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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:46 pm 
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If it were that I return to Costa Rica again, I will no longer be staying at the Presidente, the only hotel I have stayed at to this point over the last 5 years. So, can someone point out one or more hotels that are in the same price range and guest friendly. By price, I pay $55+tax in the Presidente, how about a place with similar priciing? By guest friendly, the Presidente has not guest fee, just sign them in, anyone know of another place?


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:11 am 
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I am just saying that if they were banned by the hotel, one would think it would be for good reason (i.e. stealing, drugs, causing a disturbance).


I think you are making the assumption here that they were banned for good reason. I am making the assumption that they were banned only for their refusal to dress according to the Prez's "guidelines". I am going to bet I am right.
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Now if it is strictly a dress code issue, then I have a problem with that. Personally it turns me on to see their boobs hanging out of their shirt or showing lots of leg with a little skirt.

No potato sacks for me!! :lol:


So we agree then, that the dress code is a problem. It's just that we don't really know WHY these girls were banned from there.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:20 am 
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If it were that I return to Costa Rica again, I will no longer be staying at the Presidente, the only hotel I have stayed at to this point over the last 5 years. So, can someone point out one or more hotels that are in the same price range and guest friendly. By price, I pay $55+tax in the Presidente, how about a place with similar priciing? By guest friendly, the Presidente has not guest fee, just sign them in, anyone know of another place?


Looks like the Hotel Castillo and Amon Plaz are the front runners in that price range. Both have good CRT discounts right now, too. If you wanna be close, then the Morazan is an option. The rooms there are very spotty - that is, some are good, and some are lousy. If they are full and you get a lousy one, you're screwed. That happened to me on several different stays there, and made me not want to stay there again. However, now I am re-thinking it since the Prez is not an option, the Del Rey is too noisy and the Gran Via is no longer in biz.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:24 am 
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Yeah, Admin, I'm kind of sick of all the talk, but you must admit that this policy has at best inconvenienced many heretofore loyal guests of the Presidente. At worst, it has wrecked evenings of fun, humiliated the chicas, and insults all of us by extension. We're good enough to pay top dollar for (admittedly very nice) lodgings, but we're not good enough to enjoy the private spaces we've rented. It's a bad policy, because it's unevenly and arbitrarily enforced. ...


You said a mouth full. What gets me, with all due respect, is that Admin1 and others here seem to want to just accept this policy instead of trying to do something about it. Admittedly if the Prez is determined to keep the policy there is not much we can do. But it seems to me with the arrangement they have with CRT and with the number of us who would stay there, we could push the issue some, and try to make a compromise, like them providing a sweater for the girls at the front entrance, etc... Seems to me that everyone just accepting it is not the correct approach. At least I wrote them a couple e-mails to register my own personal dissatisfaction with them.


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You said a mouth full. What gets me, with all due respect, is that Admin1 and others here seem to want to just accept this policy instead of trying to do something about it. Admittedly if the Prez is determined to keep the policy there is not much we can do. But it seems to me with the arrangement they have with CRT and with the number of us who would stay there, we could push the issue some, and try to make a compromise, like them providing a sweater for the girls at the front entrance, etc... Seems to me that everyone just accepting it is not the correct approach. At least I wrote them a couple e-mails to register my own personal dissatisfaction with them.


With all due respect to you Miquel, You have a tremendous amount to say on this subject as so far as you have written to the managment at the Presidente regarding your dissatisfaction. You also seem to be enjoying some other hotel discounts & yet you do not even support this site as a VIP....

I'm not shilling here just the facts. I'm sure when the Presidente evaluates a situation and the person who has made the most noise about it isn't even a VIP they will take your comments with a grain of salt. Pesonally I'd like to see the Presidente policy changed to reflect discounts only for VIP's as with other locations. This might lend more credence to complaints as we then speak as one.

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Have not read this thread in over a week figuring just about everything to say has been said.....but shit, over 3075 hits and over a 100 posts.

Up until perhaps the last year or so, CRS and CRT, our group did have a notable influence on the occupancy rate at the Pres. We certainly made aware and helped bring new lodgers to that hotel for which the management was appreciative and in turn gave us a bit more consideration that the average guest.

