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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:35 am 
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Cyg, I can't help you. I love anal but I like to ensure that the "runway" is clear before I start the takeoff roll.
LMFAO. :lol: Pacifica, only us Pilots will get this one. I like to Taxi around for awhile before loading. Or I'll use the Glide Slope Approach. LOL :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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OK, I HAVE to make to Brazil someday...if only to find a chica who REALLY loves anal. Not that I find anything particularly sexy or a strong need to do that...but somehow I have found it hard to believe anyone, woman or man, would LIKE IT up the ass. The only times I have "gone there" were bascially by mistake during certain positions...and mostly when in a drunkin condition. At neither time did the chica go..."OOOHH, I like that".

Now maybe this puts me in a category of "conservative" or "prudish", but I have never been interested in sexual behavior that didnt bring pleasure or satisfaction to my partner as well as myself. The best sex and partners I have had has involved the effort to climax TOGETHER...as simultaneous as possible. I have always found that goal to be significant to both parties. Yet, many of the "deviant" acts that have been discussed or listed in this thread seem to me to not be anything about MY goal in sex. I still say the best sex starts in the brain and is connected to the person you are with...what your emotions and attraction to them is. To ever want to defacate or urinate on another person, let alone a beautiful woman...well, to me it signifies some pretty extreme psychosis. I dont even like most porn because it so unrealistically depicts what I have found in normal sexual behavior and relationships. I really dont think many women are that excited about taking it in all their holes or "worshipping the male libido"...and while there are a few who truly love giving BJs...they also are few and far in between (and you will know the difference when you find them).

So in summary, if we want meaningful, long term relationships with the opposite sex, in most cases it will not involve aggressive, painful acts or defacating on your partner. Sorry...just dont see it as being that erotic. Sure, there are accommodating sources out there for just about anything...but in my book that is usually about money...or people with severe deviant behavioral complexes. (Psycheman...where are you?)

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Good points Pacifica...and I'm not trying to say that anything but "vanilla sex" is preverted somehow...though I will probably never be open to excreting on someone or into masochism or sado. And believe me, I have been around a "little bit" and open to a lot of things (beside the above)...but have never had a woman begging me for anal. Thats why I'm Brazil curious and open to that extent.

Part of my point...and I guess where I am coming from...is that for me, eroticism is not "painful"...and is not all about the sex organs or "holes" as some put it. I find kissing and oral sensations over all the body to be more intense and erotic than just finding smaller holes to put it in. I guess that is the point I was trying to make...and I guess the women I gravitate to are more interested in mutual oral activities in foreplay etc than taking my "big organ" :roll: in their little hole...

But...I will start asking your suggested question more often. Thats a good idea...

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First of all...yecccccch to the list. :mrgreen: Violence and feces, blood and debasement really have no place in my sexual world. Thank God. I freak out when I pull my dong out of her ass and it looks like a chili dog.

Sexual addiction: I don't buy it, nor do about half the "experts." Problem is, with other addictions, it's easy to identify the reinforcer (i.e. that which drives an increase in the behavior). With a given drug, for instance you can identify the receptor site in the brain which the drug stimulates. With some drugs, withdrawal (abstinence syndrome) drives the addiction as much as the pleasure derived from using the drug.

With sex it's wa-a-a-ay more complex. What's the reinforcer? Orgasm? Power? Psychological intimacy? Tough to define. "Sex addiction" has joined many other pop psychologies...IMHO it's bullshit. Your opinion may vary.

Now to Pacifica's question: This about me, and only about mongering (not my "real world" sex life). For me, the learning curve has been steep. As pacifica points out, the first time you're in C.R. it's sort of "wow...I can do any of these girls and want to do most of them..." After that, a monger starts to define what he needs/wants at the moment. I went from:

1st trip: I'm intimidated.
2nd trip: I'm too new...but I want to ride all the rides I looked outside the Gulch with excellent results, but wasn't particularly interested in body type or beauty...just looked for some friendly attitudes and sweet personalities. I was still very nervous and new.
3rd trip: I have no taste in women. But at least I did a bunch of them, was sexually successful with all, satisfied by most. Spent too much money.
4th trip: Wonder if I can find a chick who's into toy play and bondage? Okay, if not...just a good BBBJ. I want smaller women, more athletic bodies.

