Orange wrote:
BashfulDwarf wrote:
I do think it's important to adopt local custom with regard to money. The locals do not tip, and we should follow suit. However, exceptional 'out of the ordinary' service should be rewarded. She'll not see it as a sucker move, but recognition of how hard she worked. They know the difference.
Unfortunately, what's already done probably can't be undone. At this point, any gringo who flat out doesn't tip will have the girls caling him a cheapskate.
True but guess what, I do not give a flying pluck what they call me for not tipping!! Please don't hate me and I don't want to start a war of words here but, IMHO that is exactly what is wrong with this whole situation. Gringos worry way too damn much about what the chica will think of them!! (bread into them by the women in the states) For Gods sake, we are talking about putas, not girlfriends, who we are paying to give us a good and satisfying 1/2 hour or hour of sex; and especially for the tourist monger, may never see her again!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We are not (I hope) paying for, nor looking for a long term relationship! With very few exceptions, anyone who is, is looking in the wrong place.
I live here, I do several sessions a week, I seldom tip and when I do it is small compared to most gringos, I am old, fat, and certainly not handsome, and I have more chicas calling me everyday than I could do in a week even if I was 20 and rich!!! Yes, there are some who would and do call me "chino" but do I really give a damn? NO!!!! For everyone of those, there are a 100 who will gladly take my money, give "outstanding service", and not complain!!!!
And because of the wide spread over tipping for years by so many gringos, YES, they do look at virtually all gringos as "suckers". But that is alright, they will still gladly take your money and will never tell you that you are giving too much!!!!
As for exceptional "out of the ordinary" service, that use to be normal service till they learned that gringos were so easy to please (because almost anything was often better than what the gringo got at home) that they (the chicas here) could give less service and then when they felt they had an over-paying "sucker", they could kick it up a notch and get the big tip for service "out of the ordinary"!!! Many guys are now going to Colombia because the chicas there give so much "better" service; service like the chicas here gave 15-20 years ago. My friends who now go to Colombia are saying the same thing is already beginning to happen there. Expectations (from the chicas) are higher and service is dropping!!!!
Unfortunately, as Orange says, "what's already done probably can't be undone" and all my, nor anyone else's, ranting will not change the situation!!! So why do I try? Because I an a stuborn, hard headed old fart!!!jejejejje

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