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I do believe there is that hidden scent of attraction between men and women at certain stages of life where it just happens without "game" and trying.


I agree, T, it can happen anytime, when you least expect it, if her interst level is high initially. More often than not, there's an imbalance of interest. She comes in at 90% interest in you but you're in the 70 percentile, or the other way around. That's the pisser.

I believe it is about numbers, because lets face it, guys like a lot of women having interest in them. But the priciples of being a challenge relate to catching a partner, as well. It's not just about posturing or playing games. It's about appealing to that deep female need, embedded in female genes and etched in their cave-woman brain, to find a man who's strong and confident. A normal response to getting turned down by 9 women when asking for their number, is to cry and say "Why me?" But the 10th woman doesn't give a shit about your problems. She wants you to risk yet another time, and ask for her number, unphased. Remember, women will never risk what we have to. They just show up and look good. We pick, but unfortunately, they choose.

The difference in a gfe and a gf is really a mountain. But what about the middle area? The girl who phucks you, not because you pay her or because she's your girlfriend or wife, but only because she's got high interest level in you. That's a new frontiere for me and I'm loving it. I just wish I knew about it whan I was younger.

That one I'll take to my grave.

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Ok this is all fine & good but lets face it what stirs their interest level most efficiently I believe is money & that is why P4P exist & why we are such a big hit down south. Women excuse a lot of things if you are a good provider & they think you are the answer to solving all the problems they either have or have made. Sure you have to be clean & neat & a certain level of looks & bad boy about you to finish the job but the aura of money is a huge catalyst.

Young women go more for image & older ones that have half a brain & have experienced life & the school of hard knocks put less emphasis on image & looks & more on security as the clock keeps ticking. This bad boy image is cute & intrigues women to a point & you are right they like a challenge & they all want to feel like they have a special guy they are proud of but think these kind of adds about yourself with the arrogance you have to be perfect & are you good enough for me & this is all I will except has the aura of money sound to it. Like you are an arrogant filthy rich brat & I can afford the best or what I want & this maybe what helps them respond to this also? :?

I agree there is a mountain of difference between GFE & GF but I get both these types to give me a honeymoon experience 90 plus percent of the time so as far as sex goes there is no difference to me. I find someone more my own age to share life’s deeper & more functional parts but hard to beat a honeymoon sexcapaid with a hot 20 year old. For me I see this the ideal way for example what Dave has is perfect I think. He has the best of both worlds with a wonderfully open minded wife & sports around at the same time. :D

This is the biggest difference between the cultures of more sophisticated puritan type or simplistic non puritan type culture. The simple cultures seem too me to have one style of sex & that is when they commit regardless of what was the reason they do it the same as with their boyfriend that is all they know until they work at P4P long enough then it finally will change. But the beauty is there are always many new players trying this & I have never find it hard to find the less experienced ones that like to enjoy equally.

I have some really nice arrangements with some Latinas as they like the sex part just as much as me it appears & get paid on top of this & been doing this for years with them without anyone putting any ugly twists or undo pressure on the situation. Latinas seem to deal with this better than the gringas. The gringas always wanted to move forwards mainly or backwards where the Latinas don’t seem to mind & accept sideways. Maybe this is because they have the mysterious mistress role that exists in their culture?

In the more sophisticated puritan cultures you get all the different variations of attitude according to the situation. Most P4P gringas do not want to achieve orgasm at least I have found compared to the simplistic cultures & I am not talking about the fake orgasms. Many gringa P4P would tell me don’t worry about me or stop that please as I don’t want to feel that good with someone I do not have feelings for. The simplistic cultures seem to just go for it & enjoy the feeling period. I think that is why so many of us like the cultures south of our border as even though it is not all real it sure looks & feels like it is. As always YMMV.
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The girl who phucks you, not because you pay her or because she's your girlfriend or wife, but only because she's got high interest level in you. That's a new frontiere for me and I'm loving it.


