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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 7:32 pm 
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Just back from a pretty awesome Trip #18, and wanted to relate a little story from the trip that I think provides some interesting insight into how some of these girls think.

Okay - first night in last Friday, myself, Mendo, and HolaB get together for an incredible home-cooked gourmet dinner and winefest up in the Penthouse at Sportsmens (BTW - my most gracious thanks to the hosts - it was awesome guys). My date for the evening was a sometime regular at Sportsmen's who calls herself "Andrea" - light brown-haired, very perky and energetic "Britney Spears lookalike". I had previously enjoyed a very hot 3-some with her and her then sidekick - dark-haired, silicone-enhanced Colombiana sometime pornstar Johana - a few months back, for which I paid each $60. In my book, whatever you pay a girl for an initial session pretty much sets the precedent for future ones, so I didn't bother pre-negotiating a price this time.

To cut to the chase, between the dinner and the ensuing session, all told it was about three hours. It had been a lot of fun, and I had no complaints in general about how the evening went. However, when it came time to pay the piper, I was told this time that she wanted cien.

Okay - for the amount of time spent and the quality of girl, this normally would not be unreasonable. But during the evening she had been feeding my head about all the things she wanted to do together outside of PFP, and if she really enjoyed my company that much, I figured she wouldn't be hardcore about money.

Disappointed, I reminded her what I had paid last time, and that I normally pay all the girls at Sportsmen's $60. She remembered, but said that time had been a "special deal" and she really needed $100 this night to pay her babysitter. Getting a little exasperated now, I finally told her okay - I'll give you $100 this time, but this will be the last session we do together.

Here's where it gets interesting. Rather than just taking the $100 and splitting without further adieu, she offers to come back the next afternoon at 3pm and do a session for $20 - making the two sessions average out to $60 each. I'm skeptical of course, but she tells me to trust her and does her little "pinky promise" thing to guarantee her sincerity. Convinced now that I feel better about things, she then takes the $100 and leaves.

Well, as one could have guessed, I waited around till an hour past the appointed time and - surprise - no Andrea and no messages explaining why. So now, instead of just appearing manipulative and greedy, she comes off as irresponsible and/or dishonest as well, and my opinion of her for wasting my time is a lot lower than it would have been if she had just left with the money.

Of course in CR you always have options, so I made a beeline for ZB and enjoyed an awesome 3-some with Gabriela and Angela, preceeded by Pamela sneaking into the room for a near-freebie while the girls were off at the cash register. So this little disappointment quickly became a distant memory.

But still you have to wonder why it was so important to her that I not be upset with her at the time when her later action in blowing off the session would only piss me off that much more. Enough in fact to post her pictures in VIP for anyone who's interested... :x 8)

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Sounds typical. :?


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Some people have a hard time with other's anger, and would do whatever they could to deflect having to deal with it direction. For some, it is also easier to save face and lie the to be honest and direct. American culture tends to me more direct and place a greater value on honestly then tact; Latino culture values tact and decorum more than honesty..total generalizations, and individual behavior varies...Now, get HER pissed, and it all goes out the window..

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Her loss not yours GR. She coulda had more than just cien in the long run but blew it with her greediness. Move on and forget about it.


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I don't think she's necessarily greedy. Who knows what her bills happen to be etc... . Nevertheless, if you're puttin' the ole sasuage to um' you can't trust um' in general. That's why you have got to spell everything up front. They hang with us for one reason and one reason only...... the dinero.

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Have to agree. I noticed with a couple of the girls I saw multiple times, when it came down to it, they only thought about getting the cien that night and didn't seem to care what the consequences were for the future. My 'good' Alejandra screwed herself out of a week worth of sessions because she was so adamant about getting paid for just going out to dinner :shock:

Course, the good ole NEXT worked out for me...found the jewel of the trip thanks to Alejandra's mistake 8)

Glad to hear about all the great times you had this past week GR. Your a scholar (of Ticas at least :wink: ) and a gentleman and deserve better than the load of s*** she dished out for you.



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Her loss not yours GR. She coulda had more than just cien in the long run but blew it with her greediness. Move on and forget about it.


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GetRythm,

After trip#4 in 6 months, my conclusion is that the mentality of a large percentage of these ladies is "Show Me The Money".

Yes we did provide for a nice dinner, wines that they will never understand or appreciate :shock: but just as importantly a very relaxed,comfortable atmosphere that I doubt they get to experience all to often.

Yet what they see is, Rich Gringo's that look and smell decent :wink: So the thought that hey they provided a nice dinner, etc doesn't enter their minds. Time is money, bottom line.

Are there ladies that would understand and appreciate a similar experience without putting us on the clock? I hope so, otherwise B will be cooking for the boys and the ladies will be brought in for the dessert course :wink:


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GR Thanks for sharing. It is typical & normal behavior for them. I have seen this so many times it not only doesn't even bother me anymore I expect it. One might think that since I have known one for a while & she knows that you are cool & clean about things that this would have some value to it. They are still women & even though they tend to be more logical than a gringa counter part mainly because it is there lively hood they still disappoint. The best way to keep from this disappointment is do what is right for you ALL THE TIME while counting on them for nothing but the deal directly at hand.