5th trip: ???? No idea until I get there. Can't wait. I've gone from being overwhelmed to being more confident. Maybe I'll try to court a non-pro? Na-a-ah. I'm too lazy. Still... :?

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OK, I HAVE to make to Brazil someday...if only to find a chica who REALLY loves anal. Not that I find anything particularly sexy or a strong need to do that...but somehow I have found it hard to believe anyone, woman or man, would LIKE IT up the ass. The only times I have "gone there" were bascially by mistake during certain positions...and mostly when in a drunkin condition. At neither time did the chica go..."OOOHH, I like that".

Now maybe this puts me in a category of "conservative" or "prudish", but I have never been interested in sexual behavior that didnt bring pleasure or satisfaction to my partner as well as myself. The best sex and partners I have had has involved the effort to climax TOGETHER...as simultaneous as possible. I have always found that goal to be significant to both parties. Yet, many of the "deviant" acts that have been discussed or listed in this thread seem to me to not be anything about MY goal in sex. I still say the best sex starts in the brain and is connected to the person you are with...what your emotions and attraction to them is. To ever want to defacate or urinate on another person, let alone a beautiful woman...well, to me it signifies some pretty extreme psychosis. I dont even like most porn because it so unrealistically depicts what I have found in normal sexual behavior and relationships. I really dont think many women are that excited about taking it in all their holes or "worshipping the male libido"...and while there are a few who truly love giving BJs...they also are few and far in between (and you will know the difference when you find them).

So in summary, if we want meaningful, long term relationships with the opposite sex, in most cases it will not involve aggressive, painful acts or defacating on your partner. Sorry...just dont see it as being that erotic. Sure, there are accommodating sources out there for just about anything...but in my book that is usually about money...or people with severe deviant behavioral complexes. (Psycheman...where are you?)


Actually Tman...the anus has more nerve endings per square millimeter than any other site on the body except the mouth.

Many people, men and women enjoy butthole play. Give it a try, sailor! :lol: Seriously, if it's clean, lubricated to the max and the penetrating body is covered, anal can be fun.

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Yea Ciego...sounds like something a lot of guys find out in prison. :shock: Personally, I dont want to go there...and cant relate to male bi sexuality. As liberal as I am...and I HAVE had gay friends who I respected their right to feel otherwise...I will just settle for the fine sensations I get from my favorite organ. Sure, I've played the butthole fingering game both directions (God, we're getting graphic and detailed here), but NOT big and deep in that hole. That has NEVER sounded like fun. I'll just take other peoples word that they find pleasure in it.

I come back to my original thesis...I find other activities more erotic, cleaner, and gets me off just as well or better. Most of it has to do with the mind...and connectedness to a woman as deep as that can go emotionally and sexually.

OK...now I have to think about something else...like work :oops:

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Nice reality check on this page of this thread.

I would think as long as everyone is happy with NOTHING against the others will what’s wrong with that. I just can't imagine in my wildest dreams someone asking to be crapped on, pissed on or tortured :o ! My belief is that these ideas pop up in twisted psychics that are from very frustrated, unhappy & angry people with their own failures & ignorance.

I have had a lot of interesting conversations with the chicas & once they get a good read on you & see you as someone they can open up with many fascinating things come out of them. Some stories are priceless. The look in their eyes (man what eyes :D ) plus their animated expressions tell it all 8) . Many have told me
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Can you believe what this guy asked??!!! He wanted me to do :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: !!! See that guy over their you know what he wanted??? They are crazy!! You Gringos are CRAZY!!!!
Of course this is when I politely say NOT ALL OF US!!

Most all the Latinas I have talked to which are my cup of tea & far from some way-out freak of nature in my book (disclaimer YMMV) are in to what appears to me to be the natural way of pleasing each other. This works for me & I have to agree that I want my big hug when they greet me when we see each other someday. No one can hide the truth of mutual respect & true feelings that radiate in a natural way if one has half a brain at all :wink: .

Life is so good if we respect all including yourself & we don’t try to make something more out of it than could every truly be. Those that try to force bizarre shit on others soon follow the fate of self destruction, seen it a million times.

