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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:54 pm 
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Irish Drifter, on my June trip that's exactly what I did on entry was asked the nice immigration lady to also stamp my photocopy. No problems.

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VB is right on point. Just like when I was last in SJ and there were about 10 cops lined up to prevent the T Shirt venders from sellings their goods on the first day of World Cup.

Where are the cops after 10:00 at night? The streets belong to the criminals. Beware!!!

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Re: Photocopy of Bording Pass.

How many do this, I guess it is a good idea, one more layer of
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I was told yesterday that there were a lot of police around the DR the night before.However none of them were stationed on Calle 9 where all the muggings occured. (why would they go there...after all that's where the dangerous guys are) I was in the DR until around 9:00pm last night. I didn't see ANY police in or around there when I went home. My guess is that the police will follow the lead of a favorite play of mine "Same time next year".


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:34 pm 
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Some immigration workers refuse to stamp a photocopy of a passport.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:30 pm 
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Some immigration workers refuse to stamp a photocopy of a passport.


Never hurts to ask. If they refuse you have lost nothing.

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Here is an update to the "RAID"...

Much-anticipated downtown police raid captures 19

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By the A.M. Costa Rica staff
The much-heralded downtown raid by law enforcement took place Thursday night and resulted in the apprehension of 19 persons who did not have proper immigration papers.

The majority of those detained, some 15, were Colombians and Dominicans, said the Ministerio de Gobernación, Policía y Seguridad Pública. Police did not report locating anyone who was the subject of an outstanding arrest warrant.

Although the raid was designed to catch robbers and drug vendors, those people were back in business at Avenida 1 and Calle 9 Friday night.

Officials said they concentrated on hotels where foreigners might be found. Officials also said they located seven businesses that were operating without
the proper licenses, permits and paperwork.

The sweep involved more than 100 officers and lasted from 7 p.m. to shortly after midnight. Some 125 persons were stopped and asked to provide papers. Some of the questioning was done in and around the Parque Morazán, a location notorious for nighttime robberies of tourists.

Officers involved were from the Fuerza Pública, the Unidad de Intervención Policial, the Policía Especial de Migración and the Policía Municipal.

The raid was unusual because officials had been talking about it publicly for days before. Conducting the raid on a Thursday also was unexpected because the area is far more populated on weekend evenings.

Officials said that two knives and various doses of crack cocaine and marijuana were confiscated.


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Although the raid was designed to catch robbers and drug vendors, those people were back in business at Avenida 1 and Calle 9 Friday night.

Well, at least they realize this fact and hopefully will do something about it. :roll:

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Am I the only one here who finds it funny that the police would announce their "surprise"raid to round up robbers and drug pedlers? It was in all the newspapers and on the radio. Let's see...if I were a bad guy what would I do with advance notice? DUH maybe I'd take the night off. 100 police from all the different agencies were involved in grabbing a few Dominicans and Colombianas. What..no Ticos!!!! It will be interesting to see what the follow thru is now that they pretended to do something.I am told that they never went down Calle 9 where all the problems have recently taken place. Maybe they read CRT and knew to stay away because it was dangerous there. Hows that for good investigating? If the police are monitering this board ...here's my suggestion....ONE PHUCKING COP ON CALLE 9 WITH A MACHINE GUN from 8pm to 4am walking from Chelles to the Horseshoe,and dispersing the undesirables. Hell if they had 2 cops they would still have the other 98 to spare. Oh well,if my prediction on their involvement is correct "Same Time Next Year"


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Although the raid was designed to catch robbers and drug vendors (sic), those people were back in business at Avenida 1 and Calle 9 Friday night.

Well, at least they realize this fact and hopefully will do something about it. :roll:
That would be the logical thing to do (at least logical to us). In fact, that would have been the logical thing to do from the very outset, as we've been all saying. Unfortunately, I don't think their logic works the same way as ours. The way they designed and went about this raid indicates thats not their plan and because of that I don't see why they would change it at this point unless the politics of the situation changed radically.

It seems the powers that be have decided that the crooks and drug pushers are not really the problem. Those undesireables merely follow the money trail left by drunk gringos who are down there doing things that nobody really likes. Well, by that I mean, nobody except the drunk gringos, the working girls and the businesses that cater to them. Who else is there down in the Gulch? Nobody but the crooks and beggars. The cops certainly aren't there. However that leaves everybody else in the world who like to meddle in other people's morality ... and thats a lot of people.

