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El Ciego wrote:
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1. You want to get the hot girls, even though you're paying, you must be a physically fit, lithe, sober, Spanish-speaking non-smoker who doesn't really care about money. In other words, if you can't close the deal at home with a gringa, if you lack tone, grille or game, don't even try. The fantasy is still out of reach, even though the women will Phuck for money. :cry: I guess I'm eliminated (weight). This gringo doesn't make the cut.


:lol: I had to respond to this common outlook first before giving my angle on this most interesting thread and the "cien." Sure the P4P chicas would generally rather have a young handsome guy over an elderly man on his death bed. But then again, most surely are capable of tuning all that out and focusing on their main interest, money. And if the young fitness fanatic is going to bang them sore, the chica may well prefer the easier work.

Most of this talk about game, being so fine and good looking, making girls C*m and C*m, etc. is internet bravado aimed to offset insecurites about paying for tail. In reality the poster is not so good at closing the deal with hot gringas. Why make flying to Costa Rica anything like a habit if one is? Tons of hot young tail in the U.S., we all know it.

On the cien: I used to be one of the strongest opponents of paying it, has the potential to hold and drive up prices plus negotiation is part of the culture there... Also cien it is a lot of money in that economy, and you cannot say it is "nothing" when you factor in travel expenses, hotels, and the risks in walking the streets which I have read have gotten greater. You pay much more than cien for that experience... However, as some have stated, cien for two hours or more, two pops, is a good deal. But if you want the true 9.5 or 10 stunners, of which I see very few at given times, you may have to pay cien an hour, your choice. Myself, I just opt for the cute nice one, 7 or 8 that jumps at 50, and no need for the grade b porno sound effects or fake tits. Each to his own... :wink:


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Most of this talk about game, being so fine and good looking, making girls C*m and C*m, etc. is internet bravado aimed to offset insecurites about paying for tail. In reality the poster is not so good at closing the deal with hot gringas. Why make flying to Costa Rica anything like a habit if one is? Tons of hot young tail in the U.S., we all know it.


I sure hope this one doesn't come back to life, but I had to say for the record... I don't think anyone here ON THIS THREAD has talked about being good looking of being "fine" or making girls C*m or any other of the "internet bravado" that you mentioned... I'll have to recheck the thread, but I'm pretty sure of it. If so, it was surely done with tongue in cheek and/or with a synical overture, such as El Ciego's post you quoted.

I have happened to still date stateside during my mongering phase and on quite frequent basis,but the truth is, no matter how good you are at it or how much "game" you got, as you put it , it DOES take time and money and work to hook a line and catch that one-night-stand prize fish in the U.S. when out on the night-scene, no matter what your circumstances. And you CAN go to a club or bar on occassion and leave empty handed on many a night, no matter how hard you try and no matter how good your game is. The truth is, going out in CR is EASY... it's a break from the rat-race of courting and dating in the U.S. I batted 1.00 every night in the gulch, and that makes it fun, if for no other thing the assurance and ease of it all (getting laid 100% of the times you try). Consider it an R&R on the pleasurable aspects of life in the U.S.

I or no one else needs to establish or prove how well or not well they do in the states. The truth is, even the biggest player can find their own reasons for enjoying the P4P scene in CR (or anywhere else).

Here's a flip-side of your own coin...

Perhaps your comments on 'internet bravado on insecurites for paying tail' is actually a reverse psychology tactic to give you a false sense of reassurance that everyone else in the p4p scene is just like you and in it for the same reasons as you...?


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Ruffnutz wrote:
I sure hope this one doesn't come back to life, but I had to say for the record... I don't think anyone here ON THIS THREAD has talked about being good looking of being "fine" or making girls C*m or any other of the "internet bravado" that you mentioned...



I agree, but the poster I responded to alluded to such b.s. and it`s not hard to find on the net or live and in person at the Del Rey. The crying at the airport stories are my fav, or the beet faced guys claiming to be getting it all for free. It is a useful and entertaining part of the ambience... :lol:

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The truth is, going out in CR is EASY... it's a break from the rat-race of courting and dating in the U.S. I batted 1.00 every night in the gulch, and that makes it fun, if for no other thing the assurance and ease of it all (getting laid 100% of the times you try).


I totally agree! My hometown used to have like 20 massage parlors near the airport, steadily filled with a stream of young country girls from small surrounding mill towns. When the girls in the neighborhood got stingy I`d go there and get laid "100 percent of the time"... But that is apples and oranges as is comparing the Del Rey, a casino hooker bar, with the U.S. dating scene. "Fantasy".... One is welcome to it if they like...

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Perhaps your comments on 'internet bravado on insecurites for paying tail' is actually a reverse psychology tactic to give you a false sense of reassurance that everyone else in the p4p scene is just like you and in it for the same reasons as you...?


Don`t think we need Freud for this one amigo.... :wink: I go to buy whores. I do meet some interesting gentlemen to converse with but that isn`t worth the trip, nor is the gambling as I can do that at home. The trip is for the young ass P4P. Same applies for all regulars. Take that out of the equation and no one arrives... And men that make the young girls cry don`t have to brag about it on the internet nor will you often find them in Central America buying whores. Will be an uphill climb convincing me otherwise... :lol:


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Prolijo wrote:
One guy pays $100 for an hour, another with better looks or more charm negotiates her down to $75, are you telling me the 2nd guys only gets 75% of the quality of performance?


It doesn`t work like that. The way to get a quality performance is to get girls that deal in repeats, that means staying away with the fake ones hanging around the rails or sour pusses that are still there with every trip. And go to places like IDEM where they are expected to perform. But it is hard to get a cab driver to take you there as Roberto will not pay them comission. They will b.s., say they are closed, take you to NF and try to charge you for the ride...


