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I am myself a semi-pro musician. I have worked in many genres, from classic rock to R. & B. I even listen to hiphop and rap, and I'm a fan of several rappers and DJ's.

That being said... I loathe Reggaetone. I mean, really loathe it. The beats (if you can call them that) are pure 1980's old school. The constant "props" that seemingly introduce every song are redundant. Forget the Spanish; I understand one tenth of the patois, and I speak Spanish fairly well. I find the music to be intrusive and distracting.

Perhaps it's because I can't see the sweeties shaking their rumps to the funk. Maybe I'm just too old at 48 to accept this wildly popular genre. I don't know.

There have been numerous posts here about setting the mood for a session with music familiar to the chicas. I'm certain that this is a good idea, but if the music is Reggaetone, I'll get so limp as to develop a second navel.

If I'm setting the mood, I am setting it for both of us; not just her. After all, I'm paying. The Magic CD is now three years old, and I'm looking for Latin music that will set a comfortable and sensual mood for both the lady and for myself.

All suggestions are welcome, but please don't suggest that crap music from P. Limon.

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Pura Vulva! Wandering through the dark, I am El Ciego.

To each his own but IMO reggaeton is the best way to warm up a chica for sexo. Most love reggaeton.

I never liked reggaeton either until one night at bar castro. I took a nica to dance just as a reggaeton set was starting. I thought oh oh not reggaeton. But I was game and we started kind of slow finding the rythm the beat. In a few minutes she was grinding on my schlong and I was grinding back for all I was worth. She turned and bent over and rubbed her #ss into my pelvis for awhile. It really is vertical sexo . It is a great erotic way to get to know a girl and ever since that night in bar castro I have looked at reggaeton differently.

Any time the reggaeton music starts the girls start wiggling and shaking their #ss they can,t help it.


When I bring a gal back to my apt I put on the reggaeton and start dancing with them . Soon they only have the thong on grinding that fine #ss into my groin with my tongue down their throat. Now thats living.

It is the ritmo la jungla and it sure stokes the sexual fires.

Try it you may like it. YMMV

I think that like most music genres, there's always gonna be people that will hate it. Hip-hop has a stong anti-fan base, just as rave music or even country or rock and roll. Rock, specifically, was the "devil's music" in times of Elvis and the Beatles, just as today Bill O'Reilley may consider Ludacris or Snoop Dog as the Satan o' the times.

I personally LOVE reggaeton... It's a hispanic mix of hip-hop and reggae and the origins of it go back to the barrios of Puerto Rico where it was originally called "Underground." The first stages of it had rappers mainly talking about sex, drugs and violence (much related to the evolution in rap where the predominance was "Gangsta Rap"). Puerto Rican Government officials started cracking down on "Underground" and began censoring it due to the messages it sent to the youth and community... It went as far as the government confiscating all albums from stores and the music being banned. If you were caught blasting that kind of music from your car, a policeman was completely in his right to confiscate your tape or cd and fine you.

Underground music kind of fell off the map for about a year or two and made it's comeback with MUCH cleaner lyrics. It was called "Perreo" for a while, and then the name Reggaeton gained its popularity, to which it still keeps that name. What started in Puerto Rico slowly but surely leaked its way into Central and South America, and now has gained great popularity and has finally earned it's "legitmacy and recognition" here in the U.S. Daddy Yankee has earned Grammys, Don Omar has been nominated, and at dance clubs througout the U.S. you can hear the music blasted and people dancing away to our music. And much to my pride, Puerto Rican artists have held and still hold a monopoly on the hit songs within the genre, even to today. The likes of Tego Calderon, Daddy Yankee, Residente Calle 13, Julio Voltio, Don Omar, Ivy Queen, Hector el Bambino, Wisin y Yandell, Zion y Lennox are the super-heavyweights in the genre and all from Puerto Rico.

Personally, I hate European Electronica music, the kind heard at rave clubs. I also am not a fan of country music either. Like the colors of the spectrum, some have favorites among the choices and not everyone agrees on their favorite one. Music comes in many variances, and for each there is a fan base.

I guess I just hope that no one discounts Reggaeton as something that hasn't earned its spot as legitimate music. Be it called Underground, Perreo, or Reggaeton, it's been around since my days in middle school in the late 80's and I hope it's continues to grow and succeed for decades to come.

