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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:59 pm 
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Bush to sign bill to prevent Internet gambling
Mon Oct 2, 10:21 AM ET

WASHINGTON (AFP) - US President George W. Bush this week is expected to sign a bill making it harder to place bets on the Internet, a practice which already is illegal in the United States.

Bush was expected to act quickly after Congress approved the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act making it illegal for financial institutions and credit card companies to process payments to settle Internet bets. It also created stiff penalties for online wagers.

Billions of dollars are wagered online each year and the United States is considered the biggest market.

"It is extraordinary how many American families have been touched by large losses from Internet gambling," said US Representative Jim Leach (news, bio, voting record), the bill's main sponsor in the House, in a statement after its passage early Saturday.

The bill's chief Senate sponsor was conservative Republican Jon Kyl, who, like Leach, has said he believed Internet gambling was a moral threat. He has called online betting as the Internet version of crack cocaine.

"Gambling can be highly addictive, especially when its done over an unregulated environment such as the Internet" he said this year.

"If Congress had not acted, gamblers would soon be able to place bets not just from home computers, but from their cell phones while they drive home from work or their Blackberries as they wait in line at the movies," Leach said.

The US Treasury Department and the Federal Reserve Board will jointly develop implementing rules for the new law, while financial institutions have nine months to incorporate its provision.

Leach cited research which showed that young people who tend to spend hours of leisure time on the Internet, are particularly vulnerable.

A 2005 survey by the University of Pennsylvania's Annenberg Public Policy Center found that 26 percent of male college students gamble in online card games at least once a month, while nearly 10 percent of all college students gambled online at some point last year.

"Never has it been so easy to lose so much money so quickly at such a young age. The casino is in effect brought to the home, office and college dorm.

"Ch*ldren may play without verification, and betting with a credit card can undercut a players perception of the value of cash, which too easily leads to bankruptcy and crime," Leach said.

Experts said the vast majority of bettors are placing wagers on poker.

"Everyone loses if this industry continues its remarkable growth trends," Leach said.

Republicans tucked the measure into a bill aimed at enhancing port security, which passed early Saturday.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:06 pm 
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Congratulations to the European Union countries and Caribbean island countries that will now have a monopoly on online gaming...while the US once again will spend BILLIONS of dollars trying to police every american who wants to gamble online...or anywhere.

How a govt can blanketly outlaw activity for it's citizens that are allowed in certain states (Nevada), cities, California poker rooms and Indian reservations and be constitutional is beyone me.

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Various forms of online gambling are legal and regulated in many countries, including most members of the European Union and several nations in and around the Caribbean Sea.

The government of the island nation of Antigua and Barbuda, which licenses Internet gambling entities, made a complaint to the World Trade Organization about the U.S. government's actions to impede online gaming. The Caribbean country won the preliminary ruling but WTO's appeals body somewhat narrowed that favorable ruling in April, 2005. The appeals decision held that various state laws argued by Antigua to be contrary to WTO agreements were not sufficiently discussed during the course of the proceedings to be properly assessed by the panel. However, the appeals panel also ruled that the Wire Act and two other federal statutes prohibiting the provision of gambling services from Antigua to the United States violated the WTO's General Agreement on Trade in Services, or "GATS". Although the United States convinced the appeals panel that these laws were "necessary" to protect public health and morals, the asserted United States defence on these grounds was ultimately rejected because its laws relating to remote gambling on horse-racing were not applied equally to foreign and domestic online betting companies, and thus the United States could not establish that its laws were non-discriminatory. Although the Dispute Settlement Body of the WTO recommended that the United States bring the three federal laws into compliance with the GATS, as of the fall of 2006 the United States and Antigua disagreed on the status of the United States' compliance. The dispute has recently been referred back to a WTO panel to assess the status of compliance. [14]


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Incredible. The Indian reservations make billions off gambling. What about the state lotteries? Isn't that gambling? As far as the threat to
prosecute online gamblers...I don't give a f*ck...let them come after me.
I've wagered online since 2001, and never had a problem. I deal with a company in the Caribbean. I certainly don't intend to stop. Remember Prohibition? That was a massive failure, with a huge underground
business. The government is upset because they are losing all the possible tax revenue from the online gambling activity. Our politicians have their heads so far up their asses, it's ridiculous. Like I stated before, if I could afford it, I would have been out of the US around five years ago!

