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I am not directing this post against anyone as the cycle that I describe below has been witnessed by me at least 10 times in the little over a year that I have belonged to the board.

I have asked this question before and feel that I need to ask it again as the same situation keeps on playing out over and over again, but with different players; on the monger side anyways. It makes me feel like I am watching the movie Ground Hog Day with Bill Murray, as the same events happen over and over, until Phil figures out how to get it right.

The events always transpire as follows:

1)The neophyte monger takes one of their first trips to CR and proceeds to lose their mind at the Del Rey.

a. The commonly understood reasoning for this is the same as the K*D in the candy store; he has never had it so good.

2)They see beautiful women and proceed to hurl huge amounts of money at them:

a.My take on this is a little bit harsh: I am the big powerful American rich guy, you need me to take care of you and you should respect me. In reality the effect this has is that the women see you as being soft and possibly stupid, as in “a fool and his money are…”

b.The second part of this equation is the neophyte buys his new love dis, dat, and de other thing. Same dumb reason, I am the big “Impotent” American, blah, blah, blah.

3)The process they go through when falling in love with a working girl. I love this one, as there is normally a whole odyssey where the neophyte describes going on a journey of discovery about the Costa Rican people where they describe the following:

a. The humble state of the family hovel, I think they must all rent the same shack just for the purpose of showing it off to the neophytes.

b. The nice family members who were paraded in front of them, ditto with a. above

c. The way he proceeded to take them out to lunch, dinner

d. That they either bought them some food, clothes, toys etc.

e. The tearful goodbye.

4) The “transformation” the new love goes through. Normally this is along the lines of not working at the DR anymore, because the neophyte is either sending her money via Western Union or the funded ATM account, which is really swank status symbol that she can show off to the other chicas when she is “not working” at the Del Ray.

5)The plans for marriage that describe how the newly betrothed will come to the states, via the engagement visa or whatever it is called.

6) Someone points out that if the neophyte wants a real relationship, he should date a non-working girl. This advice is always summarily disregarded because:

a. The neophyte desires instant gratification

b. Finding and wooing a non-pro will require a lot of time, effort and
emotional investment and he is not emotionally mature enough to put in the time to study the language, hang out where nice girls hang out make multiple trips downrange to woo his nice girl and generally take things a lot slower than he would at the Del Rey.

c. The neophyte is so beaten down by the Gringa Centric USA, that he doesn’t think a nice girl would go for him. Trust me, they will.

5)The other shoe dropping via the following:

a. The RFM become too numerous as the chica wants to get as much as possible before she inevitably “kills the goose that is laying the golden egg”

b. The neophyte discovers he is being played by:

i.Finds out the girl is a bit lazy, dishonest, a drug user, or has a host of
other undesirable characteristics that make her unsuitable as a long term love.

ii. Discovering his chica is aghast,…still working at the Del Rey

iii. Has a Tico boyfriend or husband

iv. Has no intention of marrying him and going to the states

v. Can’t get a visa because she is/was a prostitute.

vi. Carries out something heinous against the neophyte, such as a robbery, swindle, assault, or paternity suit.

vii. All of the above.

6) Reality Sets in.

a. The guy either confesses all of this to the board and takes his licks or

b. He simply drops out of site.

7) Just like Phil Conners waking up on Ground Hog Day to the sound of “I got you babe”, the cycle repeats itself.

Has anyone seen or been party to any “relationship” with a Pro that has turned out any different? Of course this is all just my opinion......

Well there is another ending to the scenario that happens TB, -Monger marries chica. I know of several and just heard of 2 more "amigas" now off the market thanks to generous (or deluded) gringo novios. It is a never ending cycle and only time will tell about the married ones, there are some divorced HDR chicas working that used to be married to gringos. Odds for a happy long marriage are probably not too much worse than just marrying a normal girl.

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Living well is the best revenge
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwUtj_YnNoY

Maybe this will help the next love struck neophyte - it keeps things between the ditches and works for me.

When negotiating with the lady lay out on the table the following and in this order:

One 50 mil Viagra (be prepared to swallow it)
3 each $20.00 bills
One cigarette (if you smoke)

Tell her (nicely) when I eat the Viagra you got a deal and time to go to work.
When I am done you get the 3 each $20.00 bills
When I light the cigarette it is my signal to you that it is time for you to leave

A little harsh but it beats the neophyte approach.


Deek

And your standard of measure is?????????

Come on now, I am sure we can come up with one.

TB

An excellent analysis of many of the "neophyte's" monger trip to CR.

As a neophyte, I wondered why "your life will change" once you have been to CR, as many of the Vet's stated on this board prior to my trip.

After my first trip, did my life change? No! Did I have a great time, Hell yes!!

My times at the BM/KL were disaster. It was my fault for being too drunk and not pre-negotating. My bad. If I choose to return to CR, I have learned from those stupid mistakes. Upon my return to CR I will definately do better in this area. Neophyte's, and others, please listen to my mistakes in these two areas.

The good for me was staying at the SL. I enjoyed the ambience there and the staff, as Bill was a wonderful host. The CRT members that I met there were great guys. I met a lady there that treated me to a GFE (for a cost of course), which is what I was looking for. Was she a ten, no? Actually I have never seen her name mentioned on this board, and she only has one picture with clothes on. Most CRT vet's would probably not even give her a second look. I learned early in life that beautiful (10's) are not my style. It is rare when a ten performs like a seven, especially when I'm twice her age. She did not ask me for money or to go shopping, for her Babi*s, or any other reason. She did ask for my time during the day and for a TLN (for less than the dreaded Cien). She gave me an e-mail address which I have never used, nor has she e-mailed me. It was not a real life's experience anyway. I paid her for her acting skills.

