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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:50 pm 
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I was just talking to my tico friend of 5 years, and he said that the tico govt. is trying to pass a law banning prostitution all over the country. its being helped by the international feminist groups (feminazis)


he says they are really serious about passing this law.


is this true or false?

i dont think so but, i dont know this govt very well and im seeing alot hotels pushing towards the eco- tourists and families
less and less chica- friendly hotels adding extra fees for chicas , alot of raises in prices from 2 years ago, and they are have the same problem with immigrants as the USA does (just too many of them )
i hope these damn feminazi dont corrupt some of these politicians :evil:


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:22 pm 
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I was just talking to my tico friend of 5 years, and he said that the tico govt. is trying to pass a law banning prostitution all over the country. its being helped by the international feminist groups (feminazis)


he says they are really serious about passing this law.




Sounds like........WORD ON THE STREET..............

I not heard, read or saw any indication of such legislation. Realistically the legislature is so tied up over the CAFTA thing almost everything else is on the back burner.

The result of such legislation would result in such a body blow to the CR economy it would take a decade or more to recover. Even politicians are not that short sighted.

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One question: If that law passed how would all the single moms support themselves? because a majority of them are not getting their pensions paid by the Tico father.
That would be a huge blow to the government that would have to support all the single moms and their K*ds.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:21 pm 
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Irish Drifter wrote:
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Sounds like........WORD ON THE STREET..............

I not heard, read or saw any indication of such legislation. Realistically the legislature is so tied up over the CAFTA thing almost everything else is on the back burner.

The result of such legislation would result in such a body blow to the CR economy it would take a decade or more to recover. Even politicians are not that short sighted.


Irish Drifter wrote on May 31, 2007
That kind of buttresses the thinking that mongers are a very small percentage of the tourism market.

HDR 104 rooms x 365 nights = 37,960 room nights ./. 3 night average stay produces 12653 guests ./. 12 months = 1054 mongers a month out of 68,000 North American visitors each month. Less than 2% at the premier monger hotel in San Jose.


PacoLoco wrote on May 31, 2007
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Someone called? So out of that 68,000/month how many are guys hobbying? 10% seems way high looking at the number of guys we can spot on the plane, in the gulch, number of gulch hotel rooms etc.. My first guess is also 5% (3400) maybe a little more, that means 113 guys every day which at first sounds like a lot. Although if we look at SJO arrivals of 16 US based flights/day that would mean 7 mongers per flight which sounds about right based on my previous games of "spot the mongers" on every flight...
The last discussion seems pretty accurate BK, we don't really matter that much-
https://costaricaticas.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=14458



That 5% figure came up a few other times on the Board. Kind of makes you wonder if the impact would be all that dramatic eliminating P4P if revenues could be made up or exceeded with more family or ecology oriented tourism. It would definitely be rough on the girls as I can't imagine the new tourism producing enough jobs to provide for them and certainly not at the "cien" rate.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:06 pm 
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i think you need to double or triple the HDR rate,
because a number of us stay at the Presidente, Sleep Inn, SL, Holiday Inn, Courtyard, InterCont etc
while not strictly tourists, a number also have apartments,

I would also say that a very large percentage of the tourists are students, or hostel types, ie, on a strict budget, $50 per day?

so i think those of us coming here on 300-500/day budget have a huge impact
politicians seem to be very capable of sounding sympathetic & support of worthy moral causes, and somehow see to it the gravy train runs on schedule, if the trains do not


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The % of the tourism budget that would change isn't the only concern. It has been discussed before and a rough consensus was that mongers contribute maybe 5% of total tourism income. But the 5% that would go away would have a giant impact on the working girls and their families, as well as everybody else at the bottom of the food chain.

The labor force in C. R. is estimated to be a bit less than 2 million. It is also estimated that there are 9000 sex workers in San Jose. These girls seem to have an average of 2 K*ds each, minimum. So now we have 27 thousand who depend on the laissez-faire attitude towards prostitution. Add in boyfriends, mothers, fathers, sisters, cousins, blah blah blah and we have a pretty sizeable number of people who would be S. O. L. if it all went away magically tomorrow. The economy is bad enough here already. There will always be political posturing but I really doubt anybody in Don Oscar's circle of advisors seriously wants to stir up a hornet's nest like that.

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if you have probably noticed , some of the nicer hotel near the gulch are using strict dress code , hi chica fees ,etc where if i remember right didnt have them i place before.
Am i wrong?


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That certainly would help Colombia's tourism until we started demanding or paying them not to let women choose what to do with their body.

It's a real women's power issue. They demand the right to be allowed to kill unborn Babi*s or demand a man be responsible for monetary support of a baby, whichever suits them. They want control of at least half the money and all the pu*sy.


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Tinman33 wrote:
if you have probably noticed , some of the nicer hotel near the gulch are using strict dress code , hi chica fees ,etc where if i remember right didnt have them i place before.
Am i wrong?


Could you be a little more specific? Only hotels that I know that meet the criteria you have stated are The Presidente instituted a dress code and The Gran Hotel de Costa Rica became chica hostile about two years ago when new owners refurbished the property.

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While most of the CRT members mainly visit top end places, most of the sex workers in SJ are in smaller cheaper establishments that mainly cater to ticos. The government must remember that there are lots of domestic customers before changing the rules. My guess is that if they do something like this, they would try cracking down on places owned and frequented by foreigners but pay much less attention to local places. This could add a whole extra layer of graft for the functionaries to exploit. Just what CR needs.

When a first lady a few presidents ago tried to do something in this direction making bars close early and closing Key Largo, it lasted until Cerveceria Costaricense complained. It was soon back to normal.


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One question: If that law passed how would all the single moms support themselves? because a majority of them are not getting their pensions paid by the Tico father.
That would be a huge blow to the government that would have to support all the single moms and their K*ds.

We (USA) will probably just write em a check to create all kinds of social agencies and turn CR in to a welfare state. You know, the good ole "Midas touch" courtesy of Uncle Sam.

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This is a joke but somewhat serious: Making it illegal would also make it more dangerous and hence more pimps would crop up and then the end price would go up. So then the politicians would have to pay twice they pay their putas now, not going to happen. :lol:


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 4:32 pm 
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If womens groups have the power to persuade the goverment to ban prostution, then why hasn't it happened in, of all places the U.S., namely Nevada? My guess its about the revenue that is generated. In the case of Nevada its more regulated of course, but the state is still benefiting from it. There is a lot of money coming into Costa Rica, in a lot of forms, as a result of PFP. The avarage monger spends a lot more than any surfer or backpacker, of which there are many, and probably as much as some of the eco tourist familys coming to the country.


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As in all of Latin America. the sex industry in these countries was set up to serve the needs of the local population, not tourists. It existed in these places long before gringos discovered the fun.

We are just riding along like a fly on the tail of the bull.

You can go to small towns and rural areas where Amercans rarely go and see that the industry flourishes there, too.

The monger tourist dollar is a bonus, but a very small one. The industry will not be ended because of the impact it would have on the Ticos, not because of gringos.

We just aren't that important.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:25 pm 
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hey this what my friend said
i took it with a grain of salt
i like costa rica alot and the girls are one of many things i like about the country :twisted:
i was even considering buying a house there
just curious about what the forum thinks about it
thanks alot for opinions guys


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