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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:51 pm 
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I have emailed admin 1 with the request to move this post to the Novia section.

Yes it is the same tica from years past.

:?: :?: How would others procede :?: :?:
In other words would you end it, try to make it work, keep on keeping on as it stands :?:


Patriot,

Didn't you separately send some desperate posts, requesting help for all the pain and shit this girl is giving you? Why are you torturing yourself with a working girl?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:47 pm 
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I have found that it is very hard for most people to be funny when they are trying to be funny? :(

This is David Letterman funny! :lol:

This however serious it might be? :cry:

I am very sorry and I apoligize if I offend. :lol:

This is funny as hell! :lol: :lol: :lol:

He was not trying to be funny was he? :?:

God luck if you are serious :cry:


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How would others procede
In other words would you end it, try to make it work, keep on keeping on as it stands


Since you asked, here goes; I never actually tried to date a hooker as there is no future in it. That is a truism, which means that sooner or later it will prove itself to be true.

Grow up, you'll probably make a fine adult :roll: :roll: and if you are really interested in finding love, start by not trying to turn a sow’s ear into a silk purse. Of course, that is just my opinion, ……
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Pat... you want honesty so here goes. You are not the first to find yourself in this situation and you will not be the last. Nevertheless, it is my sincere belief that individuals with your, whatever you want to call it, personality type... emotional make-up etc. have no business in San Jose. On very rare occasions this situation does work. The chances are 1 in 5,000 for a positive outcome. The liklihood that your number has been drawn is so very slim... in fact the chance is so miniscule not even a gnat can see it. Wake up and smell the coffee! You're in over your head.

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Pat... you want honesty so here goes. You are not the first to find yourself in this situation and you will not be the last. Nevertheless, it is my sincere belief that individuals with your, whatever you want to call it, personality type... emotional make-up etc. have no business in San Jose. On very rare occasions this situation does work. The chances are 1 in 5,000 for a positive outcome. The liklihood that your number has been drawn is so very slim... in fact the chance is so miniscule not even a gnat can see it. Wake up and smell the coffee! You're in over your head.

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Very rare occasions is right.(like a lottery ticket)The only thing to be found ahead is worse sorrow!


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Very rare occasions is right.(like a lottery ticket)The only thing to be found ahead is worse sorrow!


It really depends on what the expectations are.

If Pat is expecting to build something out of this "relationship", then you guys are probably right, he is in for a lot more than what he has bargined for.

If he just "loves" the time he spends with her and keeps it at that, then I don't see the harm.

It is not the "loving" this chick that is going to get him in trouble. What will screw him big time is if he has unrealistic expectations for an outcome. The more unrealistic the expectations, the more he is screwed.

May advice to Pat is just enjoy the time you spend with her. Do not give into temptations to think you have a relationship that you can build something out of. DO NOT SEND MONEY. Just leave it at that and you will be fine. If you are planning to build a future with this chick and she is still in the business than I have to tell you, you are fool waiting to get crushed.

The ONLY chance you have for a future with this women is if she gets herself out of the business. She needs a real job and to demonstrates to you that she can live a normal life without hooking AND WITHOUT your help. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU NOT HELP HER WITH THIS. Until she can prove to you that she can do that, you are still just a John and you must be realistic about that.

As long as she is in the business she is telling you loud and clear what her priorities are. What she is telling you is that the money she gets from hooking is more important to her than your "relationship with her". That is reality my friend, that is where you stand with her while she is in the business. Until she shows the determination to change that on her own, you have to be realistic about that point.


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Kccostarica wrote:
DrForm wrote:
Very rare occasions is right.(like a lottery ticket)The only thing to be found ahead is worse sorrow!


It really depends on what the expectations are.

If Pat is expecting to build something out of this "relationship", then you guys are probably right, he is in for a lot more than what he has bargined for.

If he just "loves" the time he spends with her and keeps it at that, then I don't see the harm.

It is not the "loving" this chick that is going to get him in trouble. What will screw him big time is if he has unrealistic expectations for an outcome. The more unrealistic the expectations, the more he is screwed.

May advice to Pat is just enjoy the time you spend with her. Do not give into temptations to think you have a relationship that you can build something out of. DO NOT SEND MONEY. Just leave it at that and you will be fine. If you are planning to build a future with this chick and she is still in the business than I have to tell you, you are fool waiting to get crushed.

The ONLY chance you have for a future with this women is if she gets herself out of the business. She needs a real job and to demonstrates to you that she can live a normal life without hooking AND WITHOUT your help. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU NOT HELP HER WITH THIS. Until she can prove to you that she can do that, you are still just a John and you must be realistic about that.

