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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:19 pm 
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Ive been looking at the buying and selling aspect of real estate in CR. Is it as good as it seems? If anyone has some insight on this subject, I would really appreciate it.


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Ive been looking at the buying and selling aspect of real estate in CR. Is it as good as it seems? If anyone has some insight on this subject, I would really appreciate it.

As with any real estate investment(s), you must do your homework. Especially when it comes to purchasing real estate in a foreign country.

The market in CR has been going crazy over the past 3 - 5 years. Price in some areas, especially Guanacaste, have doubled, tripled, quadrupled, and more. There are still some good deals out there, but it's hard to find them published. Your best bet is to talk to the locals, check some of the spanish newspapers and do plenty of research. Most "ocean-view" or "beachfront" properties will command the highest asking price. Get away from the beach to find your best deals. YMMV.

You're not in Kansas anymore. Learn spanish, as many of the R.E. contracts are written in español. Find yourself a good abogado. This, in itself, can present challenges. And when it comes to realtors, don't trust anyone. Realtors in CR are not governed or licensed by any type of insurance commissioner. In CR, if you want to become a realtor, just click your heals together 3 times and say "I'm a realtor", and POOF.... You're a realtor!

Learn the laws about buying land in the maritime zone, within 50 - 100 meters from the shoreline, along with the laws about concession property and titled property. Also, read up on "squatters", and the rights they acquire after a period of time.

In some aspects, real estate purchases in CR can be very simple, but there are many parameters that you need to understand beforehand. If not, then you could lose everything. If you act in haste, chances are good that you will regret it. This is a common occurrance.

There are countless sites out there, and books that have been published, that talk about buying and investing in Costa Rican real estate. And I doubt that CRT is the best place to start. IMHO, before you spend a dime, do your homework.....LOTS OF IT! Buying in CR can be a dream come true, or your worst nightmare. How you proceed will govern the outcome.
Just my dos colones........ :roll:

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If you act in haste, chances are good that you will regret it. This is a common occurrance.



MG, are you talking about real estate, or the HDR? :oops: :?


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Mucho Gusto wrote:
If you act in haste, chances are good that you will regret it. This is a common occurrance.

MG, are you talking about real estate, or the HDR? :oops: :?

YES ! (take your pick)! :o :oops: :wink:

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Timing is everything. Gringos have created an artificial market, especially in the bank. IMHO it is going to be like the Brothers. A lot of money made for a while and then a lot of investors are going to feel a big hit...... Mainly condos.


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typing to fast for my brain. Meant at the beach, not the bank.


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This from AM Costarica Wednesday...
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Analyst senses a stiff correction in real estate market

By Christopher Walraven*
Special to A.M. Costa Rica


The Costa Rican real estate sector over the next 18 months is going to go through a major correction, and will leave many foreign and local investors wondering what happened.

This sector was based on speculation and the belief was the market will continue growing unabated and at great multiples. Thus, again as everyone dreamed of making it rich or at least living a comfortable lifestyle hopes got ahead of the numbers.

Several things clouded most real estate speculative investors rational thinking and allowed for today’s current overbuilding. The housing market was moving along okay, but when the 2002 stock market correction happened this really changed the whole dynamics of the real estate market. The investor with money now needed a new place to park his or her cash, and of course real estate was the next answer. This opportunity also allowed small and new investors to enter the speculative market with interest rates at a 40-year low. To help matters, the industry introduced several new types of real estate loans to match any investor's needs. Thus the gold rush was on!

Capitalism worked great in this instance. It allowed many to get in early and flip the real estate investment, and the rewards were great. The problem is most are still holding on hoping for even greater returns, and, of course, some have just entered not knowing the cycle was nearing the downward spiral.

Why when it comes to money are humans so irrational? Did investors believe the market had no boundaries and would continue for years to come. The data was available for everyone to make a rational decision from rising interest rates, the median family income, to the labor and housing department data, consumer debit ratio, supply/demand, planning commissions, and sentiment on the street concerning personal finance (Michigan consumer sentiment index).