Here's a FACT... a VAST majority of the latin kittens LOVE reggaeton, and will shake and twist and move in ways to the music which I think MOST people will consider to be quite sexy, sulty, and mouth watering. Is it good for while performing actual sex?? Personally, I agree with Ciego on this one thing, I think it's a distractor (I personally prefer slow r&b, the likes of Toni Braxton, R. Kelly, Joe, Craig David, etc. during the actual sex acts), but I wholeheartedly believe that reggaeton is a good pre-sex/foreplay mood setter, for dancing, for grinding and moving with alot of touching, and for the girl to feel frisky and sexy for you. Anyone who has had the joy of being at a club in CR when the reggaeton is blasting will concur that it definitely emotes a sexiness within women where they just shake their junk in a way that can make the limpest guy harden brood with enticement and curiousity. Hmmmm, God bless, just the memories of the honey-bunnies dancing to the reggaeton beat never fails to bring a smile to my face...

Ruffnutz

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Ruff, thanks for the musicology lesson.

I never questioned the legitimacy of Reggaetone, nor its popularity among the chicas. I never called it the "devil's music" (which to me would be death metal and/or grindcore).

What I'm saying is that Reggaetone leaves me personally cold and often, nauseated. My tastes are toward Latin jazz, boleros, musica romantica, and hybrid bands such as Ozomatli. I like reggae, and I like hip-hop.

My point I guess is this: Fine. The chicas love it. Am I there for their entertainment, or mine, or both? If I'm going to feel the groove and set myself in the proper mood, Reggaetone isn't going to be my music of choice. To each his own.

I have 120 Reggaetone tunes on my hard drive. Mas Flow, Noriega, LooneyTunes, Daddy Yanqui and Don Omar are as familiar to me as Emenem, Snoop, Sage Francis, Atmosphere and Ludicrous. I heven't deleted the files, simply because so many chicas love Reggaetone. OTOH, since I dislike this genre so intensely, she'll have to bend over backwards to get me to play it in my room

Am I wrong, because I don't feel compelled to entertain the chicas with this genre? Should I put on earplugs and go with the (mas) flow? I don't know. Comment on this question, please...but also add your suggestions for non-Reggaetone music that both the chicas and I might equally enjoy.

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Pura Vulva! Wandering through the dark, I am El Ciego.

I like Reggaeton too. I can relate to what El Ciego is saying though. I can see how a professional musician might not have an appreciation for it. I love to see those hot bodies grind to it. The chicas get so sexy when listening to it. ZB livens up immediately when a Daddy Yankee song comes on.

TW,

Whether or not I'm a pro musician isn't the point. I only mentioned it as a preface to my generally open-minded attitude toward all genres of music. I've played music that I didn't particularly like, including country and electronica, and have over time learned to appreciate most genres, even if I don't actively listen to all of them on a daily basis. My bitch with Reggaetone is really non-specific. Just as I don't enjoy eating liver, I don't like Reggaetone.

My question concerns how far I have to go against my own tastes just to please the chicas and improve the session.

I used to have a lover who listened intently to "chick music." I still get the dry heaves from Sarah MacLaughlin, Alanis Morisette, P.J. Harvey and K.D. Lang. I put up with it, because she was a great lay... but I'm less inclined to do it again. It's just damn distracting. Honestly guys, you ever try to keep it up listening to Tori Amos? Yeesh. Reggaetone inspires the same gut-level rebellion in me.

Xman, I'm sure you're right. Third World, you're right too. The babes love this music. Were it not for the chicas though, would you guys really like this music? A little intellectual honesty, please. I can understand Ruffnutz' appreciation for this music considering both his age and national origin... crap, maybe I'm just too damn old and Anglo.

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Pura Vulva! Wandering through the dark, I am El Ciego.

YEah, I genuinely like it. But I mostly listen to hard core rap too. I'm not very age appropriate with anything. haha Seriously though, I go all across the board,, reggae to rap to opera ( though I don't know a lot about it ) . Still I can relate.. My personal hate is the bad 80's music they play. And when I first started hearing reggaeton I hated it. Still don't like Gasolina, even though I like the other songs on the CD.

El C...I'm with you on the Reggaetone issue...personally, while I can see the dance and "foreplay" value of it...more than one song and I am like...NEXT. I'd more liken it to "Monotone" ... Of course, YMMV and perhaps our ages are showing .