As long as she is in the business she is telling you loud and clear what her priorities are. What she is telling you is that the money she gets from hooking is more important to her than your "relationship with her". That is reality my friend, that is where you stand with her while she is in the business. Until she shows the determination to change that on her own, you have to be realistic about that point.


Kcc... did you actually read the guy's post? He's in way over his head. He's far beyond making any kind of disconnect like you suggest as far as expectations go. His emotional connection is out of control. He's beyond a sense of realism or rational thought. Pat is obsessed. He should have never hit the streets of SJO. Not everyone can rationally/emotionally play this GAME. He's one of them.

Pat.... RUN like a bat out of hell man.... for god's sake RUN!

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Kcc... did you actually read the guy's post? He's in way over his head. He's far beyond making any kind of disconnect like you suggest as far as expectations go. His emotional connection is out of control. He's beyond a sense of realism or rational thought. Pat is obsessed. He should have never hit the streets of SJO. Not everyone can rationally/emotionally play this GAME. He's one of them.

Pat.... RUN like a bat out of hell man.... for god's sake RUN!

Berk......


Berk, yes I read the post. I hear what you are saying. He sounds like he is in over his head.

What I am saying it is one thing to be in over your head and it is another to be stupid about it. We aren't going to talk the guy out of being in love (which is no big deal in it self). He is not going to run away because you say so. The only way to help this guy is to advise him not to start doing a bunch of stupid things because of these "feelings" he has.

We all know that there is 95% chance she is going to try to manuever this into a cash cow situation for herself. As long as he does not fall into the trap of sending her money, I don't see what the harm is.

Good luck Pat, have fun while it lasts, indulge your fantasy, cut her loose the first sign of trouble. It is one thing to be a fool in love and another thing to be just a fool. No matter what: DO NOT SEND MONEY. DO NOT SEND MONEY. DO NOT SEND MONEY!

One more thing: DO NOT SEND MONEY!!!! NO MATTER WHAT!


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Catch 22 here guys...without money...the love fantasy is gone. With sending money...fantasy still intact. You can warn all you want...but many still prefer the fantasy. And hey...its their money. I'm happy for the chicas Babi*s... :wink:

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Catch 22 here guys...without money...the love fantasy is gone. With sending money...fantasy still intact. You can warn all you want...but many still prefer the fantasy. And hey...its their money. I'm happy for the chicas Babi*s... :wink:


Well exactly. But you never know, it may work out on a cash and carry basis.

I know a guy that is making that work. He does not send money. He helps her out when he is around. He knows the game, been doing it for 16 years. He loves the chick. I have met her, I think she actually loves him. He doesn't help her that much and she has done things to demonstrate her sincerity (which I am not going to get into).


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:44 pm 
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He's in way over his head. He's far beyond making any kind of disconnect like you suggest as far as expectations go. His emotional connection is out of control. He's beyond a sense of realism or rational thought. Pat is obsessed. He should have never hit the streets of SJO. Not everyone can rationally/emotionally play this GAME. He's one of them.


Im in stitches over this. :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:25 pm 
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Im in stitches over this. :lol:


There is humor to be found in all corners of the gulch.

Berk, let me ask you this.

#1 the guy has already accepted the fact that she is a punta, so no illusions there.

So here is my question to you: As long as he does not start sending money, what is the harm? What is the down side?

We all have our fantasies. Half the fun of going to the gulch is to get a chance to live them out. I will agree that Pat seems a little nutty about the whole situation. But so what? If she makes him feel good and he is enjoying the ride, who is hurt?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:02 pm 
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or more to the point upchuck:

No matter what I do I can't get her out of my head. My problem.

Recently everything has sucked big time for me so all I do is think about her. She calls me or I call her which makes it worse. We talk for a good 30 minutes or more each time.

I need to get to CR and have some fun. I did it in September and want to do it again. Any want to loan me the money :lol: :lol: :lol: Didn't think so.

I need a mongering trip big time and soon. I was hoping to get there this month but it won't happen.

As far as she is concerned, we'll see. Information keeps coming into light and I am beginning to understand ( maybe ) oh well C'est la vie. Ooops wrong site, Esa es la vida :!: :!: or as the song goes "life sucks then you die".

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:23 pm 
i don't think you can call yourself a monger, if you are only doing one woman :?: :?: :?: :?: not that thats a bad thing :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:


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Yes Patriot asi es la vida.(it's always something)Buy your plane ticket as soon as possible to help with those blues!(and try to meet other chicas as well)


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