According to this world view, the "logical" thing to do apparently is go after those perverts and whores that lure otherwise "decent" ticos to crime. The way to go about that is to check the paperwork of the victims in this whole mess: working girls, tourists, businesses. Do you think the 19 illegal aliens that were apprehended were working the street or were inside one of our favorite bars? What about the girls who ARE working the streets because they're und***ge, crackheads, or spreading diseases? Was any effort made to round them up or are they okay because they were born in CR? What about the guys who hang out on the street? Are their most serious crimes immigration violations or are they ticos guilty of far worse things? BTW, the article said that 15 out of the 19 people apprehended were Colombians and Dominicans. What it didn't say was that the rest were Haitians :D
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Officials said they concentrated on hotels where foreigners might be found. Officials also said they located seven businesses that were operating without the proper licenses, permits and paperwork.
Did they even bother to check anybody outside? Not that it would have mattered since they're all tico citizens. This raid was conducted after most businesses in the area (ie the ones catering to local citizens) were closing. They only went after ones catering to us. Does anyone know which 7 businesses were busted?
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The sweep involved more than 100 officers and lasted from 7 p.m. to shortly after midnight. Some 125 persons were stopped and asked to provide papers.
That amounts to 1.25 people stopped per officer and 4 man-hours of paper checking per person stopped. Talk about your usual CR police efficiency.
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Some of the questioning was done in and around the Parque Morazán, a location notorious for nighttime robberies of tourists.
I'm relieved to know that the transvestites have all their paperwork in order or were they just busting the gringos that were walking through that park? Great, now not all to we have to be worried about being held up by crooks, we have to worry about being held up by La Migra.

Let's not K*D ourselves, this raid was never really about going after the REAL crooks. It was about going after what the authorities feel the source of the problem is, namely US and our chica and business friends. If we're lucky this will have all been a political show and things will go back to normal with a gringo getting mugged every night and the cops doing nothing about it. More likely we'll see a few more in the series of keystone cops performances before this blows over. I hold out little hope that the administration will return to sanity and deal with the problem in the way we had hoped. As long as there is money flowing in the Gulch there will be crooks that will be attracted to it. Dealing with that requires a long term law enforcement commitment. It shouldn't mean squeezing shut the money flow. VB is right for what they paid for those 100 officers for the night they could have a cop patrol there all night every night for a few months. Hell in what we pay in hotel room taxes each night could pay for that cop for a few months. Instead, they've opted for the politically easier route of a few high profile raids that will only have any effect at all on the muggings that have been taking place if they succeed at driving off the victims. Both sides need to be careful what they wish for we thought we'd be getting sensible action, but the administration seems to have responded to our pleas for help by going after the victims. The administration seems to be wishing we go away, but if we go away we take our money with us and if that happens the adminitration may find itself wishing we hadn't


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Very good points indeed. One thing, and my mind has changed on this subject just in the last year. I don't think the monger money is a big enough percentage to really influence anything. And from what I gather, except for the small percentage of Ticos that directly make money somehow in the industry, the general population of the country despises and is disgusted by sex tourism. And sometimes guys don't help the situation. Is there really a need to walk down the street holding hands with a chica that is clearly a working girl?


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Before this useless raid took place,I thought it would take a Gringo's blood being spilt on Calle 9 on a Friday or Saturday night from 8-11 pm.Now I think the blood would have to splatter on the shoes of a Politicion's wife for us to get any REAL action to solve the problem. If this problem continues,I wonder if John will lower his $22 million dollar asking price for the DR. Kamur's reduction of $10,000/month may be chicken feed compared to the rapid decline in value of the DR when the murders start.


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TW..how can you tell that it is a Gringo and a working chica? Just because she is a 19 year old beautiful Colombiana with tits out to here....and he is a fat,old, drunk,drooling,slobbering,Gringo with varicose veins sticking out from his shorts that don't cover his stomach,doesn't mean that they are holding hands because they are related instead of that she needs to hold him up until she can do her 30 minutes and get her cien. Come to think of it,these muggers are as bad for the chicas as for the Gringos because they attack him BEFORE the chicas can.


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If this problem continues,I wonder if John will lower his $22 million dollar asking price for the DR.


$22 million...damn, talk about inflation! I remember the DR was for sale back in the late nineties for $11 or $12 million.

I concur with Prolijo and VB...the recent show of force by the policia was
exactly that...a 'show'. A facade. Prolijo mentioned the hotel taxes.
Are they still 16.39% or have they gone up? I'd like to know just
how the tax revenue is allocated or distributed. I suppose most of it goes to social programs, but from what some Ticos/Ticas have told me, the social programs in CR leave much to be desired. You would think that
as tourism is CR's number one revenue generator, they would want to keep a good/clean image of the country. I guess it goes back to what I've stated before...the authorities don't care about the mongers in the Gulch. That most likely represents a rather small segment of the tourism
business in general.
Mongers being attacked or even killed is probably given low priority. But...if some eco-tourists were severely attacked, the sh*t would really 'hit the fan'. I'm surprised that hasn't happened, at least not to a greater extent, as the Presidente has many eco-tourists as guests.
I suppose most of them just stay there for perhaps the first and last nights of their trip, going on tours or other destinations in the country the rest of the time.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 4:52 pm 
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Darn! I am going to be in San Jose tomorrow. I was hopeing the police would have everything all cleaned up. Guess not. I will definitely keep on the alert and take taxis even short distances at night. What a bummer! When I first started going to Costa Rica, about 22 years ago, there were not even street lights in the gulch area; but the violent crime was nonexistant. Think I am going to Thailand in November for a change. Tomorrow I will be at Hotel Presidente with my Novia of four years. I could probably post on the Long Term Relationship thread but I don't like being flamed. It's true. Stay away from getting involved with these gals. And take taxis at night. My two cents.


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