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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:36 am 
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” What bothers me is how dishonest and cruel some of the girls could be with their ‘gringo-boyfriend.’
This part sucks but life is what it is. So many of these Latinas are young & many of the mongers like me are older. It is only natural they may find us & our ideas as disgusting. When they find how disgustingly stupid some of us can be that even allows many to justify taking our money to the point of hurting us. After all they probably figure this guy is so dumb & weak to the ways of this world another chica will steal his money if I don't. Just a theory & I could always be wrong :? . I will remain just disgusting & leave the rest for others :wink: .

I admire a mans kind heart I just don't like the results I have seen.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:36 pm 
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Is the entire relationship dependant entirely on money: yes


Not necessarily... Although 99.999% of the time yes.

I myself haven't had it, but I do know people who've had it not be about money...


Other then that, you nailed it right on the head everywhere else...


99% accuracy is close enough for me. I would further say that no man is smart enough to know if he is part of the 1%. If you think you are part of the 1% you are probably kidding yourself. So what does it matter?

Who really cares if if is based on money anyway? All women are very aware of the economic realities of the men they are involved with. So that is why I say it is a stupid argument.

I have a couple working girls that I have great chemistry and a good relationship with. One lets me stay at her place and she doesn't charge me if I am just hanging out.

I have no illusions. Does she like me, Yes, I think she likes me quite a lot. SO WHAT? If she didn't think there was a possible economic advantage in it for her, I would not be as close to her as I am.

In the big scheme of things, why does that matter? I really do think most all women are like that.

I think where guys get screwed up is when they start thinking in terms of fidelity with these women. As long as you have no fidelity illusions, then everything else is cool. Have fun, enjoy their company, the rest of the fantasy is all good.

OldQDog: how many shots of Jack Daniels did you drink before that little rant? What exactly is your point?


Exactly All women are like this.
"If she didn't think there was a possible economic advantage in it for her, I would not be as close to her as I am.

"In the big scheme of things, why does that matter? I really do think most all women are like that."

All women are genetically hardwired to find a mate that can provide well for them, thats just the way it is. Now add on that their parents teach them to find a good catch which for them is by definition a good provider with good earnings potential that is nice, ....good looking and entertaining is not on that parental must have list. Now in Latina culture when a parent drives this part home they listen to and respect even more to their parents than we do in our culture. So it is no mystery that money and earning power of their mate/boyfriend is very high.
But this should not bother anybody.... that is just nature at work... it certainly is not an unnatural phenomenon that the women go with the best provider. I think sometimes women do genuinely fall in love and dont think about the financial outcomes, but it doesnt take long, not longer than a couple months, for the "love" relationship to fall apart when they cant pay the renta because the bum is sitting on the couch writing poems.

I can translate oldqdogs sesquipedalian rant, I have my decoder ring from my cracker jack box with me today so hes trying to say in a convoluted way is that: they are using "our" good old capitalistic system so we shouldnt complain when the fantasy does not seem authentic.


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I declare this fuckin thread dead!!!

I don't know about you guys, but I have used everything from pina coladas, to candy, to roses, to lies, to kisses, and yes, even money to score pu*sy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Women don't give it up for free. Never have, and never will. They expect something for it. So what the Phuck??? If the girl is a freakin whore, so what??? I have had much worse behavior from women who never took money for it, just blood, emotional distress, ego destruction...etc.

I say party on!!! Phuck em. Marry em. Don't marry em. Pay em if you have to; but always treat women with respect unless the do something to lose it.

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Actually I wrote the sesquipedalian rant an the computer at the Prez. No "Jack" just Freire, the Museo National and a meeting with my fav on my mind.

My old "fav" had told me over the phone that some gringo was taking care of her but we were still cool to do what we do - no surprise. She also wanted me to check out her sis (in case I had business for her too). Cool. When they arrived I lost my interest in playing so I just bought lunch and paid for the cab. A previous experience the day before left me "high as a kite". When she said what's up, I said there is another "chica". She say "Are you made at me?" I say no just need to change up. She say "what can I do?" I say nothing for you to do. She seemeddissapointed but she say "OK, email me when you get back home. Let me know if you want to hook up when you return. I like talking with you anyway." She also said "you be careful".

Was it an act - doubt it. Did she miss the p4p - probably (I say probably because p4p is not always the case with us). But she has bills to pay and stuff she wants too.

For reason's I am unsure of, my new "fav's" approach seems more human, trusting and caring than any p4p in my CR experience. Actually, it seemed that her management of p4p was very awkward, unsure and her first showing of herself, even shy. I met her in Key Largo and asker her to come to the Prez the next day. She was early and seemed anxious. Is this an act. Perhaps some more experienced can enlighten me. She said she was a newbie.

My old "fav" was reminding me that in this game my own need for liberation, my humanity, needed to be managed. Both new and old chica have made real for me that my own desire for liberation, goes very well with a chica's vision that "rich gringos" willing to p4p, may serve as the object of their liberation (emotional, economic, spiritual, or whatever).

I think I have found a chica, or two, who tell me the truth. We'll see. If so, for that I am grateful to them. My old "fav" was reminding me to not forget who I am while playing the game. My new "fav" has reminded me that how I am with her, and other chicas, determines my own humanity, and perhaps can in some ways even liberates us both.

My brothers - A sincere thanks for the critique of my writing and corrected spelling. I am working on being less convoluted:-)


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Mucho Gusto has it right . its always about the money , you might have a "special one" you see regularly , but they are always lining up the next one, they hold onto us for as long as the $ holds out .

if I was in ther shoes I would do the same , so all you guys that get dissapointed with the inevitable outcome , need to grow up , it"s a numbers game for them, the more "regulars " they have on the program the better the odds are that they will end up at the end of the month with more $ to show for there efforts.what girl wants to work the DR . ZB or any other place for a new pick up rather than have a" regular " Americano on the program, that is why if truth be known , it's smarter for them to have a "stable" of " regulars " to work than starting from scratch every night.

