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I have been asked,or told,by Buzzfla here that I have never stayed at the Sleep Inn. This is correct.I have no need to stay in a Hotel in the Gultch since I live here. However my knowledge of the chica fees at the Sleep Inn is from when they first opened. Trying to negotiate something for CRT I talked to the General Manager and the group sales manager about either a discount of waiving the chicas fees which they informed me would be either $25 or $30 once the decided for sure. They basically told me that they weren't interested in our business. I posted this when they first opened. I don't think it's a good idea to thrpw the issue into their faces at this time as it may screw it up for guys who are staying there and not pauing a chica fee currently. If anyone were to speak to them,it should be Admin. 1 at this point.

I'm all for Admin to engage in a discussion with the hotel.

I have stayed at the Sleep Inn and had no chica fees. I do know that they do not want a lot of guys staying there and turning the place into a brothel.
The last time I was there they asked 2 guys from Atlanta to leave and they were charged the fees. They were loud, abusive and generally a pain to all guests, that is why they were charged.
I like the policy this way. I treat the hotel with respect and in return I have no guest charges or problems.

VB et al,
Please note I said "someone officially with CRT". By that I didn't mean the members, even as an austere a VIP member as yourself. I meant the Admin. I recall your posts relaying the results of your previous investigation, but apparently more recently they aren't as rigidly against guys bringing chicas to the hotel or even charging those guys heavily for the priveledge as they were when they first started out. So it might warrant another overture.

However, I'll admit that your point about not "rocking the boat" for the guys that are getting away with this is a valid concern. If not top management, then at least somebody in some position of authority must already be aware of the fact that chica fees aren't always being charged. Perhaps it is only the night desk clerk. Perhaps these guys are managing it by sneaking their chicas in. But while they may be acting discretely, it doesn't sound like they have to go to really great lengths to hide it. So whoever is in charge while these girls are being brought in should probably be the first person to approach. He may say as you have that its all done with a nod and a wink and that it would be better if it wasn't highlighted to top management. But it couldn't hurt to start at that level since that person is already aware of the loosely applied restrictions. OTOH, he may tell you that top management would be open to a more explicit policy as long as the guests continued to act discretely and behave responsibly.

The way I'd approach him, if it were me, would be to say: you don't want to encourage monger guests, okay, but you don't want to shoo them away either as long as it doesn't impact your other guests. We aren't suggesting any special room rate discounts over what anyone else is already getting, though that would be nice and something we might work towards in the future. We're only talking about either dropping the special chica fees, that obviously other guests aren't paying, or eliminating them altogether so as not to indiscriminately preclude guys who are into that sort of thing from wanting to stay at their hotel. After all, evidentally they're already doing this in some cases anyway. We're only talking about clarifying the existing unofficial policy they already seem to have.

I'd also point out the desirability of not ignoring the CRT market segment for a variety of reasons. First of all, we represent nearly 8400 registered users. Many of us are regular rather than one time visitors to CR and we spend nearly all our time in SJ and in the Gulch. The average tourist does not do repeat visits and if they visit SJ at all do not spend most of their time in CR there. Many CRTers are also active on other CR boards where because of their greater familiarity with CR are also vocal spokesman and trendsetters among the larger tourist market. Mongers as a group are probably also more apt to spend money in their casino and bar than regular tourists and that is probably where they make the highest margin. And last but not least, while there is always good and bad within any group, CRTers as a whole proudly subscribe to a higher standard of conduct than the typical monger tourist. We pride ourselves on treating with respect, each other, our chica friends, our tico hosts and CR in general. If they gave us a half a chance they'd get to see this for themselves. Of course, we'd have to deliver by how we behaved as hotel guests or we'd lose as a group any concessions they might decide to test us with.