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A couple of points on the last few posts. It's important to understand there are quite a few "dickheads" who go to places like Ft. Lauderdale, South Beach, and a slew of other locations around the country for the express purpose of "getting lucky." A host of websites offer the same promise to American guys. I see them all the time on Collins and Washington Ave's and believe me, it's pathetic. All that money, getting charged up with hope fueled by visuals of scantily clad gringas, Latina gringas, and African American gringas, only to whack off in their hotel rooms at night's end, or pay $300 for an agency girl. Many if not most of those I refer to are guys in their mid 20's to mid-40's, in the prime of life, and respectable citizens.

I was talking to a 26 y.o. girl here in Rio yesterday. She knows and likes an American guy who lives/works here 6 months and is in the midwest the other 6 months. He brings a truckload of condoms and V when he comes, but has no sex in the States unless he has a girlfriend, and then only with her. He's 51, she's 26, and phucks him and stays with him 2 or 3 days at a stretch - for free. She likes him and can make money at Help disco whenever she wants. By the way, she wanted to sleep over with me and when I said I saw someone earlier and have no money, she said she really didn't want to go to her apartment in Central. In bed she said she wanted an orgasm because her guy won't be returning for 2 more weeks.

The contrast of these two scenerios is telling. GIRLS ARE MORE FORGIVING IN LATIN CULTURE. They have less expectations, are happier with small gestures, and consider sex normal expression, not something to be awarded only at key moments with key people. And yes, they take their orgasms more seriously.

There's "bravado," whenever guys talk about their success, whether in sex or fishing. But the concensus of what is written here over many years is that, for many reasons, with pro's and non-pro's alike, men feel more appreciated here. Girls literally lick your asshole here with gusto on the first "date." I'll be heading back to the good ol' red, white, and blue soon, so someone please tell me where I can find that in South Florida, at any price.

Finally, there's a 23 y.o. absolute sweetheart at the moment who will come for whatever I can afford at the moment. Her last text message to me was last night, and was in response to one I sent telling her how hot she was. Her response was,

"Ai, meu Deus!!! Que bocaa e essa! ai, ai.... rsrsrs! Beijos."

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"Ah, my god. That tongue is too much! ah, ah... mmmm! Kisses

Bravado? I guess. But she wouldn't look at me in the States for under $300, and even then, wouldn't be as sweet, sexy, or unspoiled. And that says nothing of the non's in their 20's who get attached to guys here twice their age every day; not a natural occurance in the States, unless you're a rock star.

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Jazz Musician wrote:
Bravado? I guess. But she wouldn't look at me in the States for under $300, and even then, wouldn't be as sweet, sexy, or unspoiled. And that says nothing of the non's in their 20's who get attached to guys here twice their age every day; not a natural occurance in the States, unless you're a rock star.


Thanks, and you are onto something about the freer mindsets... However I tend to think many forget that a little money to us is a lot in Latin America. A fifty spot here is like $250 there. And there are a lot of young cute American women around that would feed up plenty of lovey poo b.s. if we threw them a few c notes every time we saw them.... And there would also be a lot more young America women snuggling up to middle aged American men if there was a poverty rate here like that in developing countries. We see the same in Eastern Europe, practicalities are the driving force, not "oh he is so smooth and sexy I want to faint"... :wink:


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No question whatsoever that money drives women to have sex. The oldest profession, and all that. Not to beat a dead horse, but I swear on my mother's grave, I can't get close in the States by throwing "C" notes around, to what I get here. I've thrown them plenty in the past and usually wound up with a headache.

There is the argument that Latinas are simply better business women than gringas, essentially "tricking" better than their white counterparts to the north. But then you have to explain away physical responses unique to females when they get aroused, to say nothing of their willingness to see you for less and at times, nothing. Yes it's poor here, but you'd be surprised the women who work at Help who don't need to. Frankly, some like it. And there are also many beautiful women here who get by and go to school without programing. They find a way.

Regarding a $50-spot, that actually translates to about R107, or 107 of their dollars here in Rio. I think in CR it's around 20,000C. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Express321 wrote:
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Regarding a $50-spot, that actually translates to about R107, or 107 of their dollars here in Rio. I think in CR it's around 20,000C. Correct me if I'm wrong.


Yea I am not talking about exchange rates but relative values... Necessiities are much cheaper in C.R. than here, eg, housing, clothing, food. Average income is about $5000 a year so $50 is in reality more like $250. Perhaps the ones that see you more and more without being handed money are lobbying for marriage, eg. to solve their financial problems permanently. Or, maybe you are just an irresistible guy, not saying that there aren`t some around. But most of what I have read on the net and heard in the mensroom and bar at the Del Rey along such lines is obvious b.s. As is the screaming of "que rico" and "oh papi" from the chicas moments into the session. Guess I just can`t embrace the "fantasy," huh? :lol:


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While relaxing in my jaccuzzi last night with one of my regular chicas,we started to get a little silly.She started showing me some of her "Papi ricos" and "si si leche papi" moans and groans and we were laughing our asses off. Of course I wasn't even touching her at the time. She said that one of her Chica friends was REALLY good at it and had been teaching her some new moans. AND SOME GRINGOS REALLY EAT THIS FAKE SHIT UP. Remember guys,in 90% of the situations the chicas adhere to the philosophy of (Sung to the William Tell Overture) Get 'em up...Get 'em in....Get 'em off.... Get 'em out....


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Vegas Bob wrote:
While relaxing in my jaccuzzi last night with one of my regular chicas,we started to get a little silly.She started showing me some of her "Papi ricos" and "si si leche papi" moans and groans and we were laughing our asses off. .


Yea, I love it when they start all that at first but soon realize a fast pop is not coming. Then all the papis and que ricos stop... :wink:


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