it isn't. It depends on your viewpoint.

What sort of girl goes into this line of work to begin with? Is it all about economic desperation? If so why do some women become hookers while others don't? Is it the pressure of having a Ch*ld(ren) out of wedlock and not being able to work a regular job with long hours due to childcare demands? Or is it due to a more casual attitude about the practice of sex? Is it due to a more fragile ego and self-image (perhaps due to earlier sexual abuse as a Ch*ld)? Or do some enter the profession with the attitude that it is the man who is weak and their sexual attractiveness is a resource for them to exploit to their advantage? Whatever the reason, how does that impact their later reactions to working this trade if at all? If they are already somehow fragile emotionally, does the casual sex and too often rude treatment with fat old guys for money further weaken their self-esteem or does the fawning and adulation they receive in some preverse way actually help sustain them emotionally as well as financially?

Is it better to come in to this type of work with a sort of emotional insulation around you? Or to at least develop one? This seems to be the case with many of the girls. To us they may seem cold and calculating, but to them it is all just a business and they are out to make every colone they can. What does that do their outlook in general? Do they come to regard all men as just objects they can manipulate to extract the dollars they need? Do they ever overcome this attitude or does it spoil them for relationships with any man even after they leave the profession? In my experience it is often the most attractive ones that seem to fall into this category - the "cien" girls - because they don't have to offer the GFFE in order to attract the big spenders.

Then there is a second type that offer what appears to be a GFE (and for my purposes satisfies my desire for a GFFE) but for whom it is completely an act. It takes truly great acting to pull this off effectively. But then again many of these girls have been honing their act for years and over countless dates.

Then there are still other girls who are much more open emotionally. They walk the tightrope by allowing at least some emotional attachment to their regular clients. The pull off their "act" by adding a bit of reality. But it is nearly always all still just a dream for both parties. Their success in the biz is tied to their ability to pull it all off without becoming overly involved and remembering why they are there. This can be very dangerous for their emotional health. Maybe they sometimes dream of really finding a kind and wealthy Gringo to rescue them from their world, but their hopes are usually dashed sooner rather than later. Such was the case with Cristal. As this happens time after time, what further damage to their psyche does this cause?

IMHO, unless they build a strong emotional barrier, I think it is a rare girl that can play the GFE without at least PARTIALLY becoming emotionally involved - basically falling for their own act - at least not every time. Just as we go for the sex but sometimes end up feeling more. I think it is even harder for women to seperate sex from the emotional element. I'm guessing maybe sometimes it is a matter of cognitive disonance - having sex with someone you don't like or care about or just for the money would be bad, so they convince themselves that they must really like them at least a little bit. I don't know. Maybe I'm way off.

I don't know. I'm just thinking out loud here. What are y'all's thoughts?

Let's face it, no one ever says, "When I grow up, I'm gonna be a hooker". As a whoremonger, I obviously dont need to discuss the morality of there choice or whether they could have opted for another route. Some of them get used to the lifestyle and love it. Others hates it but feel that they dont have any other choice or maybe they become desensitize to it after awhile.

In the end, it's a job and if you want to be succesful at whatever career you choose to do, you have to work at it. The new girls either learn how to ply there trade succesfully at the DR or they end up at the Molino Rojo where they get guaranteed money just for showing up. Not a lot of money but guaranteed.

All of the girls that become good at what they do have probably all been hurt by a gringo who got there hopes up with dreams of getting married to them and promising them the moon while it was just pillow talk for a cheaper lay. Now, most of the pros know better so they give right back to the gringos by miling them. No need to find out what came first, the chicken or the egg in that game.


All will say this, a girl has to have some attraction for you to give you the GFE treatment if not, then it's probably cause you've been lighting your cigars with 100 dollar bills

I dunno

Those are all excellent answers Easy, but I was thinking more from a psychoanalytic viewpoint. Not what they need to do or not do or how to conduct themselves to be successful financially at what they do, but what it takes to survive the emotional impact that their profession presents.

Cristal was fairly successful at gaining a certain degree of financial support from at least one of her customers at least in the short term, but she was not very successful at dealing with it emotionally Could she succeed as you laid it out in the long run? I don't know. But a better question in my mind is what impact will the profession have on her emotionally longer term. Will she learn how to better handle the relationships she develops? Or will she become even more hardened, jealous or cynical? I'm not sure about that either. But she's not out to a particualrly good start and I'm not too optomistic.

I had an opportunity to get to know Cristal and about 5 of her closest hooker friends. I spent time in their apartments, they made me lunch, I took them to dinner, and sat with them for a long time at the BM watching the action. I think the successful ones have an amazing ability to compartmentalize. Just like Bill Clinton could get a hummer in the white house, and be on the phone with Russia at the same time. They don't think of sex like we do. It is no big deal to them. It is just a way to make money. I doubt if most of them really get off, but they know to moan at the right moment to make you think they did.

I agree with you that it takes a certain kind of mental attitude to succeed as a Del Rey girl. The best girls have a great personality and seem to enjoy making small talk. They need money, but can't sound too desperate. After awhile, it all becomes routine to them. Sex is no longer a big deal. They know when to fake it, and when to act impressed.

