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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:38 pm 
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In anohter thread, Zippy made this point...
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Just another reason to not stay in contact with them at all.

I am searching for a reason myself. I have had email addresses and phone numbers written on that little pad of paper next to the bed. Some I threw away, and some I used.

Now in one case, it was nice to arrange more than bed time - a nice dinner experience in a foreign country. And another expressed interest in going to the opera - but she shot that down with her RFM.

I recently emailed two ticas with my bisexual encounter scenario, complete with dates. Admittedly it's next month, but I have not had a reply from either one. Likely most of them have bagging a rich gringo in mind at some level, or at least to have a positive RFM reply. My emails to them, stating that I am bringing a gringa with me, obviously did not fire their imagination, and very likely made it clear that I was not open to being bagged.

It speaks to the ultimate difference of the cross-purposes of the gringo-chica dance. We want good, cheap sex. They want not only the negotiated money, but hopes of some fruitful RFM's, and possibly nailing down a gringo. (You can see this in several recent threads.) The important point is that the negotiated money may, for many, actually be inadequate. They need to feel there is the chance for more.

I suppose the only reason to stay in touch is if you are looking for a dinner, opera, theater or beach companion. Otherwise, not much point, but lots of risk, at least of wasted time. However, I am sure some would do it just for the ego stroking.

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You're right on. Planning things in advance with the DR chicas is pure folly. They pretty much "all" have an agenda. Going to the opera with a Gringo for a "reduced" rate isn't part of that agenda. With all due respect,the "experienced" ones have been through the routine more times than you have been laid in your lifetime. (and they are a lot younger) They have sveral different ways to extract dinero from a Gringo. These ways vary from sex for an hour,RFMs,novio routine,marraige depending on what the "scam of the week is" not necessarily who the Gringo is. My best advice is to "take it for what it is" Enjoy the chicas when you are here for the best rate you can. When you return,you can contact the ones that you previously enjoyed and try to recreate the experience. Anything beyond that....FORGET IT.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 2:56 pm 
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Vegas Bob wrote:
When you return,you can contact the ones that you previously enjoyed and try to recreate the experience. Anything beyond that....FORGET IT.

Can't say that even that is worth the effort. After two GFE evenings in a row with Angel, I felt like a starving man, and had to do two chicas the next night to "cleanse the palette." :lol: Maybe she sensed that, since the RFM came after that trip.

Arranging the dinner with Elana was nice, but not something I would do again soon - but I have not been to the opera yet! The wonderful thing about CR is the variety of the experience, which is against the idea of repeats. (I even have two ladies that want to be my wingwoman to molest the ticas. :wink: )

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I suppose the only reason to stay in touch is if you are looking for a dinner, opera, theater or beach companion. Otherwise, not much point, but lots of risk, at least of wasted time. However, I am sure some would do it just for the ego stroking.
I tell you guys VB has got this stuff down :lol: ! I have found in paddling my little canoe down the different forks in the stream & exploring the different possibilities ended up with me paddling as fast as I could to get back to my point of origin :? just by MYSELF throwing the chicas back in the river where I found them :twisted: .

Returning back to a chica after much time has passed that sees so many men & trying to recapture some BS you have created in your wild imagination is NUTS! I know as I have tried this :? . Why oh why do men start barking up the wrong tree. Think about what you are saying by taking them to dinner & theater etc. You know what it tells me is you can’t find a real date :shock: ?? If the later is true then I understand doing this :oops: (well I over dramatized this to make my point :lol: ). I guess I don’t understand this part about men. I have never paid by the hour or meter anyway to take someone out on the town so I wasn’t lonely??? I don’t mind cutting through the chase for the sexual release by paying for this directly but the rest why not find a real date? To each his own always.

The biggest problem I see with paying to drag putas around with us as a real date is this. It all starts out innocent enough only to find out you start to unrealistically rationalize that this women is just as human as the rest. Well she is physically but she has made a different decision mentally to sell herself direct for $$. So obvious she has that far away $$ stare to her eyes. This type of action starts to break down the stone wall you need to be able to maintain between the 2 parties as anything else is TOTAL INSANITY at best.

Most Gulch Chicas (Gulchitas) are totally unreliable compared to regular responsible Latinas, Big Surprise right :lol: ! So why fight this disappointment issue by trying to arrange a paid date of all things?? If you want company for dinner & do not have time to find a normal friend go out & find one early working P4P gals :wink: . This is far more reliable than the other frustrations you will inevitably find. These women see far too many men & are totally distorted mentally about a real life.

