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It's their business. They juggle, and even if they like you, they'll juggle you, too. Ever been around one when she's on the phone with a guy who thinks (or hopes) she stopped working, because he sends money, is a boyfriend, is married, or all three? And if she likes you, she won't want you to know how clever she is. When she calls and says she'll be two hours late because she's copying notes at school from an amiga's book, she's really boffing some dude and getting cream all over her face. And should you call midway into her session and she happens to answer, she'll put her finger over her lips to the guy she's with, so he remains silent. That's just like she does with you when her "boyfriend" is on the phone, and she's prancing around your apartment in a bikini.

They have to make a living, and you're not a meal ticket. The only question is how to deal with it. If she's extraordinary, you might wait the two hours while she "copies notes" from her friend, especially if she's going to stay overnight and not charge you. It's a balancing act. I think if it's a girl you have a quasi friendship with, you have to cancel her ass once in a while, or not call for a few days, too. It can't be a one-way street. Yes, she has to juggle to make money, but your time is valuable, plus you have pride. There's a lot of beautiful girls who'll suck your dick. Show her their photos.

In many ways, the psychology involved in having a relationship (of sorts) with a working girl - by that, I mean she would rather hang with you and make less - is much like it is with a civilian girl. You can allow her to abuse you a little because she really is hot shit (never her let her know that), but you can't be afraid to blow her off, too. If you are, she'll smell it like a cat smells fish.

In fairness, many hot girls like to have guys they feel are friends, and they're sincere to a point. It's lonely for many girls, especially those who are living far from family and friends. Girls at the work places are colleagues only, and most guys are clients. So she may really like hanging, going to the beach, a movie, or even to your apartment. Sex may or may not be on the menu, but she's not counting on big money from you. She'll weigh the totality of the relationship and decide when and if to poke you, and you'll be happy when she does. But you'd better be happy the other times, too, or she'll smell that shit, too. You really better be a friend if you want to continue with the half-price shit.

But that gets back to can you tolerate the lies she executes with near precision, day after day. She wants you to believe she's on the way out of the biz and she may be. If she really sees you as a friend she may tell you she really doesn't like to work anymore, and that may be truthful. But she still is working, make no mistake, genius boy. She wants you to see her as a non-working girl (you made it clear you don't want to be regarded as a client), and not think she likes being a programer.

Maybe you can tell her to be truthful when she's working. Most girls, however, don't want you to know if they have feelings for you (even small feelings). They want you to think better of them. And besides, do you really want her to tell you? Not unless you're her pimp.

Mix it up. Go to an MP, terma, until you're feeling the need for a little more substance with your favorita....

....little being the operative word.

Jazz Musician

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"...and if men didn't have this unquenchable desire to have sex with women, then they wouldn't have anything to do with women at all. I certainly wouldn't..."

I would certainly say that this is the way it is & always has been but you are talking about getting into some work & many games for all this for the 1/2 price discount. I question if this is really worth the extra time & trouble for them for what 20-40 bucks? I guess it all depends on what one likes to deal with & how much work it becomes. One thing either way too me is we know even though these are hotties we will not be keeping them long either way after all they are P4P types no matter how you cut it.

Myself I prefer a damn good actress that makes me feel good at what I need for the most part since I know it is not the real deal anyway. Yes they can be somewhat of a friend but their will be some price for this as they will want your time in helping them since so many have such problems in their life.

I certainly have seen enough of them talking on their phone to their so called boyfriends even in front of me as they wink at me knowing I am cool about it all. Yes my cynical grin gives me away & they read it doesn't phase me. They know my game & I know theirs as we both know we are playing for fun & not for keeps ! I have to laugh at some of the calls since I know there is little to no truths about their mode of operations. The main thing I find as long as you make them laugh & feel good they like to spend time with you. Keeping them off balance that you are nearly an untameable guy can have its rewards .

At least with these type of working women I expect these lies & juggling acts but I have seen this also in real life relationships where the women would never work as a P4P gal since they have some money. They just are husband hunting for the best deal & will string out several men at once being caught up in many lies to try to keep a backup if their main guy does not work out. These are the ones that can hurt you deeper if you allow it to happen. I just never trusted any of them until they prove who they really are & this takes many situations & time to test it all. Never let your guard down has worked well for me or put all your eggs in one basket.