The speculation in markets like Miami and Las Vegas just shows how easy it is for one to lose sight of rational behavior. It was very evident that the market was providing too much supply and hoping for demand to continue. These markets have thousand of units just waiting for someone to purchase.

The many months to come will be a great time to be a buyer of real estate here in Costa Rica. The problem is that the seller in some instances will take

What do the numbers say?


a terrible bath in the process. Win-win is best, but that just isn’t possible in most situations.

Mortgage companies also will begin to feel the pain. Foreclosure rates for this year alone vs. last year in the U.S. market are worth a look. Also new construction starts and the publicly trade home builder stocks are vital indicators.

With the fear of increasing inflation (oil) and the uncertainty with the current geopolitical situations popping up around the world, one worries about placing one's assets. The baby boom generation still has disposable income available for investing purposes, but the wealth effect they once felt has eroded, thus leaving them unsure of what to do next.


The market here in Costa Rica even as this is being written has seen large land transactions take place by foreign investors mostly from the United States. They are currently taking big risks to continue growth in their portfolio. The best advice now is to wait and see how tourism moves forward and what potential exists for new real estate transactions.

Costa Rica will see a flattening or decrease in tourism flow from the United States this upcoming season, which, of course, places even more burden on the market. This isn’t all bad. The market here in Costa Rica was getting way ahead of itself with housing prices, and this correction will allow for a future with real estate values more in line with similar properties elsewhere.

*Mr. Walraven, a San José businessman, has academic training in economics and is an observer of the regional financial scene. See another analysis HERE!



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:06 pm 
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This is so true that the prices in the North west are crazy! The gringos and the frenchies came and bought land and inflated the prices.
I belive there will be a small slow down but as the retirees come on line this will change. With the baby boomer retirees gobeling up all of the medicar and medicad the U.S. market will get too expensive to retire until you are in your 70's. I know in my generation I won't be able to retire until than.
Costa Rica will be a alternative that will fill that whole of health insurance and cheap retirement.
Where to buy the land, personaly I would by in the central valley or on top of a mountain with ocean views. This is much cheaper than on the Ocean and you are not sweating your balls off either. Yes you can still retire with a big house under 150,000 and on SS in costa rica. This is my market and people are asking more and more about CR :)
How to buy, look for people that have scouts. If you want good deals you have to have many tico people looking for you. Ticos know if a gringo is coming up charge the price! They have been had too many times and know that the gringo will inflate the price.
Even if you know the law it won't help you! I have seen and herd too many times when a person has bought property here and they lost their shirts. The did all the home work that they thought they knew and still lost their shirts.


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I'm going to buy a nice row house in a Tico neighborhood for 15K.

I might buy a whole row of them and spend each day in a different one.

Worst case, I end up on the streets.

I call dibs on the sidewalk overhang outside the former nasty Rastafarian store just up from the Zona Blue.

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It's just the amount you care to loose, the only investment in the CR that will make money is a MP if run correctly.


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Must not be any people who work in real estate in Costa Rica on this board. haha I say this because in every conversation about real estate I've heard, real estate people will jump you in a minute with all kinds of statistics. They get downright mad to even hear it talked about. I'm not an extremist on my views either. There is still plenty of money to be made investing in real estate. But it ain't gonna be from buying condominiums in Jaco. A few people will make money for a few years, until the builders realize that the kind of people that are generally their market for condos aren't the kind of people who will go to Jaco.


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I am comming down this week to close on a lot in the central valley and build a small house. Total cost will be around $100,000 and I plan to sell it for $160,000. Have done a fair amount of research and there are ways to make money if you deal with the right people.


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So if you are coming to build the home and flip it are you going to be a perpetual tourist?


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Miami...I would be careful about "quick" flip plans in the valley. THe market is hotter at the beaches than around the city...especially in that price range. Just a friendly caution from one who sold real estate there for almost 3 years. Theres a much higher supply than demand in the vally in my opinion. And these new immigration laws...that still are clear as mud... arent going to help that direction.


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Thanks for the advice. I am not flipping. I am hiring a builder to build it on a mountain view lot that I bought in a town where there are very few homes for Americans. I am going very slow on the first project and am trying to minimize my risk as much as possible.


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