What mi amigo, CapoD2, informed us as to "no room at the Inn" for consecutive weekends is part of a revealing fact that I hate to see but even old Circus understands the cold truth. This hotel has evolved to a status whereas they no longer need our business to achieve their occupancy goals. As I have written in the past, the generational control, capital rennovation along with good business practices has made the Presidente what it is today. No hotel I know of in SJ has made this type of effort in all aspects of it's services. And face it, they have a big picture screen TV in the News Cafe........Avenue Central.

Several years ago, Greg at the DR, remarked to me that the owners would rather have had a highly rated and successful hotel, restaurant, casino and bar without being known as a whore establishment. I'm sure they get frustrated with the policia raiding the place. But hey, that's what they became and it probably quited their concerns as the coffers swelled. The Pres apparantly has a different mind set and has found the image they are comfortable with along with offering a venue for a larger spectrum of customers. Whatever, it certainly has worked successfully.

Yea, I think they are a bit hasty and perhaps inconsistant in their dress code practice but as one of our renounded members always remarks..."NEXT." Remember, you go with the flow and each individual designs his CR visits to his own personal needs. For us seasoned members who stayed at the Pres prior mid 2001, we kinda miss that small little front desk that was once where the restaurant is, the news store and the basically mom and pop way the hotel was run and there always being a room available but shit.....I miss a lot of things from years gone by......expecially when my pecker saluted me every morning and night.

Try and quit worrying about what you have no influence in changing. Just be glad you are fortunate enough to enjoy the CR that is there today......it may very well change to your discord in the future.

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Several years ago, Greg at the DR, remarked to me that the owners would rather have had a highly rated and successful hotel, restaurant, casino and bar without being known as a whore establishment. I'm sure they get frustrated with the policia raiding the place. But hey, that's what they became and it probably quited their concerns as the coffers swelled. The Pres apparantly has a different mind set and has found the image they are comfortable with along with offering a venue for a larger spectrum of customers. Whatever, it certainly has worked successfully.
Yes Greg, Tim & John may tell you something like this but don't kidd yourself they knew what they were doing. I would say the same thing also just smart business too me. Who needs to advertise they put together the single most famous P4P business in CR. They have had to deal with many threats thru the years & have dealt with it all quit well.

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What gets me, with all due respect, is that Admin1 and others here seem to want to just accept this policy instead of trying to do something about it.
I don't know what your true agenda is here & have to agree with Capo. It is not a CRT issue to try to tell Ticos or other people how to run their business. It is one thing to represent yourself as a large group to do business with someone as an incentive to all but the Presidente knows about CRT & is telling us they do not want to cater to us all that much obvious :idea: . If you don't like the Presidente's rules find another hotel, that simple. I don't like the rules either but is doesn't effect me much like I mentioned. I don't like the way the low rent ones dress anyway & sooooooo..... Funny how the security guys make their decisions on which Chicas are P4P. I have a few I have known for several years & I just go to the elevator & no one says a word. I guess they know they have not seen this one working or she looks like my wife type :shock: ??

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I've already voiced my opinion on this subject so I won't rehash it here.

I do want to make one point regarding the Miguel Blano's comments about the girls being "banned" from the Presidente for not adhering to the dress code.

If the security guard determines that the girl's attire is inappropriate she is stopped before entering the hotel. Thus there is no record of her being refused entry in the hotel database.

In order to be "banned" a girl has to have already been in the database then done something to keep her from getting into the hotel again.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:18 pm 
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You said a mouth full. What gets me, with all due respect, is that Admin1 and others here seem to want to just accept this policy instead of trying to do something about it. Admittedly if the Prez is determined to keep the policy there is not much we can do. But it seems to me with the arrangement they have with CRT and with the number of us who would stay there, we could push the issue some, and try to make a compromise, like them providing a sweater for the girls at the front entrance, etc... Seems to me that everyone just accepting it is not the correct approach. At least I wrote them a couple e-mails to register my own personal dissatisfaction with them.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:41 pm 
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We're good enough to pay top dollar for (admittedly very nice) lodgings,...
Actually (with our +-25% discount) compared to what the regular tourists are paying, we pay no where near "top dollar".. If demand for rooms is as high as it appears by regular tourists paying 25% more, you have to wonder if our days as guests in the hotel are numbered, if it were my business I'd be looking at that bottom line and considering the fact that most of the troublemakers and noisy guests are mongers getting discount rooms. Only time will tell their long-term agenda but it appears the hotel IS trying to maintain a delicate balance at this point and still accomodate us. The more trouble mongers cause in the hotel will only shorten the time before the welcome mat is pulled from under our feet IMO.
The policy sucks and you also might be expected to be discreet and keep the noise down at 3AM, too much infringement on your personal freedoms go stay someplace else.