My point is this! I got what I was looking for, no life changing experience but a nice lady to spend time, and have s*x with. I believe that we all get what we are looking for in CR, whether it is real or not. Those who neophyte's who find "love" on their first trip is exactly what they needed in their life at that moment. Was it real, probably not, but real to them at that time!! It is what they needed at that moment in their lives. No amount of our thoughts, or words, will change that perception.

The recent posts by RT has made me appreciate this board much more. The men on this board, while flip at times, really do care about, and try to support, each other. I appreciate that. It is not often enough in our world that men support men.

Thank you to all for your input and positive thoughts to those that you don't even know, including me.

Health, happiness and prosperity to you and yours in the New year!

Santas Bro

Well said Santas Bro. I am sure as RT was writing is trip report in the back of his mind he must have thought he was going to get a back lash of emails saying to stay away and do not get sucked into that relationship. I have to admit I sent him an email saying, if that is something he really wants why not take the time to get to know her and family and see where it goes. Nobody else feels RT's pleasure or pain. So, who are we to judge? I agree advice is the sometimes the best thing to give to someone in life. It is great to see the positive comments members leave to other members on here. But in reality doesn't one do want they want anyway? Our biggest mistakes/regrets are the things that we wanted at that exact time in our lives. If anyone finds love in CR good for them, but can you do me one favor? Send me a wedding invitation, so I can have another excuse to get down there.

Be well.

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"It don't make you a bad person"

Excellent post Tim. Your analogy of the Groundhog is doubly appropriate because like the Groundhog,some guys have their heads stuck in the sand.I have found through many tries that it is almost impossible to help these guys. I invented the VB cure to help the lovestruck ones. This is that as soon as a guy feels the symptoms coming on,he should immediately phuck 5 more chicas.If you still have feelings for her,then phuck her once more then repeat the process.

Maybe the new theme song for CRT should be from the Beetles , "Money can't buy me love"

Timbo,

A lot of truth in your post. I must admit, I was very much that way during my initial trips; it comes naturally with a lack of experience. I'm wiser now.

Zebra

Thanks for the props; the point has been made in the past and I begrudge no one the right to pursue happiness. I just think that if they are a relatively young guy, with at least decent looks, and some skill in Spanish, they can probably find better long term chances outside the gulch, with a regular chica. I always think back to the six month stint I had in CR (that only exists as a faint memory in ancient history) and the 2 or 3 nice girls I knew. I am somewhat dissappointed that I didn't stay in touch with one of them. As for the pros, I think that only one of the guys that I knew was hanging with (a married guy) ended up romancing a pro and last I heard, she called my house trying to track him down, as she was apparently pregnant; yikes! Anyway, as always, I wish RT luck with his endeavor, his mileage may vary.

YO TimB:

While what you posted is true and points out a repetitious type of occurance, you must also realize that most newbies to CR and other countries want to vent and tell their newly described adventure.....what else is new. Remember, no matter what someone reads about other gringos and their sad tales, when it hits them it is mostly different in their own minds.

I seldom read trip reports anymore unless it is someone I know well. Some of us hombres who have been around this and other venues for a number of years no longer look at CR through other eyes.....been there and done that.

Remember fellows, CR as well as other mongering destiations south of the border are best to be conceived as Famtasy land. Enjoy but do not take it all that seriously.

I remember the excited look and anticipation of Richard Benjamin along with the "macho character" James Brolin on their trip to "Westworld" and the unknowing pitfalls that would soon affront them there.....where nothing could possibly go wrong, wrong, wrong. Shit happens.

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Damn if I'm going to repeat this shit again. I need a drink.
I've been drinking vodka every day for 45 years and I have certainly never found it to be habit forming.

No doubt, RollTide will continue his "Pursuit of Happyness." I hope he succeeds, but my guess is he will encounter a lot of financial loss and heartache along the way.

True enough, for me there is a little bit of novelty in walking into the DR for the 1st time on a trip, but after the 1st day, the novelty is pretty much gone. I have a buddy coming down with me on the next trip, but he has been to Bangkok before, and is an old cynical New Englander like me, so I doubt he will have any problems.

TB,

It is hard to believe what you posted is SO TRUE & happens with way too much frequency. If men had problems with women in the USA of being used & abused it will only be worse in CR but at least they will have a good looking female that puts out .

What is the most pathetic of all too me of what I have seen or heard is when some "Lady of the nite" hands me her cell phone with a big smile laughing & asks me to translate all these messages. As I am listing to 10 or more different drunk groggy voices confessing their unconditional LOVE for this Puta & by the way letting her know that he has sent $$$$$ & it should get be there blah, blah, f---ing BLAH, all the while the "Lady of the nite" is laughing at the power of her pu$$y has had on this poor lonely guys brain! It is just sad men have reduced themselves to this level & obvious are struggling with everything . Sad world for many, thank God we see a different light.

There is a VERY IMPORTANT reason women have a term for them in every language like Puta or Whore. It is because it carries behavioral traits that are generally accepted as less than desirable.

You always mention this one Tica that you wish you would have kept. Have you looked into where she is now ?

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Spunk glazed Chicas are the building blocks of the universe!

'I learned early in life that beautiful (10's) are not my style. It is rare when a ten performs like a seven, especially when I'm twice her age.'

I second this comment. 10's are nice to look at, that's about it.

Zippy makes an excellent point. I just as us practicing alcoholics sometimes have a moment of clarity, I just had a brainstorm: To wit; American men give away power at every opportunity. It is like giving away, money, your life force, whatever you want to call it. When you give it away too cheaply, you are just being stupid.

I think it is conditioning. In the states, the Gringa-tutions exists to rob us of power and yet when we go to a place free of that and we tend to set it up ourselves, by paying too much or otherwise being pussified.

Look elsewhere in the world were guys do it right. I say when in Rome.....