This I find interesting about myself because I had all these types that had this interest & I did not have to pay them but what I find more attractive or what gets me real hard is P4P & I think I simply get off on the bad naughty girl thing that many have it is more fun than many of the free ones & they know more how to nasty but really better to mix the two. We are all different what gets us going no doubt. Also I found these that have such a high level of interest especially if they are gringa get real dangerous as this high of interest can turn it to love all too easy & that is where it can just get too crazy for me. :shock: :? :D


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Interesting site Dapanz, use my password if you guys want :wink:
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I found this from the site interesting... anyone wants more pm me.
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From Chapter 3:
The Six Things That Attract Women
I've done a lot of research on this topic, and I believe that women are most attracted to these six thing:

1) Means (Wealth, possessions, gifts to them or providing for them)
2) Power (Influence, Leadership, provide safety)
3) Fame
4) Looks (Including height)
5) Exclusivity (Royalty, already married, hard to get, affiliation)
6) Personality (Humor, creativity, romance, intelligence, mystique etc.)

By the way, the one quality that attracts women the most (and keeps them attracted) is not something that they can initially 'look' for. It's the way they FEEL when they are with you or thinking of you. In the end, if you don't have wealth, power, fame, or looks you're going to have to use your personality to make them FEEL good. In the end, your personality is the most powerful weapon you have... [continued in Chapter 3]
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Sample #9:
The Lover And Provider Personalities
The Eight Personality Types Of Men Who Are Successful With Women
In a nutshell:
I believe that women respond AUTOMATICALLY to certain men, and that most of this response is based on the man's personality, communication, achievements, etc. - not his looks (don't get me wrong. Looks are important. But they're not nearly as important in the long run as personality).

Women are usually not consciously aware of why they react to these Personality Types.
These personalities can be divided into two basic groups: The Lover and The Provider.

Women respond to Lover personalities by having sex with them immediately.
Women respond to Provider personalities by withholding sex in order to make the man prove that he will stay loyal for the long run.

These are the two mental roads - Lover (short term) or Provider (long term). If you get on one road, it's hard to get off. So choose wisely.

For each of the two successful Personality Types, there are four variations. These are created by combining the factors of 'Dominant vs. Submissive' with the basic personalities. This brings the total to eight sub-types that are successful with women... here's a short description of the eight personalities with the appeals that they have to women:

Lover Personalities:
Bad Boy (danger) Someone who's dangerous and thrilling to be around.
Adventurer (fun) Someone who's fun and exciting to be around.
Seducer (sex) Someone who is sensual and sexy and makes her feel sexy.
Artist (Musician, Poet) (emotion) Someone who moves her emotions and is enigmatic and complex.

Provider Personalities:
Successful Guy (means) Someone who provides a great lifestyle and stability.
Daddy (control) Someone who tells her what to do and controls her.
Regular Guy (loyalty) Someone who is down to earth, loyal and stable.
Ass Kissing Guy (her boy) Someone who gives her whatever she wants.
Most of the women in this world will respond to ALL of these personalities to one extent or another.
[Continued in Bonus Report #1]

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From Chapter 3:
The Six Things That Attract Women
I've done a lot of research on this topic, and I believe that women are most attracted to these six thing:

1) Means (Wealth, possessions, gifts to them or providing for them)
2) Power (Influence, Leadership, provide safety)
3) Fame
4) Looks (Including height)
5) Exclusivity (Royalty, already married, hard to get, affiliation)
6) Personality (Humor, creativity, romance, intelligence, mystique etc.)

Looks too me like 1,2,3 & 5 have a form of money attached too them & # 4 & 6 don't but then I guess money does alter your looks like Michael Jackson but not always for the better? :D


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I posted JM's message in the Tampa Forum yesterday and got 3 replies.

The first said "LMAO..well said. Good Luck :)"

The second said "Whatever.... I am 32, and 5'8". If I said I was a size four, I would be lying. At least you're honest about what you want: a fantasy. You said nothing in your ad about what you have to offer."

The third said "All I have to say is you are phucking RETARDED and no wonder you are alone at your OLD OLD OLD OLD OLD OLD OLD OLD OLD OLD OLD OLD OLD OLD OLD AGE."

