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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:13 am 
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I asked last night my DR amiga and she said some gringo OD'd on coke in his room. That's all she knew. She thinks just about all gringos are loco.

Has there been anything in the local paper yet?

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I can almost confirm with certainty he was 35. I was actually there when all of the drama was taking place. As for him being a moron. Yes, I just don't see any other way around it. But, this is coming from a guy who is not at all into the drug scene. I played a bit when younger but wised up real quick.

I don't know if the drama had any effect on the chica turn out but last night the talent level was the worst I had seen in many years. A few 8's and 9's and a ton of 4 to 6's.

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I don't know if the drama had any effect on the chica turn out but last night the talent level was the worst I had seen in many years. A few 8's and 9's and a ton of 4 to 6's.


Say Dapanz1 - if you see my buddy Drillm there at DR tell him I said hello. Thanks.

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Cash ... I fly solo there often too , but I don't do coke. The reason I responded to this thread was it reminded me of a previous trip. A wingman of mine met a couple of coke users that stayed in Del Rey and suddenly he was partying with them and doing a drug he hadn't touched in 15 years. I watched these guys go back & forth to the room every 30 minutes for a couple more lines for 3 nights in a row. They couldn't even leave the gulch to enjoy a strip club because they were jonesing for more coke. Of coarse, by the time I found out what he was doing, it was too late to talk sense to the dude. On day 2 the dumbass gave $ to Ronnie the street hustler for some baby laxative. On day 3 he was walking around HDR wearing sweat pants and a flannel shirt, looking like he washome with the flu. A fat ugly chica told me my amigo smells horrible and asked me to keep him away from her. That's pathetic! Can you imagine looking like that and smelling bad in a room with over 100 women? I only saw him take one girl in three days in SJ , and that was @ ZB before he met his coke friends. I hated seeing him ruin what could have been the time of his life like that.

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Basically, it was the whole "moron" / negative perspective that I feel is unfair. And, who knows what kind of partying he did. Maybe it was one line and done. He took it too far cause he's dead. But, how many times have you or anyone pushed it in life?
Point taken CashConn, well except for your defense of insulting the dead guy. My initial response was posted in anger to see another young life wasted because of reckless indulgence, a bad choice, a bad habit or losing it all to an addiction. My guess is you've never had to personally (or helplessly) watch a friend destroy or end their life going down that path, I have more than once so it just hits a nerve with me. Hell I even get pissed at friends that won't quit smoking, or at least try.
We make our own choices and can do what we want but unfortunately when some people start to slip away we just can't save them from themselves. If you think you might have a problem with drugs & alcohol you probably do- get help. I've not heard of anyone OD-ing on pu*sy yet so I'll stick to that. Like somebody else frequently posts- "Let's be careful out there" :wink:


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Basically, it was the whole "moron" / negative perspective that I feel is unfair. And, who knows what kind of partying he did. Maybe it was one line and done. He took it too far cause he's dead. But, how many times have you or anyone pushed it in life?


One line.... half a line..... 5 lines..... what real difference does it make. None. Drug use is moronic. Excessive booze consumption is moronic. I smoke and have for years. I'm a moron considering the danger. Call it like it is. The guy is a phuckin' idiot and now someone has/is/or will tell his family he died in a whorehouse from an OD. There is nothing unfair about that. It's simply a fact.

If the dude wasn't a stupid, phuckin' idiot then what was he? My only concern is for his family and the suffering they must now go through.

Anybody that touches the stuff knows the risk. He played hard and it caught up with him. Assuming he wasn't murdered, he did this to himself. There is no one else to blame. Stupid is stupid.

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Having lost my brother to heroin, I feel somewhat qualified to add my tuppence.

My brother wasn't a moron, but he was very good at self-deception and denial. I have known many, many drug users and abusers over the years. The abusers all had one thing in common, they denied they really had a problem. They were just 'partying,' they just liked to have a good time. The only 'drug problem' they would admit is that they ran out sometimes.

After the usual consequences, lost jobs, jail time, ruined marriages, etc., etc., some finally admitted they had a problem. Some did something about it, and others, like my brother, just rolled over to their problems, put their habit behind the wheel and let it drive their lives.

Costa Rica is a dangerous place if you have no self control. You can easily find 'friends' to get drunk with or stay up all night doing coke. It's a 'party' in San Jose virtually every night, and you have to step out of line pretty badly to hear a discouraging word. Some people think what happens in Costa Rica stays in Costa Rica. I suspect the corpse will be shipped back to wherever the live body came from.

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MORON - a stupid person

STUPID - 1.Slow to learn or understand; obtuse.
2. Tending to make poor decisions or careless mistakes.

Bilko.... with all due respect ANYONE who allows themselves to be lead down the path of drug use is a moron... especially to the point of losing one's life. It's moronic, stupid behavior which an individual chooses. It's no different than carelessly playing with a rattlesnake.

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My two cents -I have no idea what its like to have sex with 10 different sexy woman in one week but one thing I do know is about this :

Addiction is a disease (Its genetic )and if you have it is not YOUR fault .You are no more responsible for it as a person who has cancer is responsible for there disease . But you are responsible for your actions and must be held accountable .