One thing I have seen like you is never give your position or feelings completely away. I have seen so many women that once you tell them you are crazy about them or show signs of this they loose interest. Many are like us they enjoy the game & hunt more than the kill. Once they slay you it is all over & I have no use for what is sure to ensue:? . YMMV

At the ages of the women you are dealing with or any age for that matter, One is always better off I believe to let them see you are desired by other women her age. Do this in a nice way letting it appear as an accident that they find out. Maybe leave a photo album out that they get nosey about but don't make it real obvious. Jazz I really think you like showing them your collection !

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In all reality it comes down to...

Your so right…You really do have to keep them off balance… Their Master @ the Game!!!

Yes Sir, I agree 100%: One could even go a step further; Screw her best friend and then make no bones about it!!!
Ig...

How can you tell when a chica is lying to you?
Her lips are moving

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Jazz said

[/quote]Maybe you can tell her to be truthful when she's working. Most girls, however, don't want you to know if they have feelings for you (even small feelings). They want you to think better of them. And besides, do you really want her to tell you? Not unless you're her pimp. [quote]

Truthful points and scenarios Jazz. You have gotten further than I into the psyche of these P4P girls and relationships. While interesting, I have found it too painful to want to get involved at that level with this chicas. I too have been in their homes, met their Ch*ldren, and been tempted to have "real" relations with a couple of them who can really turn my crank. BUT...at the end of each adventure and revelation is a sadness and emptiness that cannot be filled or repaired...at least by me. We can not change these girls and where they came from...no matter how much money and time we want to throw at the situation or relationship. Sure, we can take on relationship projects with these poor, damaged, yet unusually strong women...and in some cases we could possibly come out with a greatful, caring, loving female partner. But...not often. Usually their low self esteem and sexual/emotional baggage preclude them from functioning long term in a "normal" social or cultural environment. Some people take in Greyhound dogs or mutts from the streets and commit their short lives and efforts on rescueing them in return for undying love and devotion...and perhaps a sense of personal satisfaction as the dogs "messiah". But most of us if we are honest want a "thoroughbred"...a strong, beautiful, well bred, intelligent companion...whether it be a dog or a woman (not saying they are equal companions...dont try to read too much between the lines here ).

I think it always comes back to this balance of sex versus relationships. Too many of us are falsely hoping our wives or significant others will perform like a sex craved maven, while we on the other hand sometimes wish we could turn our whore into an elegant female companion. It is very rare to be able to do either...so for many of us we find balance in life by having long term relations with women of our own status or backgrounds...while carrying out our sexual fantasies or cravings with temporary companions for hire. Is that really a bad thing?

Good post Tman. As usual.

dapanz1

Tman,
This is a more logical approach too me once you truly understand the two different sides of the street. You will not live long enough to change a (excuse me Gents) a whore into a wife or a wife into a whore. At least from my experience & many of my friends this simply is the way it is. The ones that tried messed up perfectly good relationships on both sides of the street. Just let it be what it is & they are. Take what they have to offer & relax. Just don't get caught or rub it in their face. It seems the only way to have both.

Comes right back to basics & the foundation it was forged on. One can not change this so why try? Another example are the events that trouble me so in the middle east. It is affecting all of our lives whether we admit it or not. Look at the foundation of hate that is taught at the ground level. Without a break in this nothing will ever change after it has been forged. Sorry don't want to get political but just trying to make a point about how important the foundation is in the end.. Tman I think it was you how said we can not get away from our childhood & we will never be Ticos even if we speak like them. We have been molded like everyone else . There is one thing that makes Latinas different I believe at the core of their foundation. It is sort of a curve ball or maybe better description is a SCREW BALL. Even poor dysfunctional families are raised with LOVE & caring so they maybe a BIG mess & very poor but very loving which comes natural too them. This catches us off guard along with their natural beauty & ASSS to DIE for & many of us are blindsided by this I feel. YMMV At least we have been adventuresome men & searched out other venues that we can plug ourselves into that provide us with something different that works well for us if we let it.

Igualmente Hombre I don't know if I have big enough BALLS for this one. I have seen some pretty ugly cat fights before or it could even get worse than this ! I like the direction of the thought though. You too are a guy it looks like that tries to keep the reins in his hands

I am happy to see Jazz do this deep study on the minds of the P4P gals. It is fasinating & I like to peer into it also but once I get to a certain level there seems to be NO where to go with it so I have slowed down in this area. I hope Jazz keeps going DEEPER into this getting to the very core synapse & shares his findings as long as it does not do any brain damage like it has with me !