I bet if you did a survey on staying in contact 90% or more regret it or pay some price that is not worth it in the end so why try & beat these odds. Most men I feel including myself have kept up some communication at some time out of our own insecurity of the need of wanting to be wanted. They will tell you what you want to hear if that makes you feel better but be ready to pay for it. This is just too embarrassing for me to deal with. Something to do with my stubborn pride. So sometimes it PAYS to be stubborn.

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But Zippy, my situation is different, she really likes me and likes spending time with me...haha


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Thirdworld,

I forgot about that one being different :shock: :shock: :shock: . Oh well what is the difference they all turn out the same when the music is over :twisted: . It is a nice option to use each other at a fair price & be honest about it. Hey I rather pay for a date with a nice puta than to go out on a Parcheesi date to KFC with this wide Gringa load even if she paid me. I have seen some Gringos that looked like this beast out with a good looking puta . Now tell me she did not earn every last penny :lol: :lol: :lol: .

http://orlando.craigslist.org/w4m/203817401.html

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I suppose the only reason to stay in touch is if you are looking for a dinner, opera, theater or beach companion. Otherwise, not much point, but lots of risk, at least of wasted time. However, I am sure some would do it just for the ego stroking.
I tell you guys VB has got this stuff down :lol: ! I have found in paddling my little canoe down the different forks in the stream & exploring the different possibilities ended up with me paddling as fast as I could to get back to my point of origin :? just by MYSELF throwing the chicas back in the river where I found them :twisted: .

Returning back to a chica after much time has passed that sees so many men & trying to recapture some BS you have created in your wild imagination is NUTS! I know as I have tried this :? . Why oh why do men start barking up the wrong tree. Think about what you are saying by taking them to dinner & theater etc. You know what it tells me is you can’t find a real date :shock: ?? If the later is true then I understand doing this :oops: (well I over dramatized this to make my point :lol: ). I guess I don’t understand this part about men. I have never paid by the hour or meter anyway to take someone out on the town so I wasn’t lonely??? I don’t mind cutting through the chase for the sexual release by paying for this directly but the rest why not find a real date? To each his own always.

The biggest problem I see with paying to drag putas around with us as a real date is this. It all starts out innocent enough only to find out you start to unrealistically rationalize that this women is just as human as the rest. Well she is physically but she has made a different decision mentally to sell herself direct for $$. So obvious she has that far away $$ stare to her eyes. This type of action starts to break down the stone wall you need to be able to maintain between the 2 parties as anything else is TOTAL INSANITY at best.

Most Gulch Chicas (Gulchitas) are totally unreliable compared to regular responsible Latinas, Big Surprise right :lol: ! So why fight this disappointment issue by trying to arrange a paid date of all things?? If you want company for dinner & do not have time to find a normal friend go out & find one early working P4P gals :wink: . This is far more reliable than the other frustrations you will inevitably find. These women see far too many men & are totally distorted mentally about a real life.

I bet if you did a survey on staying in contact 90% or more regret it or pay some price that is not worth it in the end so why try & beat these odds. Most men I feel including myself have kept up some communication at some time out of our own insecurity of the need of wanting to be wanted. They will tell you what you want to hear if that makes you feel better but be ready to pay for it. This is just too embarrassing for me to deal with. Something to do with my stubborn pride. So sometimes it PAYS to be stubborn.

Well, Zip, if it's that easy to pick out chicas that want to go t the opera or theater, or that are not a HUGE risk taking to the beach for several days, please advise the technique! These are the activities you cannot do with any 'ole little thing you find at the BM, unless I have missed something, and VB has been holding out on me big time. (I doubt it, because he bought the drink.)

It took calling Elana on a subsequent trip, and the day before, to set up the dinner date evening. Please explain how you do that without previous contact, and without the previous day's notice (requiring a phone number). In fact, when Elana told me she no longer had email, I was surprised. But now I see that for responsible contact, phone is best. It allows you to schedule a date, and to call if you are running late. Email is only really good for flirting and RFMs, which ultimately have no value.