The problem is its the only disease you get punished for having ,it destroys your life and eveyone around you . I am sure in some part there are people whos live are destroyed because of what happened to this Guy . Addiction is uncurable and is a cunning baffleing and insideous disease .It progresses even whan you are clean and sober .
You can abstain from drugs for many years then while strolling threw the delrey some guys says pssst yo you need some blow? and inside something jars you an uncontrollable desire- hey maybe I can do a little coke im on vacation anyway ?? In a matter of days or weeks you will be right back doing an 8 ball a day and wake up in a detox wondering what the feck happend . You think Shawns buddy thought he would waste his trip in a coke stuper stinking like a pig? 1 in 10 people in the US are addicts so 9 of 10 can stop before they turn into the "pig" all it takes is one line ,one drink ,one pill or one bag to release the demons .

Remember The rush you feel when you first arrive at the DR the 1st day of your trip the excitement inside you can barely unpack !! multiply that by 100 and you will know what it feels like when an addict is knocking on his dealers door .COMPLETE POWERLESSNESS the guy who died was SICK and died from his disease.

How do you know your an addict ?its a self diagnosis .Is your life unmanageble ? have you lost enough? Have you had enough??everyone has there own bottom some are lower then others this guys bottom was 6 feet underground .

Fortunatly there are ways to arrest it before it kills you .The most effective way is total abstenance from all mood and mind altering substances including alchohol because alchohol is a drug . An alchoholic who has never smoked pot can bet that if he does it will lead him back to alchohol ,you cannot switch drugs . Once you abstain from all of this ,programs like NA and AA which they have plenty of in SJ will guide you through what they call the 12 steps and by doing this you get at the root of the disease and are able to rid yourself of alot of baggage you are carrying ,make amends to people you have hurt and put yesterday in its place and not worry about tommoro and learn to live for today one day at a time .Sounds like BS to some but its helped Millions and millions of people not end up dead in a CR brothel .

If you have a diabetic and give him a box of twinkies and he eats them and dies he is a moron he made a dumb choice
When you give an addict a bag of coke he takes it and dies he did it because he is powerles over his disease and had no will of his own at the time .
Everybody has there journey and there end .THANK GOD thats not me in that room it could have been sooo easy , thank god . Ill say a prayer for this guys family I have empathy today . JG

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Bilko.... with all due respect ANYONE who allows themselves to be lead down the path of drug use is a moron...

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Do you drink, Berk? Just curious.

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Bilko wrote:
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Bilko.... with all due respect ANYONE who allows themselves to be lead down the path of drug use is a moron...

Berk......


Do you drink, Berk? Just curious.


Two beers in 8 days when I was down last week. I can make a 6 pack last a month at home.

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JerseyGringo wrote:
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Addiction is a disease (Its genetic )and if you have it is not YOUR fault .You are no more responsible for it as a person who has cancer is responsible for there disease . But you are responsible for your actions and must be held accountable . ........



That's nothing but a bunch of politically correct mumbo jumbo. To assert that snorting coke up one's nose is NOT the individuals fault is nothing but a rationalization of malo behavior. In reality 99.9999% of the time no one is holding a gun to a coke snorter's head. It's a choice the individual makes. This is nothing but an attempt to shy away from personal responsibility. Your statement is oxymoronic.... it's NOT your fault, but you are responsible and must be held accountable.

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That's nothing but a bunch of politically correct mumbo jumbo. To assert that snorting coke up one's nose is NOT the individuals fault is nothing but a rationalization of malo behavior. In reality 99.9999% of the time no one is holding a gun to a coke snorter's head. It's a choice the individual makes. This is nothing but an attempt to shy away from personal responsibility. Your statement is oxymoronic.... it's NOT your fault, but you are responsible and must be held accountable.

Berk...........


I have to disagree to a point here. People are genetically predisposed towards addiction. That has been scientifically proven. Read most medical journals and you will find that. The issue comes down to is if the person is aware of the predisposition.

Also, some people do drugs on a recreational basis. They aren't classified as addicts because they are only users when it's available. Many casual users OD because they misjudge usage since they are infrequent users.

I have seen addicts in person and have called them friends. Most are well aware of their problem. Most don't care since they can hold it together enough to keep going through life and getting high. The ones that bottom out and flame out are the ones that tend to make a recovery and learn to live without the need of a drug to get them through life.

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I was wondering if the action has picked up in DR?


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Berk, Like others, I respect your opinion but let me ask this one. If a guy tags a chica without a condomn....he is stupid ... If a guy tags a chica without a condomn all the time, gets aids and dies....was he stupid or a moron?

The same holds true for drinking and driving. If you do it and get away with it, your just stupid. If you do it and die, would you be considered a moron or stupid...

The whole situation is sad. I never touched coke or any drugs other than alcohol....but I did manage a whomping .31 blood alchohol level in college one day...STUPID ME....If I did it every week, I think I would be considered a moron. That phone call my mother got from the hospital asking if they could work on me must have been one of the toughest my mother ever had to deal with. I can only imagine what this family is going through.

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