PS Wanted to share this thought that popped into my Pinhead while it is still there. Many things do permanent damage to these P4P girls that you will never completely erase from their memory. One of the absolute most damaging is they know for a fact how easy they can replace you. But one that maybe over looked is the game we play with them. We are on vacation like many of us we are in a great mood knowing our fantasies will be fulfilled. We can make them laugh easier like this & show great energy with bursts of fun & joy. They get use to being constantly tickled by us along with having a false sense of being important. Then many of us shower them with gifts & money (not ME!). Well they get use to this & can we continue to do what they are use to receiving in our normal daily grind in our 9-5 lives?? These women get spoiled beyond repair (spoiled=gringa) & my guess is if you were to try to tame them they will get very bored with you very fast. Right now I know a girl from Brazil that married a young good looking Gringo. They are living in a conservative area in the USA & she is complaining of being very bored since she likes to party & is missing this but she is married now & he wants babbiess?? We are creatures of habit LOOKOUT!

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YO Lying lips:

Shit, who cares if they lie since you know it in the begining. When you get my age and look as pitiful as me you sort of enjoy some chica telling you how handsome and sexy you are. Okay, Okay.....it only happened a couple of times in the last several years before they broke out with a loud belly laughter. Can you imagine a gringa even lowering herself to make the initial statement.....NOT !!!

I always chuckle at that line in a gringa personal ad, " Want a man with a great sense of humor that can make me laugh." Yeah right, while she is out phucking and sucking everybody in town including her dog..... except me. No wonder I drink.

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Damn if I'm going to repeat this shit again. I need a drink.
I've been drinking vodka every day for 45 years and I have certainly never found it to be habit forming.

Zip - Brain damage? I don't think so. The worst that can happen is you move on to 5 more, or whatever it is Vegas B. says. And it always beats dealing with gringas.

Tman - Thanks for your consistent position on these "damaged" girls. I wish I could see it in as "black and white" a way as you. I'm sure living down south as long as you have will do that. And I agree, most working girls have baggage by definition, so buyer, beware.

Some women call us "Johns" lumping us as one homogeneous group - not to mention the medical community which defines us as sexaholics - but we know better. Some of us are normal - you and me - and others are really sick pups - Gringotim, Zippy, Circus. Similarly, I think the range and severity of pathology among chicas varies. And wouldn't some civilian women make the same argument about dating mongers - that we come with untenable baggage?

The point I tried to make was girls will befriend you with good motives (they're lonely, often far from their home, you're a nice guy, cook for them, whatever), but you can become one of very guys you see her "playing" with, faster than Bill Clinton can shoot a load on moving tits. They lie to everyone, including yours truly, and while we know that, I'm pretty sure some guys don't.

Here's another way to look at it; THEY'RE PROFESSIONALS at the oldest trade in history. They make Dave at the local car dealership look like an AMATEUR! These girls know how TO SELL! We think we have them figured out? Trust me, they understand us way better than we'll EVER understand them. They know how to extract, and like certain slimey creatures, will morph into whatever they need to, to affect the "bottom line."

Having said that, girls clean up their act and get out of the biz every day. Speaking of which, this really extraordinary 18 y.o. quit because her boyfriend knocked her up. Damn, always happens to the hot girls!

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"...and if men didn't have this unquenchable desire to have sex with women, then they wouldn't have anything to do with women at all. I certainly wouldn't..."

It has been said many times Rule # 1 DON'T send money.
Rule # 2 DON'T Send money.

My casual Tica freind from San Jose blew me off last week
Right out of the blue.

I was a good sugar daddy while in Costa Rica.
But I spend little on a tica if I am gone

As I had only send her a whole $ 200 to her since January.
I Pride myself on not getting sucked in to the send money game.
So anyhow she sais , that's it if you are not going to send a few thousand
dollars She wants nothing to do with me.
I assume her new Gringo sugar dady is part of this.....

OK..... um , NEXT.

No worries she was already dictating that I could not stay at the SL
next trip because of the local talent on site.

My next trip is in January again, some time yet, but I am longing for the Playa, Another try at Zona Blue experience,
The SL , and yes the Prez, Oh yes perhaps a few girls as well.

