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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:07 am 
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There hookers were johns. You might forge a friendship with a few and make them regulars,a few more might remember you as a good guy. In the end they want our money we want there bodies.For those who think this is not true-ask a hot 23 year old tica/hooker out on a date, tell her she will get no money but you expect sex. See what happens.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:53 am 
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For those who think this is not true-ask a hot 23 year old tica/hooker out on a date, tell her she will get no money but you expect sex. See what happens.


I don't totally disagree with your point, however,

My wingman has had several such dates. He is close to 60.

It is funny because many of the chicas think that we are totally full of shit. He gets a lot of play out of being a "sincere guy."

I can tell you that these relationships do grow over time. Yes they are based on money. But all relationships are based on something and these relationships can grow over time despite their foundation.

Many of these girls are great girls and are worthy of respect. But trust issues are going to be there with many of them. However, if you are not into the whole monogamy thing, then trust becomes a smaller issue. These girls can tell me anything they want to. I don't care. I just focus on enjoying the time I spend with them. I recognize that this is work for them. Just because they are working that does not preclude that your relationship with them can grow. I know that there are clients of mine in my world that I have special feelings for. It is not really any different.


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Tman wrote:
I meant to add one more reflection...WHERE TO FIND NORMAL LATINAS.


If one finds themselves in Miami or fort Lauderdale, just go to either the Pembroke Lakes Mall or The Sawgrass Mall. I swear there are more spanish speaking chicas there than english speaking gringas.

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There is always exceptions. The point i am making is that we should never expect to much and enjoy what we can.


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SparkChaser69 wrote:

If one finds themselves in Miami or fort Lauderdale, just go to either the Pembroke Lakes Mall or The Sawgrass Mall. I swear there are more spanish speaking chicas there than english speaking gringas.


If in Miami go to The Mall of the Americas (Flagler Street at the Palmetto Expw.), spend a couple of hours walking around checking out the stores and some restaurants, and you most likely will not hear one word of English spoken. :shock: :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:46 pm 
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Tman wrote:
I meant to add one more reflection...WHERE TO FIND NORMAL LATINAS.


If one finds themselves in Miami or fort Lauderdale, just go to either the Pembroke Lakes Mall or The Sawgrass Mall. I swear there are more spanish speaking chicas there than english speaking gringas.


He said, "NORMAL LATINAS"....

Having spent 10 years in Miami, I can tell you RIGHT NOW... These are NOT normal latinas... they are south florida chicas... In my opinion, the worst possible combination for a female...

Yeah, sure there are a few diamonds, but REALLY... if you want normal latinas:
Head down to Latin America, go to the largest city in the country of your choosing, then head out to the closes big town...

THAT is where you'll find normal latinas.

Southern FLA you'll generally find latinas who have all the bad traits of latinas - moody, bitchy, extremely overly jealous, huge tempers, with all the bad traits of gringas - expounded to no end on this board...


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This type of discussion is one of the unespected benefits of CRT. An opportunity to have such a discussion with experienced and educated guys with a diversity of opinion.

I have been in a relationship with a Nica who is 25 and has a 5 year old son. I'm 60. I spend half my time in the US and she and her son live in my CR condo with me when I'm in town and there without me when I am in the US. By all odds, this relationship should not work, but it seems to be going surprisingly well. I've decided to take it to the next step.

After looking into the Spousal VISA, Fiancee VISA and the Student VISA, it appears the Student VISA is the best, quickest, cheapest way to bring a smart chica to the US. It also appears to provide the greatest flexibility. I may not live in CR much longer if this approach works as well as it seems. The Berlitz school has relationships with colleges in the US that provide ELS programs (Enhanced Language Studies) and will help from the CR end and if you go to the local ELS program at your local college they will help as well. If it works as well as it appears, I'll report back to you guys who have thoughts of bringing a chica (and her Ch*ldren) to the US.

(The irony of all this is most of the 911 hijackers were in the US on a student VISA, but Homeland Security tightened up on the Finacee VISA and work VISA process. Go figure. :roll:

Of those of you who know me personally, send me a PM if you think I'm crazy. I'm a big boy and can make my own decisions, but I truly value your friendships and opinions.