And the final one was from CraigsList and said:
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Several craigslist readers flagged it for the following reasons:

SPAM: posting appears to have been posted too frequently, OR in too many categories, OR is being regarded as commercial spam. To advertise a business or service, please post under "services offered"
DISCUSSION: posting appears to be discussing a previous posting

The flagging system is a work-in-progress, with all the pros and cons of a democracy - Please post suggestions for improvement in the feedback forum: ...


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I don't at all disagree that money is a "lubercant" for women. Women are turned on by successful men. But if you can only attract hookers with your money, you're tapping into only a segment of the female public. One could argue all women are hookers, but for purposes of this discussion, we might elevate our thinking, and define "hookers" as the "cash transaction" types.

Civilian women are also attracted to money, but not to be used as a conscious exchange for sex. So what will motivate them to have sex, if not a direct exchange for cash? Assuming she starts out with a base level of interest in you, challenge. One might think that while a civilian won't exchange sex for cash, she will get "turned on" by your wealth, and go to bed with you, but I find that reasoning flawed. Your money and success may get you a second date with a smokin' hot, civilian babe, but if that's all you have to offer her, you better hope she turns into a hooker on the spot, because otherwise she's outta here.

I think women put guys into two categories from the first moments; "boyfriend material" and "other". If you're in "other", she has below 50% interest in you, and you would do well to immediately recognize that and move on. Guys foolishly think they can turn that around - to cause her to have genuine interest in you - and thereby cause themselves a lot of grief. Cut your losses quick, no matter how gorgeous she is.

On the other hand if you get early "interest" signals - flipping her hair when she talks to you, lots of eye contact, and especially if she touches you when she speaks - you're in the above 50% interst level and in the possible "boyfriend material" club. Now if you play it cool over a period of time - don't get on bended knee professing your love, call her constantly, try to kiss her or phuck her before you get lots of "buy" signals, etc. - you got a live one.

Worried she'll fall in love? To me that's not such a big deal. You can just disappear to CR or BR for a week and that should cool things down (lol). For me it's a bigger problem if I fall in love, at least for the time being. And that's not always so easy to guard against....

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Pro - Sounds to me like all 3 are candidates (lol)! At least there's "life" out there. Think you would have gotten even one response if you said what a nice guy you are?

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Sure, money and security are really important for women...both P4P and GFs. But, for long term passion, there is no substitute for personality, sense of humor, sharing like interests, and of course both being sexually compatible and of equal experience or preferences. Women who have their OWN money are more concerned of whether you are interesting and passionate enough to meet their constant fantasies. Most of us do not realize how truly sexual MOST women are. Some of us are afraid to find out...or unwilling to pay the price.

OK...so I'm a romantic. Didnt know that, did ya? :roll:


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Pro - Sounds to me like all 3 are candidates (lol)! At least there's "life" out there. Think you would have gotten even one response if you said what a nice guy you are?
I sent a reply to the last one informing her that I was just playing around to see what sort of reaction I'd get and to thank her for not disappointing me. I got this immediate reply:
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what a warped waste of time you are. If you weren't alone and actually got any pu*sy every now and again, you would have something better to do. Its even more pathetic that you did it just for fun. Really Pathetic.

Find a better hobby. Like a puzzle or bridge or something. I am sure your old eyes cant handle a computer screen for too long. Oh and the ave age is in the 90's, but the ave age for stroke victims is 48, so good luck grams. Find a better hobby.

Do not write me again. I am only 16 and I will turn you in


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Wow. Hell hath no fury like a gringa scorned.
:lol:

I recently posted an ad on AFF. Mine was more direct. I won't quote it here, as most would find the ad boring, but suffice to say I was honest and direct about my age, blindness and weiner dimensions. :oops: Eleven replies so far in two days.

Point is: There are numerous women who are seeking as avidly as we are. If the long-term costs weren't so daunting, it might even be worth giving up p4p in C.R.
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Then again....

Na-a-a-ah.... :lol:

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There are numerous women who are seeking as avidly as we are.


