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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:24 pm 
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A friend from work went to bed last night and never woke up! He was only 42 years old he had a hart attack in his sleep. He left behind a Wife and 2 sons 8 and 10 years old. He was in good shape and good health

You never know when your time is up you have enjoy every day of it like it was your last because it just mite be.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:39 pm 
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Sorry to hear about your amigo Gino.Your right about trying to enjoy life because we never really know what lies ahead.I try most of the time to keep an attitude of gratitude but sometimes life deals us some tough cards.Again sorry.Most of the time it comes down to stress.Americans are notorious for working too much and not taking vacations etc.etc.etc. Who really needs a 4000 sq.ft. home for 2 people?


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CTG,
Sorry about your loss. I have to agree, the last 2 years at work here has been bad to. :( :( :( We have lost 7 guys most of who were 10 yrs or more from retirement. So as someone has said ENJOY LIFE to the fullest. :D

So I plan too by being with as many Chicas and Thai gals as I can :D :D :D and see the world.

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Sorry for your loss,

I am 44 and specifically made a decsion four years ago after 20 grurling years of management consulting work to take some time and see the world. Now I am working 30 hrs a week from home in Escazu and relaxing as much as possible. I highly rcommend making a list and starting to do the things you dream of sooner rather than later.


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Sorry about your freind Chitown but could not agree more. That is exactly why I travel 8 or 10 times a year out of the US even though it stretches my travel budget and may delay retirement a little. You just never know. Best to enjoy your life while you can in good health.rbc100

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My condolences not only to you, but to the family, and especially the Ch*ldren who will now be without their father. It is heartbreaking.

About 15 years ago I had a near death experience (bleeding in the brain), for no apparent reason. I can tell you during those very important hours that I knew I was in big trouble, I never once thought about work, money, or the daily B.S. of life.

Be kind to yourself and others, live your life to the fullest today, because tomorrow is just a dream.

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That's scary, I know of 4 people in their 40's that dropped in the last couple years. I was told if you have a heart attack in your forties you probably won't live but if you're over 55 or so you might survive, is this true and if so, why? :?


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That's interesting, Paco. I know a 60 year old man who just had a heart attack and survived...........Might be somehting to it. :?

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Sorry for your loss. I hate reading these kind of things, as they hit too close to home. Enjoy today......
MG :(

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:36 pm 
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quote="PacoLoco"]That's scary, I know of 4 people in their 40's that dropped in the last couple years. I was told if you have a heart attack in your forties you probably won't live but if you're over 55 or so you might survive, is this true and if so, why? :?
[/quote]Very sad indeed Chi, my condolences.

Paco, I do not have any verified numbers to post, but I assure you that "heart attack" victims in their 40's, on the whole do not die more frequently than older victims.

24 years of interactions in the homes of "Heart-Attack" victims is what I am drawing from here. Allow me to elaborate on this.

The term heart attack in and of itself is very, very vague. The actual term that is applicable here is Myocardial Infarction.. Which interpreted literally means death of Heart Muscle.

Many people experience forms of chest pains. Often times, these pains will be labled as a "heart attack" or more often in varying forms like "small heart attack, or Major heart attack".
In actuallity, Angina is the proper term to be used.Literally interpreted as Pain that is attributable to cardiac in nature. Again, angina is not a heart attack, unless death of the heart muscle occurs.

These "angina episodes are usually manifested by 1 of 3 instigators.
1)A blockage of the Coronary arteries(by a clot or by plaque that has disloged and blocked an already narrowed cardiac vessel.

These instances are what often cause the Sudden Major Heart Attack, that is the cardiac muscle that is "downstream of the blocked vessel" and is beginning to die due to lack of oxygen to the tissue,, these tissues begin to die(myocardial infartion), this is very painful. Left untreated, Depending on the amount of heart tissues that are being blocked from blood supply,,will result in many complications.(from rapid death to lingering and varying states of debilitation.

