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If PacoLoco is right and I trust he is, then it is a good thing to not go with these girls that are banned. They were banned for a reason. I felt sorry for the girl that had to put on a longer skirt and she felt silly walking around like that. However, we still had a great time and she was able to laugh about it rather than feel humiliated or cheap. I am lukewarm to staying there on my next trip. I love the Sportsbar upstairs, the prime location, the breakfast, and the service at the hotel. It is very convenient in several ways (taxis 24/7 around back, departure tax counter, etc.).

PacoLoco- will you stay there again?

I don't know whether they are refusing to go out of some sort or principle or because they've been banned for some sort of reason. However, what Paco says makes a lot of sense and I tend to believe his interpretation.

That said, I think you 2 guys took what Paco said and twisted it as much the other way, backing up the Prez, as Miguel slanted his post against them. Paco was trying to state a neutral position, ie not defending or attacking the Prez. ALL he said was that "the only ones "refusing" to go there are on the list for one reason or another". He NEVER said the reason they might have been banned was a GOOD one.

Dalvy, MAYBE weeding out "sluttily dressed chicas" is a good thing FOR THE PREZ. Maybe, I'm not so sure it is, but that is their call). Is it such a good thing FOR US. Some guys LIKE slutty looking women. More significantly, the Prez's definition of slutty is not necessarily the same as yours or mine. Apparently, it would be a real stretch to describe at least some of the chicas being turned away as being dressed like sluts. Their real crime - perhaps just the whim of the guard and the manager or maybe the fact that they are young and attractive and with an old fat guy and by that fact alone obvious in what they are there for. Rather, than continuing to blindly defend the Prez shouldn't we be taking a realistic look at their policy from our perspective. Shouldn't our position be that we should be able to bring back whomever we want (provided we can do so in a way that does not disturb the Prez's other guests). If our tastes run towards sexily dressed chicas that prudish ecotourists find slutty why shouldn't we be able to bring them back discretely by being able to provide a coat for them when going through the lobby or even walking straight through if it is after midnight and all the eco-tourists are asleep in their beds. Where is the middle gorund here? What the Prez is doing seems to go way beyond what they could argue is necessary if the real reason for their actions is as they say.

Ashford, if the chicas were banned for stealing from us or causing a real disturbance, what you say would be true. We need the Prez to help us screen for that. But if their only crime is how they dress and we can see and judge for ourselves how they are dressed, why do we need the Prez to "help" us in that regard? I'm confused. Your post makes no sense to me.

If you're like Wit and come to the Gulch mainly to gamble and meet with friends and only occasionally bring a chica back and always a conservatively dressed one at that, then maybe the Prez is still your place. If you're like most Gulch visitors who bring chicas back almost every night (if not even more so) and sometimes are attracted to chicas that are dressed borderline or worse (which apparently includes a significant %-age of BM chicas), the chances are starting to stack up that you'll run into some problems sooner rather than later. If that is no big deal for you, enjoy your stay. Most mongers, including many long-time Prez fans, will be put off by that hassle and at this point are at the very least reconsidering their hotel allegiances.

Does the Prez really care if they do or not? Were they trying to find the middle ground as early defenders of their policy maintained or was their plan really to discourage our business from the very start? Now those are the only real remaining questions.

I don't think the reason some DR girls won't go to prez has anything to do with being banned. They know they won't get in because they are dressed in a way that makes them more sexually disirable than most. A hot outfit goes a long ways with some guys, me included. I guess the prez lovers are gonna have to settle for the potato sack chicas while the rest of us collect the hotties & trade 'em with our friends like baseball cards. Don't anyone get thier boxers in a wad... I'm sure there's a few pretty girls that wear potato sacks somewhere in the gulch.

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I am just saying that if they were banned by the hotel, one would think it would be for good reason (i.e. stealing, drugs, causing a disturbance). I don't want to be involved with those things in another country, so yeah the Pres is doing us a favor by telling them not to come back.

Now if it is strictly a dress code issue, then I have a problem with that. Personally it turns me on to see their boobs hanging out of their shirt or showing lots of leg with a little skirt.

No potato sacks for me!!

Thanks for your map Prolijo BTW-

Lots of leg is what I want to see too ! I would love to know who the crackpot is who decided that exposed legs, shoulders, & mid-riffs are inappropriate. What a complete tool.