This is obvious as they are running out of their last victim’s money, now heavier & since many men have become wiser like here & started their boycott in all ads up to desperation since many men don't want to volunteer to be their next victim. :D I bet the Chinese vibrator sells will go thru the roof in the near future as all these baby boomers spread out! :? I am not running any of these ads or any ads for that fact I will let all of you real these gringas in. :D

Thanks for sharing all these responses it is great entertainment! 8) 8)


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I know I'll phuck this last one. She's primed, sent me all kinds of pics, showed off her silicone, a video of her singing - pretty impressive since she wants me to "rethink" my approach.

The one who said she's out of my age requirements is very cool, maybe 38, slim and a fox. Also educated. There were many more that I discarded.

I'm curious to hear the follow-up on this. It doesn't surprise me that an ad like this got all sorts of responses. Whether it would really "pay off" in the form of getting some actual worthwhile nookie is another question. Did Jazz (or Solamente) follow up the responses and exchanges of e-mails to actually MIRL (meet in real life) with any of these gals? Were those pictures that were sent for real? If they really were young and hot did their interest in you wane when they saw you in real-life? Did they capture your interest or did you really leave them with the check? And most importantly did ANYONE actually get some pu*sy out of using this technique? And, even if you did get some pu*sy of some sort out of this, aside from the entertainment value of going through this process was it all really worth it after factoring the time involved in vetting, money spent when meeting and all the other usual hang-ups that come with going with gringas of any age? Like I said, I'm not surprised at all this got lots of response but I'm much more dubious it really led to anything real or worthwhile.


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Yeah, Prolijo, I got laid once, got stood up once, and some other interesting replies...

my problem is, I'm still too phuckin nice. I can't keep the bad boy going as well as I think I need to. I am definitely arrogant, but can't seem to deliver it in the right format.
Some girls say they see right through it and think I'm insecure LOL
Some girls are (or at least act) like they are offended by it and blow me off. Some of them think they are in love with me.
The mix that seems to work best is to be sweet, and nice, but drop funny and arrogant comments in it. I did this last might at a club downtown, and I had an 8-girl party, total strangers, wrap their bodies around me right at the club, kiss me, compliment me, and demand my phone number (2 of them) even though they had boyfriends.
To qualify tho, they were definitely drunk. No, I didn't take em home, didn't really want to. Too much phucking trouble. I don't mind going out to play, but it really is a pain in the ass. Damn gringas.
I think next time I am in that setting, I will make sure I know where the closest hotels are, and simply tell them I want to phuck them real hard right on the spot. It's either that, or just take off, and go on home, which is what I did. Even if I got a room, and pulled it off, it's an expensive pain in the ass (10 dollar drinks, room, etc) A couple nights of that crapshoot would equal airfare to Costa Rica. Do I really want that?
I prefer a good girlfriend who knows me, knows how I lay the pipe in bed, and will be "on tap". In this setting, I also know better how to please a girl, rather than just bangin away w a stranger. Getting a girl off and being her addiction is what really does it for me.
One of the things that dating guru teaches is HUMOR. I am working on brushing up on that, jokes, improv, etc. I think this is the key, otherwise the rest of it doesn't work well at all.
I am working on a new ad along similar lines as the one Jazz Musician wrote, will let you all know how it goes. The original ad, when I post it now, gets flagged and removed immediately. Maybe its so outrageous they don't take it seriously.
Sorry for the long post. Anybody else?

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Getting a girl off and being her addiction is what really does it for me.
I always liked this part like most of us but it always came with it's own type of price! :? It was fine if I liked them as well as they did me but once you try to get away from some of these as you put it addiction it can be a major pain.

Men are every bit as bad or worse being possessive than women. We all have too really like the performance we get from a woman that really loves us, it just has a different price which is ok as long as you can live through it all?

True mongering is not as fulfilling as a real women that truly like you but it is much easier to get free from also. This is why you need to get down to these countries & experience a different level of fulfillment. The true GFFE types that can turn your world upside down in what appears to be true affection & joy for both with a very reasonable cost as long as you don't go crazy!

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