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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:20 pm 
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Hey all,

I'm considering spending 2-3 months in Costa Rica starting in Febuary and want advice as far as the do's and don'ts. Here are some of my questions:

1) what short term apartments are availible. I only know about scotland apartments. I would like something within walking distance or quick cab ride to the gulch if possible. If not, something in a nice neighborhood in San Jose is good. I really don't want to spend more than $800 per month for a furnished place.$5-600 per month is even better.

2) Any problems taking chicas back to your short term apartments?

3) How often do power and the internet go down?

4) Where are good places to grocery shop?

What do you notice as the biggest difference between staying for a few months vs. a few weeks.

My longest trip down there has been 2 weeks. I have no intention of moving there permenantly, although having a condo there would be something to consider.

Any help and advice would be appreciated.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:10 am 
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Hey all,

I'm considering spending 2-3 months in Costa Rica starting in Febuary and want advice as far as the do's and don'ts. Here are some of my questions:

1) what short term apartments are availible. I only know about scotland apartments. I would like something within walking distance or quick cab ride to the gulch if possible. If not, something in a nice neighborhood in San Jose is good. I really don't want to spend more than $800 per month for a furnished place.$5-600 per month is even better.

2) Any problems taking chicas back to your short term apartments?

3) How often do power and the internet go down?

4) Where are good places to grocery shop?

What do you notice as the biggest difference between staying for a few months vs. a few weeks.

My longest trip down there has been 2 weeks. I have no intention of moving there permenantly, although having a condo there would be something to consider.

Any help and advice would be appreciated.


A first question...do you really want to stay in San Jose?

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Any place where I have quick access to P4P ticas is good. I actually like San Jose, but then again, I'm a city boy at heart.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:20 am 
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Quick and dirty answers:

1. Vista Linda, Scotia and Sudamer all have places under 800, more in the 4 to 600 range.

2. Not that I have ever heard of.

3. Not often if you live close to the city center. May not happen in 2-3 months.

4. Pulperias are everywhere for small stuff. Bigger stores might require a bus ride or a long walk.

With more time you are less in a hurry, get to know a few people and become more familiar with things in general. I can't say what you specifically will experience.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:39 am 
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If mongering is your primary objective in Costa Rica, then you and San Jose are perfect together. (Jaco might be a distant runner-up.) I have never rented long-term in SJ, but know a little about the city. Your best bet, though, is to reach out to one of the CRT guys who live here. I'll give your questions my best shot.

1) what short term apartments are availible. I only know about scotland apartments. I would like something within walking distance or quick cab ride to the gulch if possible. If not, something in a nice neighborhood in San Jose is good. I really don't want to spend more than $800 per month for a furnished place.$5-600 per month is even better.

$800 a month for "something in a nice neighborhood in San Jose" is feasible, but not a "slam dunk." Remember, San Jose is saturated with wealthier ticos and also ex-pats from North America and Europe who tend to have an escalating influence pricing on everything. Sudamer Apartments in the Soledad (near Idem MP and not very far from HDR) may suit your price range ($450 - $650) and accommodation needs: www.sudamer.net . Since your are a city boy at heart you will probably find the neighborhood nice. There are also the Linda Vista Apartments and Aparthotels in Las Yoses and Sabana. You might want to ask "Don Gordo" about Linda Vista Apartments, though...
Don't forget to check out the classifieds in http://www.amcostarica.com/ and http://www.ticotimes.net . Make sure you talk to the owner and not a third party...try to negotiate your best rate.

As an aside, I rented a brand new one-bedroom apartment in San Isidro during June for $375 per month (brand new and fully-furnished). San Isidro is a beautiful little city in the mountains and home to the most gorgeous women in CR...unfortunately, in your case, there is zero tolerance for mongering.


2) Any problems taking chicas back to your short term apartments?

I never heard of anyone staying at the Sudamer or Linda Vista complain of chica guest issues.

3) How often do power and the internet go down?

Last June, I recall two very short power outages in San Jose and a day-long loss of Internet while in San Isidro. (I heard something about a severed cable being at the root of the Internet problem.

4) Where are good places to grocery shop?