One funny story from my musician days. Toured Jamaica back in 1973 (shit this ages me) with a band...bunch of white long hairs trying to play to Jamaicans...kinda funny, right? Anyways, met a few Rastas and of course heard lots of Reggae blaring out of the bars and on the streets of Kingston. Brought back a couple CDs of an up and comer named Bob Marley...played for some musician friends back home and all they could do was crinkle their noses and say "what is THAT shit?". Then about 3-4 years later I run into a couple of these same guys who say...hey man, ya gotta hear this new "8track" (remember those? Gawd I'm old!). Sure enough, Bob Marleys new album. I said to these guys...hey you're way behind on this. Remember those tapes I played you 3 years ago? They would never admit it was the same artist...and all the sudden it was "hip" to be into Raggae music...even these white boys. So early on I realized that musical taste is in large part influenced by Radio and other media who sell it to the cool level. Most of us NEVER hear the best of anything that is coming out...we only hear what the "industry" billionaires WANT you to hear. And now you know...WHY I GOT OUT OF THE MUSIC BUSINESS!

Hey old buddy, I was never incinuating that you thought it was devil music... I was just demonstrating the point that pretty much every music genre or style has it's loathers.

As I said, I agree witcha in terms of sex with the reggaeton playing.

Tman, cool story, and GREAT THREAD!

Ruffnutz

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Ok, EC, here's my list as requested of non-reggaeton music that rocks and definitely gets the panties dropping:

No Se Tu: Luis Miguel

Te Lorre como un Rio: Mana

Rayando el Sol: Mana

Hasta Ayer: Mark Anthony

Antologia: Shakira

Si La Ves: Franco de Vita

Vuelvema a Querer: Cristian Castro

Bachata Rosa: Juan Luis Guerra y 4-40

Salvame: RBD

Vuelve: Ricky Martin

Tu Pirata Soy Yo: Cheyanne



Anything by Ricardo Montaner is perfect for panty-dropping-purposes.

That's just off the top of my head, but those were the great "boleros" during my wonder years and handful of recents.

Ruffnutz

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If yo want to bag chicas from Limon,you better either like it or at least pretend to like it.Two of my current favorite chicas fall into this catagory and only want to listen to 106.3 fm while they are in my house. El C I think you could get "used to it" as I have if you get some beautiful morenas dancing to the beat for you. (sin ropa of course) Think about it.

The chicas dancing to the beat is what gets my attention...not the beat itself. The sexiest thing I saw on my last trip was in Jaco. The Jamaican girl who I picked up in MB dancing In Nacho Daddys. She was totally into it and every guy around us was fixated on her moves. After several songs she broke out into sweat all over. This chick had a perfect body, was wearing sexy , skimpy clothes and was now glistening everywhere skin was showing. The ticos were mesmerized with her. Although she danced to just about anything...it was the reggaetone that brought out the animal in her...and others. Lol... I didn't let her out of my sight until 3pm the next day.

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I have to say I tend to like it even though I can't understand much of it. Growing up in a latin community (Puerto Rican/Dominican) I've heard it all my life. I have many very good memories of grinding it out with chicas through High School and clubs.

My last trip to CR I played a mix for a Dominican chica out of Key Largo at about 11PM, I negotiated for an hour. She seemed to be very business until she heard the first song. Then she just started dancing and grinding. That led in to a long night of rough sexo and long grinding session in between. I just kept switching the two cds that I had back and forth she stayed until about 5AM and had to get back to her K*ds.

Now if you excuse me I have to take a cold shower after replaying that in me mind.

To the best of my memory, which ain't much at my age, in the 70's "Yellowman" from Jamaica, did the first rap to reggae. And 'El General' from Panama had the first big reggaeton hit to play on the radio in Miami. I hate it also but it is fun to dance to when you've had a few and your partner is getting into it. I even dislike listening to 60's rock when I'm in a latin country but what are ya gonna do?

Rap, hip-hop, rave, raggaeton...they all suck. What's up with the drum machines? Can't anyone play the drums anymore? Give me good ole rock & roll any day. Zeppelin, Beatles, Stones, the Who, Clapton, Radiohead, Queen, Guns N' Roses, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Three Doors Down, the Doors, Jimi Hendrix, et al. Ever hear Janis Joplin sing Piece of My Heart? Damn...talk about putting everything you've got into a song!
I like a lot of Spanish rock bands, from Mexico, South America and Spain. I like Shakira and Ricky Martin, but only for short periods.
Long Live Rock and Roll!

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