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if I was in ther shoes I would do the same , so all you guys that get dissapointed with the inevitable outcome , need to grow up , it"s a numbers game for them, the more "regulars " they have on the program the better the odds are that they will end up at the end of the month with more $ to show for there efforts.what girl wants to work the DR . ZB or any other place for a new pick up rather than have a" regular " Americano on the program, that is why if truth be known , it's smarter for them to have a "stable" of " regulars " to work than starting from scratch every night.

if it flies , fucks , or floats,,,,,,,rent it
I agree! They go to the highest overall bidder that they find acceptable. This works well for me because I am too cheap to ever be the highest bidder. This keeps me out of seroius trouble since I never want to keep any of them anyway. I like to leave the hard dirty nasty jobs to others. Take the best part & leave the heartbreaks to others :wink: . It has always been cheap entertainment to watch what the strange world of desires will make foolish lovers do :) :shock: !

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One thing I've noticed watching guys crash and burn with the DelRey debutantes is that the nicer and more generous a guy is- the more he's usually disrespected, used, lied to and viewed as a sucker and even ridiculed behind his back


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Also, I have had a number of girls tell me that they think that the gringos who buy them drinks/pay taxis etc, even when they are not taking them home are weak and soft. Instead of making friends you are actually sending a signal that you can be taken advantage of and will probably get charged more.


Damn - that is good to know and disturbing. I am a newbie with only one trip under my belt so far but I definitely need to toughen up a bit. :twisted: It is my nature to be polite, kind and generous but I guess it can be self-defeating in this environment. Come to think of it - it did not work well for me in marriage either. :shock: Thanks for the heads-up!!!!!!!!

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If you overpay or overtip you are thought of as "stupid" not "generous".

In Costa Rica there are only two types of bosses "Assholes" and "Idiots", you can pick what you want to be thought of by how nice you are.


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If you overpay or overtip you are thought of as "stupid" not "generous".

In Costa Rica there are only two types of bosses "Assholes" and "Idiots", you can pick what you want to be thought of by how nice you are.


I will continue to be polite and kind - just have to temper my generosity is all I meant. For my first trip I did not overspend but tipped well when the girl or girls were really exceptional. Perhaps overtipped a little by CR standards -but certainly not worthy of being called an asshole or an idiot by you or anyone else. :x :!:

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Going back to the original post 10 pages ago, my few cents.

Berk - "If one exchanges money for sex it's a business transaction void of love and affection."

Business transaction, of course. But if you get to know her a little, a friendship void of affection (and desire), not necessarily. These things are not mutually exclusive. Love, especially "true love", well that is something else again. I look for the maybe 5 - 10% of these working girls (higher % in many places in South Am. vs. Costa Rica) that actually are willing to open up and give real affection to their temporary companions. These are the ones I always remember and tend to maintain contact with, and they become the "favoritas" I look forward to getting together with again when I return to wherever they are - for more than just phucking sessions, but also dinner, trips to the zoo, dancing, hanging out, whatever. Basically they are ones on the opposite spectrum of the HDR Colombianas.

For these girls, I never use the word "novia". It helps keep clear in my mind what the nature of the relationship really is if there ever could be any doubt. They are not girls you commit to and think about marrying. If they try to push the "thing we have" in that direction, it's time to end it. The best ones are sweet fun-loving nice girls, and bad, naughty, horny, dishonest girls, all at the same time - just accept them as they are and enjoy :)

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If you overpay or overtip you are thought of as "stupid" not "generous".

In Costa Rica there are only two types of bosses "Assholes" and "Idiots", you can pick what you want to be thought of by how nice you are.



That has to be the most defetous thing said on this board :twisted: Who died and left you the CR rule maker. I have tipped and been thought of as a great guy by the ladies of the night in CR. And I am Damm proud of that statement 8)

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NYG wrote:
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If you overpay or overtip you are thought of as "stupid" not "generous".

In Costa Rica there are only two types of bosses "Assholes" and "Idiots", you can pick what you want to be thought of by how nice you are.



That has to be the most defetous thing said on this board :twisted: Who died and left you the CR rule maker. I have tipped and been thought of as a great guy by the ladies of the night in CR. And I am Damm proud of that statement 8)

NYG

Don't forget that he's telling us how the ladies think, not the way he thinks. Probably, at the beginning he, like most of us, was an over tipper too. Of course that they want your tips, the bigger the better, but don't you think that by giving a tip you're putting that person a couple of notches bellow you?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:48 pm 
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I am a newbie. Newbie to CR but have mongered in the Navy and as a contractor since 1978 in Africa (Kenya and Somalia), Asia (Thailand, RP, PRC, TW, JA, Singapore, HK, Malaysia, Australia and Mexico. They sell thmeselves for sex. Its a business deal. Most would not if they had a better deal. The more you tip, the more they "like" you. Don't get fooled being lonely and longing for the "like" part. The minute you stop paying them and stop tipping them the "like" fades away. I lived in PI and Taiwan for years at a time and was well "liked" when the fleet was not inport but when the Navy arrived, I was a cheapskate. I knew the deal and they know the deal. You are paying for a service. Play the game but know it is just a game. I had steady GFs overseas but see how long they stay when the $$$ fades. Thats the true test. Give it a try. Tell her you like her company but don't want to pay her or "help" her wih a "sick" relative. That the both of you should have a session cuz you like each other. I have gone from "endless Love KO" to "butterfly"in a heartbeat. Stay grounded and enjoy the fun or truely date a local with all the rituals that entails. I bet in the end you prefer the business side.


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