2)Arrhythmias: This is the change of your normal heart beat electrically,,
again, many factors can cause this sudden change in heart rhythm, the bottom line is that due to this electrical malfunction, your heart is not able to adequately oxyginate itself(due to disrupted blood flow by the erratic beats). These episodes can be as simple as a few missed beats(PVC's), all the way to the catastrophic situation known as ventricular fibrallation. This condition is always fatal unless the heart is Defibrallated, which is the delivery of the shock that most people can relate to seeing on medical shows. Keep in mind that the previously mentioned cause 1(blockages,) also will lead to these arrhythmias, and the need for defibrallation.

3) Spasms of the coronary vessels. These are more esoteric and difficult to diagnose. People experiencing sudden cardiac pain and all the associated symptons often times go undiagnosed, due to the fact that by the time diagnostic equipment is applied, the situation has resolved. These spasms are usually found to be present after patients have been fitted with a home monitoring device to catch these events when they happen..

I will conclude this long attempt to answer the topic, Do people tend to die at higher numbers when they have a heart attack in their 40's as opposed to those who have heart attacks when they are older ???
No they do not,
However, unfortunately the situation of denial and unfamiliarity with what is happening with their 40 something year old bodies often will cause a delay in seeking the needed treatment in a timely matter, with ensuing tragic consequences. These worst case scenerio cases are very shocking and stand out to us all. The sad truth is that 100s of thousands of americans die each year from cardiac disease, you can look it up, truly staggering numbers,, but in the end, you will find that the older folks actually have a much higher mortality from TRUE HEART ATTACKS.

If you feel the classic symptoms of heart attack,(just one or a combo)

Sudden severe chest pain(sharp, dull ,heavy,and all points in between)
radiated pain to jaw,arms(most commonly the left), back pain
Nausea
profuse sudden sweating
Difficulty Breathing
lightheaded

Seek immediate aide, Time is Heart Muscle!!
there are many wonderful medicines that can save your life,,Dont be a sailor,, On the good ship De Nile!!!

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:57 pm 
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1 other important thing I overlooked,

Unless advised by your doctor not to,, An aspirin a Day is HUGE in preventing and minimizing the effects of a "Heart Attack",,

Let me reiterate... HUGE. ,,VITAL!!!

You will be hard pressed to find a doctor who doesnt advocate this.

Check with your MD first though.


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Good info BB. It is alarming how many guys are dying at younger ages from heart attacks. From my experiences with family and friends who have had these problems...in most cases I believe there is cause and effect...and therefore things we can do to live longer.

#1...STRESS. My stepfather and father figure had a few angioplasties and stents over a 15 year period which forced early retirement from a good executive VP level career in a blue chip company. Never smoked, hardly ever drank and was the same weight at retirement as he was during college and always a great athlete and working out. BUT...he was the type who internalized his stress and emotions...and was a very "controlled" man when it came to these things. Obviously not a mongerer :shock: . I believe his many health problems were caused by the stress and buried emotions. A few "phucks" and "god damns" expressed might have added a few years to his all too short life.

#2...OVERWEIGHT. Most of us carry much more weight than is normal or than we have to. Our fast food diets, eating while stressed and in a hurry, and our lack of consistant and non-maniachal exercise is what builds up the clogged arteries and makes many of us a walking heart attack waiting to happen. Many of our grandparents or great gps worked on the farm or in manual labor on a daily basis while eating WHOLE foods and milks...heavy creams...lots of meat. None of my family going back that far died of heart problems. That all started in my parents generation and the enlightened "industrial age".

CRT can save your life :wink: . When I moved to CR, I lost 15 lbs without thinking about it just with the different diet and more walking around each day. Plus, increased sex activity with younger women give all systems a more thorough cleansing on a consistant basis. Let alone my stress levels being much lower than they were living in gringalandia...with focus on the almighty dollar.

Lets take a lesson...and live better/longer.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 1:19 pm 
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You hit it DIRECTLY on the Head..

Live to work?
Work to Live?

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My condolences, Its amazing how this site alwasy has some expert on any topic we come across . Its more then mongering advice here has anyone ever noticed? Its reading things like this that confirm to me that I am doing the right things in my life .. "living for me"

Giving back to people is as important as recieving . I do voulenteer work once a week and truly help people through my experiences and as long as I do that i feel I have the right to be happy the rest of the week ...its sounds funny but it works for me . now bring on the sluts!!! :lol:

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