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My best friend a NY Advertising Yuppie making well over 100K / ano was going thru a divorce with his old lady with higher title from another major firm.

The results took place with no phucking lawyers till the end.

No Ch*ld support, joint custody, he pays for the ki*s education, she gets the NY co-op and he gets the boat, SUV, and Beach house on Fire Island,NY.

He got a check for around $400K because of the the increased value of the Manhattan co-op after 14 yrs and no PHUCKING LAWYERS!!!!!!!!!!

The moral of the story is make the deal before the sharks get involved!!

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There once was a Latina who lived in a shoe. She had so many k*ds her uterus fell out !

Way to go Tanager...I knew we would hear from a Lawyer in this discussion. (however I believe Tanager to be one of the few honest ones) I hear that the Law Schools are now teaching a course called "Stringing along your client to increase the fees". In my first divorce,I got custody of the K*ds and she got half my assets.In my second divorce she got $100,000 less than I offered her 1 1/2 years earlier than her lawyer LET HER get divorced. Of course the lawyer's job in her case was to extract as much money for herself(the lawyer) as possible before ALLOWING her to get divorced. So tell me who she was really representing.... my ex or herself.

Witling, pure words of wisdom...thanks for reminding

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GO Winnipeg JETS!

A late wife is a lot cheaper than an ex-wife!

I have a good friend on the CRT board who has just that. Damn am I jealous!!!

dapanz1

I see that practically everyday... the lawyer extracting the money from the client. It's one of several diseases affecting the legal system.

The one piece of legal advice you can give to everybody in every situation is this: never hire a lawyer that does not come personally recommended to you from somebody you trust.

And as Rushkismet said, if you can work it out without lawyers, then money will be saved.

Tanager

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Why own when you can rent?

I realize everyones situation/circumstances are very different. But, if worked out properly beforehand, you can have all the assets divided up how you and your spouse want them to be divided up. Screw the lawyers and the courts.

I'm not giving a referral here but..you can hire an attorney in say..uh..Guam. Have him email the documents, you and your spouse fill in the blanks, notorize it, send it back and have a divorce decree in less than a month. All for less than $2000. It is enforceable in all 50 states. It really doesn't have to be a nightmare. Unfortunately it usually is a nightmare because one or the other will fight to the death for the ch ld or ch ldren, whatever the case may be. Then there is the issue of support. Which is an entirely separate issue. Tanager, correct me if I'm wrong but, I don't think the divorced couple has much say in that issue. Once a divorce occurs and ch ldren are involved the support issue goes straight to the court system.

Bottom line, since we have strayed a bit off topic is..if you are practicing in our hobby, leave nothing to chance. Witling nailed it. Women have the memory of an elephant and don't throw away anything! Keep it wrapped, no pictures, no WU's., no phone logs on your cellphone. Speaking of that, I have a buddy who was seeing a woman on the side. His wife had the password to the cellular service website (Cingular). One day she decided to find out what the monthly cost was for the phone as she had not been seeing the bills. (They were being sent to his P.O. Box) She logs on and what does she discover a long list of calls made to a number unbeknownst to her. Of course she calls and asks how the woman how she knows xxxx. Party over...big time.

dapanz1

I don't do family law (I'm a litigator), so I'm no expert in this field, but here's the general info...

In Florida, at least, and I imagine in every state, some version of a "simplified divorce proceeding" is available to couples who 1.) do not have any minor Ch*ldren, and 2.) already agree on dividing the assets and liabilities. I've gone through this proceeding twice. No lawyers are necessary, the court fee is something in the ballpark of $300, and you're done.

And I believe Dapanz1 is generally correct that a legal divorce obtained in a U. S. territory would be given full faith and credit in every state, but as Dapanz1 points out, one party determined to fight can drag the other party into court.

Regarding minor Ch*ldren, the courts are properly focused on "the best interests of the Ch*ld," and court approval is necessary regarding support arrangements, whether mom and dad already agree or not. Got K*ds? You'll be talking to a judge if you get divorced. K*ds, therefore, might be a problem with the "hire a lawyer from Guam" idea... but I suppose it might work (more research here) if both parties agreed and there was NEVER any fuss.

Typically, support payments are made directly, but if a fight breaks out then the judge may order that the support payments be delivered into the registry of the court (so that the court can keep track of them).

If you are deceiving somebody for some reason, then you should probably double-check yourself and ask if the deception is really necessary and advisable. I'm not making any judgments here because I know from reading this board that there are many kinds of spoken and unspoken arrangements out there.

But I do know that Dapanz1 is right; if you are deceiving a female, you better be good at it and you better stay good at it. It's too much work for me.

Tanager

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Why own when you can rent?

It does require a lot of work to cover up and I'd be nervous everytime the wife called and left a message saying, "I need to talk to you, call me right away."

Cellphones, instant messaging, internet, email - if you don't watch it these devices save history so you have to remember to delete it or continuously check that the history feature that you turned off, stays off. Oh, and watch out for those key stroke loggers that are free to download and easy to install.

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