Thanks to the past CRT posts to keep me on the staight and narrow.
On this matter.

Fiedler

Fiedler

Doesn't it make you feel good how easy it is to say NEXT since we have so many that are so willing to step up to the plate. Back in the USA you might think you lost one nut for good ! When push comes to shove & you see so clearly that a higher bidder or big sucker has come along for her by her asking for thousands $$$$$$? MAn get real. It makes me feel good that I got it all while the getting was good without the problems this Chap is about to purchase. Moving on is the only sensible thing to do.

Jazz,

Of course I was joking about the brain damage as I believe we are past this chapter in our life . I am just surprised you threw me in the same bucket as Gringotim & Circus? I didn't think I was that bad ? (just joking)
This is pretty easy to understand that even young females have us dialed in better than we do them. Look how our hormones work compared to theirs. We are very consistent each day of the month with our hormones driving us in a straight line toward them for reasons we make obvious. Their hormones make all kinds of dips, jags, zigzags & turns every other day. Hard to factor theirs into any consistent equation & we make it all too easy for them to know how we function. Once I have their mood swings dialed in I make much better progress but again this takes time..

After a year or two living outside the states in the lands of loving women I would like to see how it looks & feels for you to return to the states. I hope you do a reverse report once you return. In my book anything beats dealing with a gringa after you know better.

Jim Morrison (Doors song BACK DOOR MAN)

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Bob Marley said it best. "Don't let her fool ya, or even try to screw ya, could this be love or be love........."

What I agree with... :mrgreen::mrgreen:


This whole Mongering Drama is a Game or should I say...a phucking mental headtrip (For both sides)
She performs a service for $$$$ and we pay for that service. I think to many guys read more into the story plot then is really there. Try playing Sugar Daddy without any sugar... If you succeed please post your results....And as far as playing one girl against onother....

They do it to every guy they meet...Regardless of what they are really telling you
Remeber that these Girls Lie...ALL OF THEM... :twisted::twisted:

Ig...

I did better than that, One I spent a lot of time with when, I was living in SJO for 8 months in 2005, decided i need to be punished for not coming down for 6 months and ignored me. Took her 4 days to come around, during that time had sex with 3 of her friends and took her little sister home for the night 2x. Funny when she called and wanted to get together, she didnt mention it at all, and we know they all talk. Didnt let me out of her sight for the next 3 days. I guess i cant be trusted. NEXT. Will be funny to see how she is when i come back in Sept

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Doesnt look like Costa Rica for a while. Got offer 2 years in Singapore. Now what is a good hotel in Thailand. (New Weekend home).

Jazz...I am not trying to be a "broken record" on the issue of having serious relations with pro girls. It just seems that way since this subject is probably the most prolific on this board and I always feel an obligation to remind newbies ( and some veterans who never seem to learn or listen) that a healthy, real, romantic RELATIONSHIP is next to impossible with a working girl. It is fantasy, an illusion, that if allowed to can totally captivate and even destroy a guys life and objectivity. At the same time, I dont mean to come off negetive or judgemental about the mongering scene...obviously I am still in it and dont want to throw rocks at myself .

That being said, I currently find myself less interested in mongering. After a 4+ yr satisfactory relationship with a wonderful Colombiana, I find myself less and less interested in temporary, meaningless forays. Am I becoming an M- man? Maybe a little...but I think it is more about WAITING. Waiting for someone or a situation or a fantasy that really turns my head. Maybe after so much playing around, I am becoming pickier about when and where I will take on a diversion. There are plenty of options here in Panama...but I am not going out of my way to find them. I have pretty pros flirting with me at the casinos quite often, and I just find myself being friendly...but standoffish. Part of that may be it is hard to monger in your own backyard. But, I truly think now it is more I am happy in my relationship, sexually and otherwise. My best sex has always been in a regular, romantic, meaningful relationship. I've had my mileage in one night stands...from the early 70s rock and roll tour days, to the periods after divorces where P4P saves you a lot of counceling fees or "dry times". But I think it always important to keep in balance that these trysts are not the real thing...and while there is nothing wrong with those who want to leave it at sex and passion but no desire for entangled relationships...I find I have no problem committing to a certain level to one special lady. It just has to be the right one, under the right circumstances...always with a reality that it may not last forever. The effort is to keep all things in perspective.

All that being said...I WILL do Rio one day in the near future...