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Lennydo,

Where did you meet this Nica? What does/did she do for a living? How much education does she have? Does she want to move to the US?


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Lenny,

I am glad you two are doing so well. I know you are one of the ones that it is working for so far and I wish you the best. Thanks for posting, it always is a potential flame-a-thon but I know you could care less about that.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:15 am 
Brother, I wish you the best.

For what it is worth, which is basicly nothing, if things are working for you now, I would not change a thing. I know you know it is a big risk reshuffling the deck when you are dealing with any woman. I have moved twice with women in my life (civilian relationships) and I can tell you that things change in your relationships when you move with woman. The way a womans mind works, it is up to you to adapt to their changes, not the other way around. It is almost like starting over with them. You have to find new things that you share in common, new places that you both enjoy going, ect. In both cases, my relationships ended soon after the move. I think this is very common, as I have since discussed this with many that have had a shared experience.

It is particularly tough on those guys that bring these women back to the USA and they become Americanized after a couple of years. Then things really change!!! Your relationship will change as she adapts to a new culture and becomes more and more independent. Maybe things will change for the better, but the odds are more likely it will go the other way instead. But have no illusions, things WILL change if you move with her.

Good luck!!!!!


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Thanks BK. I wish you the best with your Nica too.

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She has a strong desire to move to the US, but I have been concerned about whether or not she will really like the increased responsibility. It appears the Student VISA approach will allow me to bring her to the US without having to get married and if she drops out of school, she has to return to CR or Nicaragua. If all goes well, and we decide to marry, we can do that in the US and avoid the rule in CR that you remain married for at least 3 years before divorcing. :wink:

I'm moving cautiously, just as I would if I were involved with a woman my age. My first wife at age 21 was 12 years older than me and my second wife was my age. Each lasted approximately 10 years and both were really good women. With this one, if it lasts 5 to 10 years and she gets her education in the US and I enjoy her for that time, I'm OK with that. When I first went to CR, I was not looking for a mate and was surprised to find someone whom I cared about. I certainly had no expectations of taking on a woman with a 5 year old. Based upon the good advice from you guys, I have been and remain cautiously optimistic.

I'll keep you updated on how it's going. I'm as surprised as many of you are that a relationship with any female in CR can work with all the petty lies that fly around. One way that I stopped the petty lies at my house was to tell her that for each lie she tells me, I get a no questions asked night at the Del Rey. The petty lies stopped after that. However, so far I have 3 unused nights at the Del Rey. :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:47 am 
Lennydo wrote:
I'm as surprised as many of you are that a relationship with any female in CR can work with all the petty lies that fly around. One way that I stopped the petty lies at my house was to tell her that for each lie she tells me, I get a no questions asked night at the Del Rey. The petty lies stopped after that. However, so far I have 3 unused nights at the Del Rey. :lol:


THAT'S AWESOME!!!

I'M GOING TO TRY THAT NEXT TIME...


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That IS awesome.

LD - I think one of the reasons things have worked out in your case is from what I know, you've made it clear all along who's wearing the pants in the relationship. Too often when we fall in love with a girl, we turn into pussies and allow ourselves to be easily manipulated and controlled. That was MY biggest mistake.

Good luck - I think you have a winner!

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Lenny,
One question and one suggestion.

If she gets a student visa what does that do for her son?

If you do marry her I only have one word for you: PRE-NUP!
I've considered the 3-5 year "business plan" but when and if it ends you've got to protect yourself and your assets.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:21 pm 
Lenny, it is quite clear you have been around the block and you are going into it with eyes wide open. These things are meant to last as long as they last. If it runs its course, it runs its course. Get the good thing for as long as you possibly can until it is no good any more and then move on quickly is what I say.

LOL........ I think it is a lot to expect out of any Latino/Latina to be 100% honest. BS is encoded in their DNA. I have learned to accept it for what it is. I have to say, I like your approach though. You aren't going to stop it, so you might as well get something out of it, right?

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