Automercado and Max X Menos are ubiquitos throughout Costa Rica. They are very clean, and more modern than most of the grocery stores I use in South Jersey. Excellent selections, but are also the priciest. There are also Megasuper and Pali discount stores..rumored to have ties with the juggernaut of retail..Walmart. A good selection...more spartan-like ambiance and better pricing than the aforementioned supermarkets. Finally, there is Mercado Central, in the heart of San Jose, which has everything under the sun. Fresh poultry (even live chickens), beef, fish, produce, spices and cooking utensils. The place may be a little grungy for some (and watch your wallet), but the prices are right...and the food is fresh. I love shopping here. :wink:

What do you notice as the biggest difference between staying for a few months vs. a few weeks.

You will begin to pick up Spanish, hopefully meet some of the locals...and if you monger in SJ for several months, your bankroll will be non-existent instead of meager. San Jose is not cheap. :shock: :!:



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:26 am 
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Wow, thanks guys. I'm headed up there in November for two weeks, so I will stop by the different apartments and check them out.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:14 am 
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My dos colones, ask an ex-pat that lives there rather than listen to anything that pseudo-experts like me say. Its not that guys like me won't know at all what we're talking about. Its that the ex-pats will know much better. Personally, the longest I've stayed in SJ has been 1 month. I stayed at the Linda Vista apartments, but I've at least checked out personally the other 2 places you mentioned. So here are my own answers to your questions.

1) You'll pay for location. In general prices will be cheaper the further out from the city center you go but prices will be higher the nicer the neighborhood you stay in. Rather than rehash this subject which has been written on many times, why don't you check out what I and others posted in these threads:
http://www.costaricaticas.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=40195
http://www.costaricaticas.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=52720

I will add a few comments. Of the places you listed, I've stayed at or at least checked out personally all of them and I'd have to say that the Sudamer is IMHO the best deal in terms of quality of apartment and proximity to the Gulch for the price, however it is in the scuzziest neaighborhood of the three and it runs at the top of your price range. Much nicer places can be found for much less if you're willing to stay somewhere you'll need to take a bus into town.

You want to be within walking distance to the P4P but that is going to greatly limit you and you will pay in more than one way for that "benefit". Your choices will be greatly restricted, the cost for equivalent quality will be much greater than the deals you get elsewhere and if you opt for the P4P everyday (particularly the BM) instead of trying to develop regular pros that will come to you or, even better, non-pro contacts, over a few month you'll pay much more extra than the cost of the apartment (plus it will probably grow a little old). On this last point, I would add that that is one of the big advantages of living in CR over a period of time. I'm not saying you should live out in Escazu like VB, LVSteve, Easy and others but I wouldn't be afraid to live in a place where you had to take a bus into town (or cab back later at night). It will probably be a much nicer place for the money.

2) Problems taking chicas back to apartments? Its your place and you can do whatever you want. I doubt you would have any problems at any apartment you'd rent or at least not in the way that you'd think. Just keep in mid that there are some advantages to having to check in your chica. at least someone else checks her ID, if you fail to do it. They also record it or even hold on to it while she is with you and if they hold on to it usually won't give it back unless you give the green light. Also few if any apartments include a room safe. If you bring a chica back and she slips you a mickey or goes through your things while you are in the bathroom or, in the case of TLN's, are asleep, then she can't just slip away. If the front desk guy has her ID, she won't get it back without your say so. And even if she has her ID or is able to get it back, her name has been recorded and you're more likely to be able to track her down if it turns out she ripped you off. Those protections probably won't apply if you stay in an apartment.

3) I can't say on the outage issue, but its never been an issue when I've been done there and doesn't sound like it would be much of an issue based on what others have said.