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I've posted my views against the Prez policy, so I'll spare you all the pain of repeating them yet again. However, I would like to make one comment on BEHALF of the Prez for those guys considering moving elsewhere. This came to mind with Wit's post.

Btw, I think he's right that the girls could not have been banned just for clothing violations, however some could be turning down dates at the Prez for reasons other than banning. It may not seem to be good business sense to some, but neither does holding out for cien when you could have gone back and forth 2-3 times for $60-70. So who really knows how some of these girls think.

Anyway, back on the subject of banning as a feather in the cap of the Prez, I think it is really to the Prez's credit that they have such a database. To my knowledge no other hotel in the area has anything like it. It serves as one extra layer of protection for guys who are bringing girls back to their room who they really don't always not anything about. Those guys who are furiously searching for alternatives to the Prez should really think about that. When you next go to SJ and stay at a hotel that lets just any girl in with a cedula or worse stay at an apartment where you don't have to check in the chica at all, you have much less insurance about who you're bringing back. Prez dress code excluded, I always looked at the chica check-in process as a small hassle (and sometimes at other places a small fee) to pay for the extra protection it provides.


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BTW, I'm not kidding myself. I well understand how they evolved and do not detect any displaced conscience of the final results. It's my assertion that they did not set out initially to be the "best little whorehouse in CR.".....damn, good title for a movie or play....you think? The DR's first years were touch and go just keeping the hotel afloat. Doesn't make any difference anyway. Just reflecting different business practices in comparing the two establishments.

I still like the Pres and will continue staying there. I could care less about the dress code since none of the ticas want my deplorable body, face and two inch pecker.

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"best little whorehouse in CR.".....damn, good title for a movie or play....you think?
I sure like the sound of it. Instant hit for sure. You know it is only a matter of time a movie will be produced about this. With the increase # of travelers going abroad seeking no hassle sexual fulfillment while avoiding all the USA attorneys, Govt & the sexual harassment charges it is probably not far fetched. Hell you could be the star Circus. We could get you back in the saddle with the Chicas. We could all have different roles in the movie. I might even come out of hiding for this event :P . Maybe we should beat Hollywood to the punch & make our own movie. You know they will find this website & steal some of our lines? Can I be the director :o ?

Most hotels in CR do not make much money especially on the beach. The ones in San Jose do better for the most part. Occupancy rates have been running higher over the past few years so this should help many out. Obvious the Pres. has been doing well enough to add a dress code. We might be wise not to press our luck with our behavior with the Latinas at the Pres. Paco makes some very valid points about losing the discount. Some bad drunken or worse mongering behavior may have caused this code in the first place. Management may have decided that if Latinas dress properly she is from a better class & will cause less embarrassment to there normal tourist clientele. They are not afraid of pissing some off that will not return. My bet is they figure they will get rid of some of the drunk older low class guys pawing over some 19 year old chica saying disgusting things that affect their core business. I have seen this at times at breakfast in their restaurant area.

Funny how HDR worked out over time. Many hotels would try to run off working girls from hanging around. HDR has many restrictions on Chicas also but dress code like the Pres. I bet will never be one of them. Sometimes when I see some of the dress I wish they did. Seen a few Latinas that needed to wash the clothes :shock: ! No one has duplicated HDR operation successfully. We may see this change soon. Keep your eye on Jaco :wink: !

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WOW, 117 post on the Pres. :lol: Just think what a political thread would bring. Hint, Hint. :wink:

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Please excuse me for extending this thread, but I need to tell you fellas that although I did have a couple women turn me down as far as going to the Presidente- I will continue to stay at their hotel. If I must have a scantly-clad woman or a woman who refuses to go to the hotel, I will simply stay at a short-time hotel (and pay the $15-$25 extra).

I looked at the alternatives and as far as cost, location, cleanliness, convenience, etc., the Pres is simply the best. I will probably stay there over Labor Day if I am able to make it and they have rooms still available. The discount and location are worth the chica hassle IMO now that I have had time to think about my experience and also look at the alternatives.


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