I tell you if these Chicas were truly more sophisticated we might all get ourselves in a lot more trouble than we do. This is what makes me happy that they are the way they are :D !

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Latino culture values tact and decorum more than honesty....
So true, if I only had 1000 colones for every time a chica promised me a future discount or freebie. :roll: But I never got a "pinky promise" GR so you must be special :lol: Yes it's all about the moment or today with them, most have no concern about future business or keeping any promises with us unless they think we are a fresh gringo newbie they can play along for a ride.
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If it happened to you it could happen to anybody. We have a tendency(after we know them) to let our guard down.Definitely a wake up call.Next time you run into her, still be a gentleman but treat her like a puta.


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GR.....I think you got confused with the "pinky" thing.Actually she was giving you her "middle" finger after taking the cien. Actually my interpretation of what happened is that after hustling you for the cien she realized that you were a well-known fixture at the SL scene and you would probably let your many friends know that you weren't happy with her,so she offered herself up for $20 for the next session. However in keeping with true Tica tradition she forgot about it the next day.


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GR- I'm glad you just pressed on to ZB and had a better time anyway. Besides, you dont really care do you? I wouldn't really either, but it does surprise me that she would pull this off at the SL. Those girls tend to try and keep a decent reputation so they get good word of mouth if thier regulars there.



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If it happened to you it could happen to anybody.

GR,
I agree with Mike321. If this happened to you, it could definitely happen to anyone. I was very surprised to read how your chica wanted more $$$. Especially since you've had (at least) some history with her. I think it would be easier to understand her mindset, if you were just some ham-n-egger on your 1st trip to CR. But she knows you from previous trips, and knows that you travel to CR regularly. Why would she want to jeopardize (inevitable) future earnings with you, over a lousy $20. ??? I’ll never understand that kind of thinking… :roll:

Again, this is one more example of how it is nearly impossible to figure out the “inner-workings” of these chica’s. I’ve always been a GFE kind of guy, versus a LAL guy. I enjoy finding a reasonably attractive chica, and if the sexo is good on the first go-round, I can always count on it getting better with each session. And I’ve been very fortunate from this angle. But, because of these types of things (like what just happened to you), I always make it perfectly clear about compensation beforehand, particularly when I plan on spending 2 or 3 days with her.

When it comes to these chica’s, I’ve learned that we can NEVER a-s-s-u-m-e anything, and I always try to lay everything on the table, before our 1st session of the weekend together. Sometimes it’s uncomfortable to talk about, especially when you’ve got some history with her, but it’s still necessary. And once that’s out of the way, the subject doesn’t come up again, and we enjoy a great time together.

So GR… what happens next? Will you address this issue with her the next time you see her? If so, how are you going to handle it? Whatever happens, I’m sure you’ll be very tactful and fair. Good luck, and thanks for sharing this.

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Well, I didn't mention it in the previous post, but I actually did see Andrea again hanging out with a guy at the Sportsmen's bar a few nights later. But I was having so much fun with Kristina - my date for the evening and major discovery of the trip from Krysis MP - that I really couldn't have cared less. I did at one point walk up to the bar simply to ask her what happened, for which she of course had no explanation. And if this little exchange happened to put a few doubts in the head of her intended score for the evening, so much the better.

And yes, it doesn't matter how long you've been around or what your success rate has been in the past - none of us are immune to being blown off for an appointment. In fact, as I posted last month in another thread, I always try to have a back-up plan now, even to the point of double-booking. Case in point - that particular night when I hooked up with Kristina, I had also arranged a date with an SL girl I saw the previous evening at the bar. Don't know her name, but she's a slightly Asian-looking, English-speaking Panamanian, who had committed to showing up at 6pm.

Well, 45 minutes went by and she hadn't shown, despite calling the hotel to say she was on her way. So I went to Plan B and by pre-arrangement called Kristina at Krysis, who met me as planned - and with whom I ended up having one of the most incredible mind-blowing experiences I've ever had in CR.

Like Zippy says, in the end you really need to "do what is right for you ALL THE TIME while counting on them for nothing but the deal directly at hand." In fact, I could have easily had the Panamanian the previous evening, but stayed committed to the favorita who had come by Sportsmen's to meet me. Noticing my interest in the other girl, she even offered to leave, but I decided to be a nice guy and hang with her - despite my strong feeling that things between us were played out by then.

This was proven conclusively two days later when she showed up unannounced at Sportsmen's and insisted on being paid off for some prior sessions that she felt I still owed her more money for. Okay, here's your cash - buena suerte.

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We should not be surprised at all... they are all PUTAS and that's how they make a living, sexo for dinero.

It's ALL about THE MONEY! 'nuff said.
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