4) Automercado and Mas x Menos are very much like grocery stores in the states, albeit with a lot of brandnames you're probably not familiar with. Pali's are certainly much cheaper, but spartan is a bit of an understatement. They're unlike anything back in the states unless you've been into a mercado in some immigrant barrio. No racks or fancy coolers, just rows of stacked boxes of groceries and some run down equipment for meats and perishables along the sides. Usually, you can find one or the other of these within walking distance or at least a short busride of where you live. The pulperias you're probably already familiar with are like 3rd world convenience stores. There's usually one just a short walk away but limited selection and more expensive than their larger alternatives. The Mercado is a colorful and very cheap place to shop, but there's only one. There's also Mercado Borbon, a couple of blocks to the north of that, and it actually is probably a little better for food and fresh produce. But you'll probably need a cab or bus to get to either of these. If you don't mind traveling to stock up on your weekly staples, Price-mart is another place to consider, particularly if you live further out. It is more like a Super-WalMart, that you might already be familiar and comfortable with, much fancier than the Mercado but still cheap if you don't mind buying in bulk.

5) Differences between long term stays vs. short vacations? As I said the longest I've been there at one time has been a month but I did notice some trends. You may have already noticed that one of the chica interview questions, aside from where you stay, is how long you in Costa Rica. They try to size you up for whether you are a one shot deal to be pumped for as much cash as they can right away or whether you are someone they can work over time. I think that gives you a lot more power. If they do a really good job they know you'll be back for more and keep coming back for quite a while. Not only will they be willing to work harder but they will be more willing to cut a deal if they know it will lead to regular and reliable contributions to their livelihood. And that is just with the pro's in the P4P market. Really working at scoring a non-pro is a practical waste of time for the week at a time guys, unless perhaps they travel to CR every month, but even then that puts a crimp on their action. As a resident you can work a non-pro. If you don't score right away, you have other places to go, but given time and patience eventually something will pay off for you.

One last thing, unless you hang only with CRT'ers and other gringos, you will begin to pick up more Spanish. I suggest you take advantage of your time in CR and sign up for a language course. Unless you're already fluent, even if you think you already speak some, you'll pick up a lot more with a formal class. While you could also take informal lessons from the BM putas, where you learned might wind up reflected in how you speak (sort of like going to the hood and listening to ebonics to learn english). And you can't spend all your time phucking and mongering anyway, so lessons are a worthwhile alternative activity to keep you busy and out of trouble.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:51 am 
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And you can't spend all your time phucking and mongering anyway, so lessons are a worthwhile alternative activity to keep you busy and out of trouble.


Who says you can't???


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Rather than list it all here, drop me a note when you are here in November and I will be happy to discuss the process I went through last year when I was moving here for a "three month experiment" which has turned into 15 months and counting :roll: :wink:

There are a lot of alternatives and opinions. If you talk with me, Bilko and maybe VB or LV Steve you will get a broad range of valid options.

It did take me 90 days to quit living like a horny sailor on a three day pass and i spent three times what I now average a month.

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Bktuna wrote:

It did take me 90 days to quit living like a horny sailor on a three day pass and i spent three times what I now average a month.

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Glad you told me your not still living like a horny sailor or I'd have never known :wink:

But in answer to the questions, I'd recommend Scotland. $550-$650, pretty nice and can't beat the location. 10 minute walk to the Gulch with convience stores and a supermarcado closer than that. 10 minutes the other way is Mall San Pedro. I'm working on my fourth month here and have had a good time.
Power has only gone out when the poster mentioned above. It was a hassel and was supposedly because there wasn't enough water behind the dams at the end of the dry season. Now, that is NOT a problem...
Internet is pretty good at Scotland. Goes slow sometimes and is down maybe once a week but all in all, not bad. And it is high-speed.
I NEVER had a problem with a girl coming back to my apartment except for a couple that worked at ZB :shock: Just kidding Eddie...never asked :D
I'd take BK up on his advice when your here in November. That is a very gracious offer.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:24 pm 
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Thanks for all of the info guys. I think I'll give the whole apartment living lifestyle a test run during my 2 week trip in November.


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what are the cost for cable and internet in cr?? we pay like $110 in wisconsin for the two in that price range or more??


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what are the cost for cable and internet in cr?? we pay like $110 in wisconsin for the two in that price range or more??


I pay $28.00 per month for cable. Internet depends on if it is dial up, ADSL or cable modem. I only can speak about cable modem. That price is determined on what speed you choose. Mine is 3Mbps/256Kbps (the fastest service they offer) and cost $70.00 per month.

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