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And that is why we are hated worldwide. Not the propoganda: "They hate us because of our way of life." Bullshit. They hate us because we stick our arrogant noses in everybody elses business.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:57 am 
bush had an incredible week signed into law a bill that banned online gambling and signed into law a bill that legalized torture.

What a country the USA has become.


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Since we are on the subject of how "wonderful" the USA has become,how about the Church group from Kansas that plans to picket and demonstrate at the funerals of the 5 dead Amish Ch*ldren that were murdered by yet another sick pedophile. They did the same thing at the funerals of some soldiers that were killed in Iraq. (they carried signs that said "God hates you and the such)It seems that Gov.Randell of Pa. said something that they didn't like so they are getting even with him. I'm not sure if this is a sad commentary on the rights of people in the USA or the state of religion in the World. I wonder what would happen if they tried this here in CR where human rights aren't what they are in the States.


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Additional viewpoint on the new law. Open your NETteller account, and keep playing online...and join the poker players alliance effort if you care about your freedoms in this area...

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker_news/ne ... =PokerNews

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What's NOT Included in Anti-Gaming Legislation
A Legal Perspective

This weekend, just before Congress recessed, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-TN) finally snuck the mildest form of the antigaming legislation into an unrelated bill. The Safe Port Act provides $3.4 billion for U.S. port security and attached to that bill is a section making unlawful for banks to send money to Internet gambling sites or their intermediaries.

The bill passed both the House and Senate, meaning that it only awaits the president’s signature before becoming law.

Do not panic. First and foremost, this bill does not criminalize playing poker. In fact, the bill does not speak to the poker player at all.

After 10 years, Congress finally passed something relating to online gaming. The bill basically makes it more difficult for players to put their money into an offshore site. However, these sites are not just going to walk away from a $12 billion-a-year industry. Since the gambling businesses are beyond the hold of U.S. laws, when one funding source is blocked, they will open another.

Next, most banks and credit card companies already refuse to send money to offshore sites. Therefore, there are already offshore third-party companies in place that are more than happy to handle our financial transactions. The bill attempts to forbid financial institutions from sending money to intermediaries as well.

However, the government cannot stop its citizens from sending money out of the country for legitimate purposes. For example, if I want to buy a widget offshore, the Constitution protects my right to do so. As long as there is a third party, not involved in gaming, I am permitted to place my money in that receptacle from a US financial institution and then spend it. Once my money goes to NETeller, I can buy a watch, or pay for a trip. Because there are legally allowable things that can be done after sending the money to NETeller, the government cannot tell my bank not to send my money there. Our Constitution protects one's personal right to send money from a U.S. bank or financial institution to a business outside of the United States.

The company I mentioned is the popular NETeller. Others will soon appear on the horizon. NETeller happens to be a publicly traded company on the London AIM Exchange with a user base of more than 2.3 million customers. More than 1,700 online merchants accept payments through the NETeller system, and most of those companies are not gaming sites. With corporate headquarters in the Isle of Man, the company processes billions of dollars yearly. Companies like NETeller are not going to pack up and disappear. This legislation merely encourages more of the same.

It will be fascinating to watch this issue unfold. If our government tries to stop US financial institutions from sending money to a place like NETeller, this would surely be fodder for a lawsuit.

The issue will probably be decided from a business perspective. If NETeller makes millions from nongaming-related sources and it would hurt their business if they lost US customers, they may voluntarily stop sending money to offshore sites. On the other hand, if a large portion of their business is online gaming, a lawsuit is in the making if NETeller is blacklisted.

The Secretary and the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System have 270 days (after the bill is signed by the president) to come up with enforcement policies and procedures.

You can be sure that during this period, there will be lawsuits here, while abroad, there will be plans to protect the $6 billion-a-year industry by circumventing this new law that is applicable only in the US. Our government cannot make laws that apply to offshore companies who are regulated by the governments where they are located.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the offshore sites come up with programs to put large sums of money into their sites now prior to enforcement of the bill. They could offer interest or other large incentives to keep substantial sums online.

The Poker Player’s Alliance president, Michael Blocerek, told me this morning that he is “outraged at the way Frist attached the antigaming bill to unrelated legislation at the 11th hour.” The Poker Player’s Alliance is a grass roots organization of more than 110,000 members. Bolcerek said: “During the 270 day period, we will continue to fight to exempt poker.”

There are many interesting twists and turns in this new legislation which I will analyze for our readers next week after the holidays.

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