Hey, I started this thread to highlight and agree with your advice, but as in most things, it's the exception that makes the rule. True, if you don't care to have a local show you the town, that's up to you. And if you can risk taking any little thing for a few days to the beach, that's up to you, too. As for "paying for it," let me just say that I seem to get enough social time gratis. Usually with a reasonable P4P end to the evening, or to start in the afternoon, the ticas will be more than happy go along for the ride, paricuarly if they get to call the shots for location. But I know for sure, YMMV!!!!

Another CRT member tried to copy my "courtesan" action, and got price-walked big time. If you approach it like haggling for a deal on buying a new set of tires, you have screwed only yourself. If you treat them right, and with respect (presuming you have picked one who deserves it), you buy one tire, and they will throw in the other three for free. :wink:

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:31 am 
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Vegas Bob wrote:
You're right on. Planning things in advance with the DR chicas is pure folly. They pretty much "all" have an agenda. Going to the opera with a Gringo for a "reduced" rate isn't part of that agenda. With all due respect,the "experienced" ones have been through the routine more times than you have been laid in your lifetime. (and they are a lot younger) They have sveral different ways to extract dinero from a Gringo. These ways vary from sex for an hour,RFMs,novio routine,marraige depending on what the "scam of the week is" not necessarily who the Gringo is. My best advice is to "take it for what it is" Enjoy the chicas when you are here for the best rate you can. When you return,you can contact the ones that you previously enjoyed and try to recreate the experience. Anything beyond that....FORGET IT.




The above quote should be required reading ..........................

and every time you feel like your some Dr Girls special man - read this again

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:09 pm 
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Humm… well I have one chica I stay in contact with by both e-mail and phone. I enjoy knowing when I am in town I can count on having an enjoyable experience with a tried and true provider. I have several “non-working” girls I’ve meet by e-mail. They help with information I need for my trips without those RFM…..

Now as for the RMF…. If you have someone your really enjoy consider it a retainer fee. She will be there when and if you want. I personal enjoy sampling new chicas each trip…but I do save a day or two for repeats or when I want take out for a trip.

Make a loose plan and enjoy….do your thing….its your trip and your money!!!


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So many chicas. So little time.


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When I recieved a RFM from my fav Colombiana, it wasn't for her, it was for her sick mother :shock: :shock: She only wanted money to buy medicine for mom :shock: Such an unselfish chica :?:


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When I recieved a RFM from my fav Colombiana, it wasn't for her, it was for her sick mother :shock: :shock: She only wanted money to buy medicine for mom :shock: Such an unselfish chica :?:

Sounds like a keeper. :lol: Tell her you have a discount card and will ship the Rx's directly to her. :wink:

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I enjoy knowing when I am in town I can count on having an enjoyable experience with a tried and true provider.

Now as for the RMF…. If you have someone your really enjoy consider it a retainer fee. She will be there when and if you want. I personal enjoy sampling new chicas each trip…but I do save a day or two for repeats or when I want take out for a trip.

You must have a desire for repeats more than me. While there are some bumps on th chica road, it's all fun if you have the right attitude.

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Take it from someone with experience, VB is right! Trying to prearrange a date with a DR chica is like trying to send a crack addict with your money to a retaurant for take out...........you will probaly go without dinner. :o

The odds are probably around hitting a four team parlay on monday night, that one will come thru......but there are some that will surprise you! JMHO! :P

Most of them live for the moment...that is the dollar moment in front of them! Do I sound cynical...........Hell No! It's called wake up and smell the coffee! It is realistic! :shock:

But...............you can run across one that will make your dreams come true for the moment! The day, the night, the week! :P That is the beauty of it!

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While I agree with most of what has been said, I don't agree with it all. I met a Very Nice Tica Lady on my last trip to SJO. She is a University student who fits HDR a few days a week into her schedule to help pay the bills. So with her busy schedule, trying to find some common time during my visit would be great and she knows that I will be generous for the time she elects to spend with me. I had a GREAT time with her, and while I am not willing to give-up on latina variety, I would like to see her again for more than just a romp. So I don't agree with the pay for a date mentality. Afterall, it is not as easy for one to get a date while travelling in a foreign country unless one is wired into the network and established. An my preference is always to share a meal with a pretty lady when possible.

With all that said, My friend gave me her email and local phone number. Unfortunately, the email rejected. Not sure if she wrote it down wrong or it was an intentional diversion. But when I arrive in SJO next time, I will give her a ring. If that number does not connect with her, then I guess I will have my answer and move on. Next!!!!!!!!

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