Ruffnutz wrote:
Hazel brings up a good point which I think is overlooked sometimes by many, which is that in the negotiation-phase, you don't always have to wheel and deal the price... you can also negotiate the factors.
When I mongered in CR, I rarely negotiated the "cien" aspect of the negotiation, but moreso what I would get for those cien. Cien is quite ok for a multiple round, multiple hour, little-to-no-rules session, especially with a honey-bunny you consider to be an 8.5 or better.
Newbies should realize, many of the honeys that alot of the people here talk about getting for $50 or less at the DR/KL are of the physical caliber of Sasquatch... I wouldn't Phuck them with VB's Dick and RBC doing the pushing.
When it comes to Del Rey/Key Largo kittens, I think that newbies should put this in their pipes and smoke it :
1. A lot of people embellish on this board, it's called artistic license. If they claim they paid $40 for 3 hours, it's probably more like $90 for 1 hour. Or if not, she was probably a 5-6 even though he'll claim she was a 8-9. Somewhere the story is a little exaggerated... trust me. Though many wouldn't say it on the board or openly agree with me, I know for A FACT that alot of people on this forum are in the same boat of thought with me on this... kinda like the fact that NO, you didn't make every kitten C*m on your last trip, no matter what you claim.
2. You get what you pay for. Don't expect to get the stunning 9 for $40, not matter how bad the market is... it ain't gonna happen, and I'll pay anyone a $100 session who can prove me otherwise (UNLESS there's history between the two of you... I used to get freebies and big discounts with kittens I had a long-standing relationship with, that doesn't count). IT'S A MYTH THAT YOU CAN GET TRUE STUNNERS (i.e., colombianas, real hot ticas, etc. etc.) FOR BARGAIN-BASEMENT PRICES... Again, if you're talking about a Chewbacca, then of course you can haggle them down that low, but I personally wouldn't go there. Here's an analogy fo' yo' ass...Just imagine, you can't go into a Mercedes dealership and expect to pay Honda prices, it just doesn't happen.
3. Cien is the going "Start-price' rate (and has been FOR YEARS), and understand that you CAN get them to go down from that, but not by that much... maybe 10-30 dollars AT BEST and only for a one-hour session (again, I'm only talking stunners). I strongly suggest that you best negotiate time and favors over price for two reasons: It doesn't kill the mood the way price haggling can, and being that she is getting what she wants, you are more likely to get what you want (significantly more time, better treatment, etc etc.). These are much easier negotiating chips than price, and if you are a GFE-type like me (with a little PSE to the mix to make it PERFECT), then this kind of things works GREAT and you can definitely get what you want by working this way!
4. Here's how I factor if what I'm getting is good at DR or KL: ZB charges me $40 a pop or an hour. In my personal opinion, the chicas at ZB, though I LOVE THEM TO DEATH, are at best 7's looks-wise. When talking to a DR/KL chica whom I'd easily consider an 8.5 or better, I'm already getting a great deal with having her for two or more hours, BBBJ and multiple pops for cien. An allnighter for $150 where a guaranteed 3+ sessions is going to happen (two or more sometime throughout the night and one in the morning) is a sound deal. AGAIN, this is for an 8.5 or better, not some skank that could easily fit in the Dungeon or Europa 2000... Apples and oranges guys, remember that.
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Some will balk, some will argue, but 14+ trips with over 100 sessions under my belt, I can count with less than all the fingers on one hand the number of bad sessions I've had. If you're looking for the $5-20 blowjobs or sessions, there's plenty of places to go in CR for that, and trust me, the girls performing at those prices are right on par for that price, looks-wise. If you're looking for the eye-candy or the better looking honeys and therefore a better session, expect to pay more for it... Personally I would rather have a 'dead-fish' Eva Longoria-type over a 'buck-wild' Star Jones-type any day of the week, but even that has rarely been an issue... most of these honeys aim to please, especially if you treat them right and approach this whole game almost as if you were at an actual bar trying to pick somone up.
YMMV, but not by much on this issue.
Thanks for reading,
Ruffnutz
Ruff,
I'm certain you're correct on several points, but I'd like to further amplify one of them.
Say you're intent on banging Eva Longuria or some other star p*ssy, and your strategy is to accept the cien, but insist on multiple hours, this might not happen. Here's why:
Prostitutes often have long track records and numerous men. They know from experience who is likely to give them a good time for more than an hour. Handsome young studs such as yourself with flawless Spanish and great game will be far more likely to be able to negotiate longer sessions at the same price than say, I would. Yes, I'm fairly good looking. Yes, I speak passable Spanish. OTOH, I'm overweight, blind and 49. I do not believe that with any given girl, I will have the same success rate as someone like you would. This is neither false praise nor jealousy. I simply recognize that even prostitutes are still at their core women, and their instincts wil lead them, all financial things being equal, to spend more time with a biologically desireable male than with an elderly toad.
Now let's fast-forward to the room. Old Fat Monger has negotiated for two and a half hours time for his $100.00. They get to the cama, and OFM is a total dud. His conversation is mostly drunken inanities, his di*k only gets semi-hard, he's a snore sexually. The girl tries her best to inject passion, but it becomes a comedy of non-performance. You think she's gonna stay for the 150 minutes? I'd match your $100.00 bet that she won't stay the full time.
Fast-forward again to a post on CRT's "Girls Review" section. Old Fat Monger posts a diatribe against the chica. "She shorted me time. She didn't deliver on services promised..." Well of course she didn't give you the anal you negotiated, you sad sack! You couldn't get hard enough to pass the ring. But this guy will tell anyone who will listen that the chica was a rip-off. It's very unfair IMO.
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I really feel for them.
Of course, the financial risk is yours, but you'd be looking for poon anyway, right? What I will promise you is that your gentlemanly CRT bros will not deliberately set you up with a Chewbacca. Otherwise, you'd be on your own to make the choice.