I also think the successful girls establish a circle of friends...and they stick together like glue. These friends of Cristals adored her, and would do ANYTHING for her. And if anybody messed with her, they stuck together.

I do think you have to have a great deal of self confidence to succeed there. You have to be really strong mentally and emotionally. Cristal lost it that night with me...but on most occasions she was cool, collected, and never too high or down. Cristal had a tremendous amount of self confidence.

I do think Cristal will succeed there if she stays....but I hope she goes home. In time, the Del Rey will ruin most chicas. Not all...but most will change for the worse. They will eventually look negatively upon most men and sex in general. It is not a healthy environment for an 18-19 year old girl with hot looks. As much as I love to Phuck em...it fucks em up pretty fast. Cristal has changed a lot since I first met her...and not for the best. But it happens to all of them, unfortunately.

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I know I'm leaving myself opene by saying this but I am a simple person and I look at things in their most basic form. I do not like to over complicated things - keep it simple. I must say you guys are just way over thinking all of this. You are men all with money (in varying amounts) and all with desire (in varying amounts). They are young women with desirable (in varying amounts) bodies. You desire the body that she has she desires the money you have. The BM provides a convenient venue. That's all there is to it.

Some of the ladies like to have a boyfriend they can parade around and uses a status symbol. Some of you like to have a lady you can parade around and uses as a status symbol. Astroglide and his girl is an example. Dapanz 1 and his girl is another example. To me these are not complicated relationships they are just people who need someone around and found each other-no more complicated than that.
Lee

Lee & Astro,
You guys represent to the two ends of the extreme LAL-GFE dichotomy that Astro has proposed. I think I fall somewhere in the middle. By Astro's standards, I am much more a LAL guy.

To Lee, it may sound like I am overcomplicating things and maybe I am. But I and many others like to consider some of the deeper issues surrounding this hobby. Where I agree with Lee is that if I had a choice, I'd much rather be doing it than talking about it here. But to me it makes for an interesting pastime to exchange views with friends who are similarly involved in this world, whether over this board or over Imperials at the BM between sessions with girls. From Lee's perspective, I'm an overly psychoanalytic GFE type.

ANYWAY, I think Astro probably hit the nail right on the head with his comments about the girls being able to compartmentalize, knowing how to act and using their colleagues for an emotional support system. I'm not sure if all of the BM girls would fall into the category of ego-strength. Some definitely do, some don't and some just appear to in order to cover their insecurities. Whether Cristal's emotional status is strong enough to survive in the BM world or not or whether her behavior with Astro was just an abberation, I'm not really sure. MAYBE she will succeed, but if she does will it be at what cost?

Lets not forget we are discussing the oldest known profession,so we have to consider its evolutionary origins first and then the social variables add to the complexity of this concept...For survival of our species it is hard wired into our genes to mate with many females,and if possible,to mate with the alpha females.That way we insure our own immortality,and the alpha females carry the best genes for survival...Females look for Alpha males with certain characteristics;strength,speed,health,leadership,physical symmetry,and a good provider.Currency is often considered a symbol of one or more of these characteristics.It could be argued that currency is a surrogate for the female assurance of alpha status,as well as for males,who purchase the services of these females.
Religion,mores,laws,etc. keep the profession somewhat in check,as well as the various bonds of possesion.But it is easy for many females to transition to hooking when currency is not available and much needed.After that the other social issues complete the complexity.

CRdreamin....good post.

dapanz1

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CR Dreamin you ever read "The Naked Ape" or watch "The Human Animal"? Amazing similarities, and anthropologists have documented prostitution in the animal kingdom.

In penguins females will grant sex in exchange for pebbles for their nests. Female apes will do it for food.

My mantra is "Men will lie for sex, and Women will lie for Marriage"

everyone knows that penguins are total sluts...

Thanks for the reassurance guys,I was kinda afraid that I was going off into one of my things again...Yes,I read those books,and from a "survival of the species" point of view,we are no different than the rest of the animal kingdom in finding the best way to get our genes into the next generation.Another book I would recommend is "The Moral Animal",by Robert Wright.It covers the anthropological as well as the social reasons we do the things we do...CRD

Also,I meant to type "that Book" instead of "those books".I was thinking of other books at the time of typing...And I did see on the Diccovery chanel,about female birds will take up with a good provider and nest builder,but when the provider is off looking for food,the female will mate with another male who is physically strong,and have his offsprings.The provider will raise the baby birds thinking they are his.A follow up study indicated that humans also had that tendancy.It makes you wonder how many rich guys have raised the mechanics k*ds???

Well, so much for the concept of marital fidelty and environments conducive to raising well adapted offspring if we are all slaves to some primal urge. Perhaps the institution of marriage should be discarded... But if passing on one`s genes is the objective, I`d suggest ditching the condoms, if you can find many chicas that will have this...

CRDreamin, you would be quite suprised at how many paternal partners are not the biological fathers of their offspring. In just under 40% of cases where a ch*ld is experiencing serious healthcare issues where DNA testing is required, you guessed it, the paternal parent is not the biological. One can imagine the dilema this presents for healthcare providers and the ch*lds mother when the concerned papa is informed of the situation

It's a fact that women will marry for security, but procreate based upon looks and inteligence. Only until recently with advancements in science has the proverbial cat be let out of the bag.

Papa Nut

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