Here is what I'd suggest. Chica dress code? No problem, the Presidente already has a similar policy. If a monger doesn't want to comply with that, he doesn't have to stay at the Sleep Inn and shouldn't. If a guy brings back a chica between 10PM-5AM when most other guests have already retired for the evening AND she conforms with the "Prez.-type" dress code AND the monger and chica refrain from any blatant public displays of affection (PDA's) while in the public areas of the hotel or loud behavior AND presents a CRT VIP card, then they could waive their standard chica fee. The card part is essential because we wouldn't want to have this privelege taken away because of the bad behavior of some other monger purporting to be a CRT'er (remember we're assuring them we're a special group). The time restriction may seem undesirable to us but remember this is an opening compromise to get our foot in the door. The less we ask for the more likely we are to get it. Besides, I don't know about others but those hours cover probably at least 90% of the time I bring chicas back to my room. Also, this would not preclude the manager from waiving the fee at other times of the day too, providing the monger were behaving discretely and responsibly. Ultimately it still comes down to the manager's discretion since there is a somewhat subjective dress code involved but at least this would clarify a little better what are the repsonsibilities and obligations on all sides.

If they tried this and it didn't work, they could always go back to the way they're doing it now. If it does work and mongers are discrete, they won't be overrun by mongers since many will find the restrictions still too severe, but they wouldn't want those guys as guests, and the ones they get won't negatively impact the rest of their guests anyway. And if it really works out well and they discover there is a lot of rooms that they can fill with responsible well-behaved mongers they may be more willing to relax the restrictions further or offer us special discounts to attract even more of us.

Prolijo..most of what you suggested is what I said when they first opened. We are also making some pretty definitive suggestions based on one or two guys who have talked to a low level employee. I can tell you for a fact that Shelby,who owns the casino and is the majority shareholder of the hotel, is not exactly monger and puta friendly. The best anyone can hope for here is some level of tolerance to our lifestyle,but certainly not encouragement. I suggest that we either forget the discussions with management and not "rock the boat" or have Admin 1 have a tasteful discussion with a higher level employee. Most of you probably remember how unsuccessful the well-meaning members were when the whole fiasco with the dress code at the Presidente was going on.

On Saturday with no mention of CRT I discretely walked over to the Sleep Inn inquired about rates etc as if I was simply considering being a guest at their hotel.

I asked regarding their guest policy and was informed that unless she is booked in as a double occupancy which I assume means she is there for the duration of your stay, then the fee is $25.00 per Guest (Chica)

They were very nice but I asked again with no mention of CRT if they would waive they fee and Was given a firm . I even intimated sort of a even if I take care of you type of situation, and again,

Well either I'm poor at negotiations or what has been written regarding waiving guest fees is an isolated incident or those persons have a working relationship with the mgt at the hotel. From my INVESTIGATION ONLY their policy has not changed one Iota.

Hope that clears things up and if anyone else has an expierience such as the above please share.

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Well, there you go......."right from the horse's mouth."

Hmmm Don't want to call anyone out here, but its very strange that the two persons stating they have no chica fees at the the hotel Sleep Inn, both post from the Same IP address.. which also matches another poster on this forum.

Either these 3 guys live together and all stay at the Sleep Inn or someone has 3 Screen Names.. Hmmmmm

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RBC100 already called out two if those identities in another thread, funny they both had the same opinion of the Pirate club too. https://costaricaticas.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=120639

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My friend John is staying there now and he said he just walks to the elevator with the girl and up to the room like they are both registered. No one has stopped him or asked him anything in five nights and eight girls. so act like you belong there and no one will ask anything. Go to the front desk and pay the fee if that makes you happy

...and they replied back saying that it would be $25/fee.

I will try to negotiate something when I arrive on November 9.

A lot of us have Choice Hotel points that we would use.I can agree with others about being discreet.We may tell them, us who travel for work, may choose NOT to stay at Choice hotels in the states.Chice hotels are Quality Inn,Quality Suites,Comfort Inn,Comfort Suites.Sleep Inn and Main Stay suites.I have enough points for about 3 weeks of free nights.I will sent a letter to Choice main office.In the states I pay for about 75 guys to stay over night around 200 nights a year.And my guys all get seperate rooms.I think I may get a answer soon.I will report back.Dale Ray

I have around a month worth or free rooms at choice hotels as well. I imagine that if you are getting a free room they are not going to bill you for the chica. I may be wrong but I am going to try it next week when I'm in town.

Dale - any further info on Choice Hotels? I just found out that I am booked at the Comfort Inn and Suites(don't even know which part of SJ it's in).