I agree with Tman that this topic has been worked over pretty well. However, I met a CRT VIP in March that said if " she doesn't charge cien she's not good enough for me".

We were at the BM a little after happy hour and I saw a brand new chica, a spinner. I asked her to sit and started to negotiate. The negotiations were going quite well, with many interview questions. Lo and behold, this CRT brother pulls her away and takes her out.

( HOW RUDE!). I had her down to $50 for an hour, mas or menos. After he returned (45 minutes later) I asked him what happened. It turns out that he gave her $100 plus cab fare for the short time. I expressed my displeasure in a gentlemanly manner concerning his actions and also explained that he ruined her by paying cien. Once again he said " if she doesn't charge cien or more, she's not worth being with".
I was shocked. Needless to say, I avoided this guy after that experience. So, I must say that we will never get all the CRT brothers to agree with our (my) code of NO CIEN. It's up to the rest of us to hold the line. I'll do my part. (BTW, I had a great time that night with a beautiful, fun and kinky Nica for $60 for 2 plus hours).
Never say Whoaaa in a horse race. kenj8