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Now I think Shawn is really on to something. Some of us were initially saying that the the dress code at the Prez might not matter that much because most chicas would just adjust their wardrobe in order to not lose the business. But maybe its not that simple. If their choice is to dress down so as not to loose out on a few dates at the Prez or to continue to dress to the max to advertise their wares to a larger audience, maybe they've figured they have more to lose by not following the latter route. If it were just a matter of carrying a wrap to throw over their top in order to pass the Prez's inspection it might be one thing, but apparently they can sometimes try to dress more conservatively while still trying to look sexy and STILL not pass muster. Who can blame them then for saying "Aw Phuck it"?

Ok..sorry Admin 1 but another first hand report. I've been here 24 hours and have checked in two different girls. We have come in and out several times with no problems and no questions.

Again, the dress code is not a problem for me and most of the girls know what it already. I did bring an army shirt to use as a jacket her the chucas if necessary.

In country 24 hours and already have a smile on my face!

I have to agree with Zippy on this one. I want what I want not what some hotel thinks is acceptable for their taste. If I feel like a slut, then I want a slut. If I feel like a average look, then average it is.

I love the Pres but I'm changing reservations.

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And this thread continues on and on and on... Are we yet tired of the continuous banter on the length of a chicas skirt......

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Guys, this is great...

I just got a line on several slightly-used Catholic nun's habits, complete with veil, wimple (the thing that goes around her face), chasible and gown. No excuses now. PM me for details; they'll be available for rent or purchase at very reasonable costs if shipped to a U.S. address.



Also available: Flour/potato sacks, large garbage bags with arm/neck holes precut, and oddly, a few Nixon masks (rubber, over-the-head design). Just let me know.

Yeah, Admin, I'm kind of sick of all the talk, but you must admit that this policy has at best inconvenienced many heretofore loyal guests of the Presidente. At worst, it has wrecked evenings of fun, humiliated the chicas, and insults all of us by extension. We're good enough to pay top dollar for (admittedly very nice) lodgings, but we're not good enough to enjoy the private spaces we've rented. It's a bad policy, because it's unevenly and arbitrarily enforced. We can do nothing about the policy, so perhaps it's best to allow the banter to continue? Blows off steam, dontcha know...

TW, hilarious. I just got the most frightening mental picture of a bunch of middle-aged gringos dropping trou and getting the finger wave at the Rail.

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And I thought all this chatter would give me an opportunity to get a room there.... Well, E-mailed The lovely M&W at the Pres and I still can't get a room on 3 separate weekends I gave them options for...

I guess that means that the policy has not discouraged anyone from staying there, so with great respect to my fellow brothers I state this
You make the call

1. Get with the program and stop bitching.

2. Don't get with the program, stay somewhere else so I can get a room

3. Don't get with the progrm continue to stay there & Stop bitching about it.

Anyway you look at it I still can't get a room... so whats the point of whipping a dead horse?

Wait with all this going on at the Pres does that mean we have forgotten about the Double single issue at Kamur... I figure why not just revive some really good topics that have been beaten to death...

PURA VIDA.. I still can't get a room Circus any room under the box for me brother?

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At least it hasn't discouraged REGULAR guests. If the Prez mgmt is right it might have even encouraged more of them. Whether it hasn't discouraged MONGER guests or whether it really says anything one way or the other about the long term effect their new policy is still an open question to many of us. Maybe they are still working off a backlog of existing reservations and guys are just keeping their reservations and staying at the Prez to see for themselves. I think a better measurement is what percentage of guys who have stayed at the Prez since this policy went into effect have come back or aren't at least seriously reconsidering their allegiances. My guess is that the true diehards are in the minority and the rest are at least shopping around for viable alternatives.

I have been to CR five times and have always stayed at the Pres. Back in 8-2000 when I made my first trip, the Pres. and Del Rey were the places to stay.

I already have a room reserved there late this month.

I just feel more comfortable there, I love the jacuzzi on the top floor, and this trip I have a jacuzzi suite for 85 bucks a night.

If I had as many trips under my belt as some of you guys then I would feel better about moving around. I will hang out at the SL and may consider staying there in the next trip or so. I won't consider the Del Rey.

I have mentioned in this thread that I understand what the Pres. is doing. With knowledge beforehand, any misunderstanding would mainly be my fault.

Sorry for the earlier post. Apparently I offended some and was out of line. No offense intended.