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Sorry to hear that my friend, thats never easy to do, and even harder this time of the year. Hopefully when we turn that corner they say it's coming, you might be able to hire some back, and get back on top of things.

just curious, what kind of business?

and as far as our boys having to pull triple or more tours, i believe every swinging dick in this country should have to pull a 3 year hitch, mandatory...and if they don't like that, then drop them from 20,000 feet over iraq or afganistan...with no parachutes!

it's not right a handle of guys have to do all the dirty work, 3 or more times over. national service, mandatory, let everyone pull their share.

i feel for business owners like you and even more so for the guys pulling multiple tours.

total fubar.

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Agree 100%. Bring back the draft. Good start for all to start understanding teamwork. I always laugh every time a corporate VP gets up their asses to send us to some team building exercise. Maybe if they have been drafted they would understand the true meaning of team. Thank you for letting me rant.

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wow, bet they were pretty well paying jobs too.

that's rough.

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Disagree. The draft, because of loopholes and other anomalies, places an unfair burden on the lower socio-economic sections of the population.

I believe a fairer system would be compulsory military service, for both males and females, after high school or at age 18 for those who drop out before graduation. You would have a choice of signing up for a term of 1, 2, 3 or 4 years. After you fulfill your commitment the government would pay for your tuition, books and a small monthly stipend on an equal basis of 1 year for 1 year of service at a State University or technical school. For those who have the means and desire to attend a private university you would get a cash credit equal to the cost of a state school. Naturally for those who signed up for less then four years could extend their commitment each year up to the maximum of 4.

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So when my K*D tells me he wants to stay on XBox Live just a little longer to finish his "mission", I should see the long term reward?

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I served when we had a draft, but, I'm not certain that it is the way to go. However, I will say that requiring all 18 year olds to serve 18-24 months of national service might improve our overall civic mindedness. Military, inner city work, teachers aides, hospital work, old folks homes, humane society etc, you name it. The same national service could also be used as a fast track for aliens who wish to become contributing citizens.

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here is a jobs report

NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. private employers shed 169.000 jobs in November, fewer than the 195,000 jobs lost in October, a report by a private employment service said on Wednesday.

The October fall was originally reported at 203,000.

The median of estimates from 30 economists surveyed by Reuters for the ADP Employer Services report, jointly developed with Macroeconomic Advisers LLC, was for decline of 155,000 private-sector jobs last month.

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a mandatory national service program would indeed put a lot of our unemployed to work and instill some needed civic values.

I am also amazed at the large number of highly skilled and educated workers losing jobs such as Srilm business offered.

I remember people with Phd's pumping gasoline in Silicon Valley after the dot com crash.

I think it is worse now.

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[quote="Irish Drifter"][quote="J0sie"]

Disagree. The draft, because of loopholes and other anomalies, places an unfair burden on the lower socio-economic sections of the population.

Hey ID I don't disagree with your statement, mainly because it is true but... The current system ALSO places a heavily skewed burden on the lower socio-economic strata. I know. I was one of them and it continues today. When I got out of high school I had no scholarships, no college plans and what looked to be a career in construction. After a near tragic accident my first year out of high school I quickly discovered that it would be far better to work with my mind than to toil away with my hands. I joined the Army received my GI bill and I believe I am a better person for the experience. It opened my eyes to a world I may have never known, otherwise.

The point is yes...the draft and the current system places a heavier burden on lower socio-economic strata but in return they are given an opportunity to lift themselves out of their situation, that is if they don't........get killed in the process. Just my 2 centos.

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No doubt about that. I would suggest that current system places a greater burden on lower socio-economic strata as the draft catches a higher percentage of the middle class then an all volunteer military does.

That is the nice feature of compulsory military service (or national service as El Viejo mentioned) it requires everyone to serve.

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I have taught in secondary Ed, and attended a recruiting session by the Army two years ago and this is what I learned about an all-volunteer army:

All 17 year old males must be contacted by a recruiter. Only 30% meet current day requirements to be able to serve (ANY chronic illness such as asthma is a deal-breaker.

The two recruiters came from different walks of life. One was a mechanic, and chose to go into the army for the professional opportunity. The other grew up on the mean streets of St Louis and found his niche (and escape from poverty) on assault squads in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Remember that a large chunk of our war effort is fought by National Guard units, and they usually aren't from the wrong side of the tracks.

And like Costa Rica, the military is a good way to escape the boredom and nannyism of the US

I take note of everything said above.

and do not disagree.

But, I would argue that even for those that are unfit for armed combat, there should be a mandatory national service for every swinging dick from sea to shining sea,


let them sweep streets, pickup trash, whatever.

and a couple of months of boot camp to start.

and for those that can't seem to do that?

drop them from 15,000 feet over afganistan and western pakistan...places like that

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