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Yea Ciego...sounds like something a lot of guys find out in prison. :shock: Personally, I dont want to go there...and cant relate to male bi sexuality. As liberal as I am...and I HAVE had gay friends who I respected their right to feel otherwise...I will just settle for the fine sensations I get from my favorite organ. Sure, I've played the butthole fingering game both directions (God, we're getting graphic and detailed here), but NOT big and deep in that hole. That has NEVER sounded like fun. I'll just take other peoples word that they find pleasure in it.

I come back to my original thesis...I find other activities more erotic, cleaner, and gets me off just as well or better. Most of it has to do with the mind...and connectedness to a woman as deep as that can go emotionally and sexually.

OK...now I have to think about something else...like work :oops:


Tman, who said ANYTHING about homoerotic behavior? Not me. I simply point out that anal play is enjoyed by many, many people, including heterosexual males and females.

1. You got a prostate, bucko. Ever wonder what it feels like to get it banged until you ejaculate?? And buddy, I've never been even close to prison, nor have I fantasized about it.

2. As I mentioned above, the anal ring is replete with nerve endings. Nature's way of helping us keep the turtle from sticking out its little brown head before it's appropriate to defecate. Gentle vibrator play, rimming, whatever...it's all good.

3. Hygiene: Yes, a dirty as$hole is no fun and a good way to spread illness. However, a little prep before anal play can prevent nearly all the nastiness. The giving/receiving of traditional enemas is pleasurable for many, but you probably don't want to go there... :wink:

If you're truly into eroticism, as I believe you are...perhaps you might consider other venues to pleasure? I'm not talking only about anal here, but I have found that when we open our minds to the variety of possible sexual activities, the sex life becomes far richer and more pleasurable. Not to mention adventurous!

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El Ciego I see where you are coming from & you are dead on about all those little nerve endings. The problem I have is I also have very sensitive nerve endings in my nose & I don't like nose plugs :D ! I always figured there was a good reason SHIT SMELLED SO BAD. It was simply Gods way of telling us to stay away & not play with that shit :P .

Everybody’s nose is different & I have enjoyed anal with a few Girlfriends that asked for it in a well ventilated room :) . I fould their pu$$ies were tighter than their ass anyway after you have been there a while. Some of my Gynecologist friends have discussed the damage they have seen from ignorance & anal sex. As they pointed out it just wasn't made for that type of use :? .

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Pacifica and Ciego...we are truly getting down to the core of the matter at hand. On one hand we talk "pure pleasure" and feelings of the actual sex act...whatever part of the body it is being perpetrated on. On the other hand we are saying...it does matter if it is a male or female perpetuating that action on our sensitivities. So that might mean it is "relationship based" within the confines of our own mental framework of who and what is acceptible to be intimate with us. To some bi-people, everyone is a candidate to find pleasure with in this way. It sounds good, but I just cant go there.

My main question of some of the earlier posts on this thread was the apparent focus on acts that to me had nothing to do with erotic or hetero activites. It seems to me many people would Phuck anything that moves just to bust a nut...and if our focus is only in the act and our own pleasure, why does it matter whom it is with? Male or female...hetero or homo. Why is there a difference between shitting on a woman versus another male? I hope someone is understanding the issue I am trying to clarify here. I think the relationship matters...and what both parties want. To just go looking for someone that will let me put it up their anus...I'm just not there. But then, as my friend Zippy explains it, if my girl wants and likes it...well, I might do it even if I personally dont really want to stick it up there. I am with him...God made that hole for something else...and we are "stretching" the limits (he said tongue in cheek) to be desiring it for sexual release. YMMV :twisted:

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Well I hate to change the subject matter away from such interesting shit as stool specimens, bung hole brown barnacles & E-coli :( but we must progress on right :wink: :D ?? I got out my Monty Python Meanings to life Manual & right there it was on page 374. It said there is a BIG difference in what we will find by what we seek :o ! Maybe this has something to do with where every you go there you are :oops: ? Shit I just get confused :lol: .

When I think about it it seems like many of us live life in phases. Mongering seems to be an exploratory phase to me as we progress on with life. Usually the progression that seems "normal" to me is we go from pounding out our sexual confusions & frustrations to a more loving & caring relationship where we have more harmony & peace of mind as we work our "kinks" out. Some get even more confused & get stuck in the "kinks" but most men I know just seem to get bored after a while with just plunging holes which leaves them yearning for someone to hold on to.

Back to my manuel :wink: .

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