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D2864 wrote:



Hmm, it "...can't be all that bad?" Truth is, it can be absolutely nightmarish, horrific, and of epic proportions. Rich fat cats thinking with their "little head" is exactly what attracts the worst of the "bitch-gringa" goupies. As far as genuine, non-fake sex is concerned, I can't imagine the frustrations endured. Even if viewed strictly as a business/fantasy transaction, it must be mighty cold at the top.

I think the reason the Donald Trumps of the world continue to make the near-fatal error of marrying young, ambitious, white gringas time after time, is ego and lack of imagination; in other words, stupidity. They never learn their lesson. Besides, bottom lines turn these guys on more, anyway. I like "bottom lines" too...

Brazilera ones.

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"Don't never trust a woman, till she's dead and deep....One day she'll say she loves you, next day she'll throw you on the street."

"...and if men didn't have this unquenchable desire to have sex with women, then they wouldn't have anything to do with women at all. I certainly wouldn't..."

Hear hear!

Gentleman , It was almost a year ago today I first went to costa rica and walked in the delrey and my mouth dropped . The guys on the newbie board told me when I came back Im phucked I will never be the same again .

They are right !! My desire to date american girls is almost non-existing .
For me in the New York area the woman are very cold and being a bitch and rude is accepted here .For every half decent girl of marrying age are 500 men hitting on her per month .Im just not that competitive man

I take the path of least resistence ,I think it was JAZZ Musician who tuned me onto a good dating site for latinas and its been easy pickens since .Thsi year Ive been to 4 countries mongering had 2 different 23 yr olds meet me at the airport 1 in RIO 1 in Dominica rep and they stayed with me !! could that ever happen in america ? I meet a girl online and we hit it off and she meets me at airport and stays in Hotel with me and bangs my brains out in the first night ?? romance ,laughter, fun .....jeeeeezz id say highly unlikely man at 41 .

I dont see it coming to an end for a while ,Im truly phucked guys ...a few months ago I sat in 8 minute dating and was interview (baggage check) by 8 american girls who I would say 1 was a 6 the rest where as ugly as they where nasty and to think men actually like them and court them?? if they only knew what lies south of the border .

What an adventure Ive had .I took a kayak in the ocean to an island with my Dominican baby and kissed her under the sun .I climbed the Statue of Cristo in Rio and saw the awe inspiring beauty of Brazil .I stood within site of a Volcano in Costa rica while it erupted . I zip lined over lake Arenal at 600 feet at 45 MPH .I sat in a Terma in brazil alone with 20 beautifull woman who just couldnt get enough of me ! Had sex with dozens of woman under the age of 25 .Gave money to poor street K*ds all over the place .Made friends I still have today! and Ate some of the best food Ive ever had .

How could I go back after that ? I still want to see the beauty of Medellin and paisa's the old city of Cartegena ,Lima Peru and machu pichu , The deep country of Brazil ...the list goes on ....

A wise man once said , once a Cucumber becomes a pickle it can never be a cucumber again .

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That`s a good testimony. You can also go to northern or southern eastern Europe and get the same attention from young women, plus plenty of great food, historical sites, and even incredible nature and beaches in some places like Bulgaria and Croatia. This is where the middle aged Germans and Brits go. It`s a convenient travel distance. It isn`t primarily a "gringa" or "latina" matter but an economic one. A guy making 50 to 100 K a year is filthy rich where the average person makes 5 K or so a year. Middle aged American multi-millionaires can enjoy simliar treatment from attractive young women here.

Jersey Gringo said:



The answer in a word JG is...no. I believe it's more than money, economics, lifestyle, even upbringing. My hunch is it's genetic. Girls are more sexual here, less hung up, and more in touch with the importance of healthy sex, with or without a boyfriend. So it translates to better and more sex with p4p'ers, and non's alike.

My girl here played me a video last night of a concert which featured many Brazilian pop stars in front of at least 10,000 youth. Every band played the same style in this particular concert, known here as "funky." It's a different meaning of the word from what we're used to. The point is, they all used this same beat which lends itself to suggestive dancing of the most obvious sort, and I was struck with what I saw in the crowd as well as on stage. The level of sexual expression emanating from the girls was like nothing I've seen in American rock concerts. This led to a discussion about Carnival here, which my girl participates in. She, as well as tons of girls on the street, paint their bodies, but they're nude - and my girl loves it. I asked if there was inhibition at first, and she said no. Just get painted in strategic areas and run out onto the street nude. And there is sex in public all over the place.

This is a cultural phenomenon, and while other Latin countries perhaps share some of the gene responsible, it's most pronounced in Brazil. It's most absent in the States. People blame the Puritanical ethic for the stogy attitudes of gringas but it goes deeper, I believe, to the genetic level.

I'm glad the website has yielded some results for you. I'm late for a rendezvous with a 20. y.o. I'd lost track of, and finally found.

Talk about genes....

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"Don't never trust a woman, till she's dead and deep....One day she'll say she loves you, next day she'll throw you on the street."

"...and if men didn't have this unquenchable desire to have sex with women, then they wouldn't have anything to do with women at all. I certainly wouldn't..."

Donald Trump only married 1 gringa and her name was Marla Maples . His first wife Ivanka and his present wife are not gringas.

...Unless you define "gringa" as some of us do, as any woman born or residing for more than, say, 2 minutes, above Key West and west of Newfoundland (Latinas and Eastern Europeans definitely included). Some might even say "west of the Adriatic".
Yumvee, natch

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"A man accustomed to hear only the echo of his own sentiments, soon bars all the common avenues of delight, and has no part in the general gratification of mankind"--Dr. Johnson
"Amen, brother"-ED

I think I'm the only one who has posted their own personal definition of "gringa." It can certainly be widely defined.

dapanz1

The names "gringo" and "gringa" actually mean foreigner. But of course we're using it as if speaking from the tica's or nica's or colombiana's or brasilera's point of view. We're using the name as though we live outside the States. Some here do. But I suppose strictly speaking, if we're born in the States, or even U.S. citizens, we can't call other U.S. citizens "foreigners."

What the term means to me is any woman born here or who has spent any time here. Often Latinas who migrate to the U.S. can still have that fire (which I believe is inbred), at least for a while. But it fades with time as they acquire the materialist lifestyle and realize the value of their sexual charms is wildly inflated. I saw it happen, up close and personal.

I met two colombiana sisters in 1999. One was 20 and the other 25. Both were beautiful and the kind that drive men wild. Once that point was driven home with scores of suitors vying for their attention, they changed and it was a pity. Today they're 9 years older and still beautiful, married, and the younger one had a baby recently. They don't seem as happy as when they first got here - even with all the attention and marriages.

Luckily we have Cali and other destinations where we're the "valued" ones, and where you will find girls who will never move to the States and become "gringas"....

...or whatever you want to call them....

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"Don't never trust a woman, till she's dead and deep....One day she'll say she loves you, next day she'll throw you on the street."

"...and if men didn't have this unquenchable desire to have sex with women, then they wouldn't have anything to do with women at all. I certainly wouldn't..."

Hey Jazz it sounds like your livin the life man !!attendinga baily funky I presume ? I was invited once . wouldnt dare go ...

Gringas- if I tell a gringa I met a girl and had sex with her after meeting her for 1 day in brazil they would barf on me .

Here sex is dirty its a bad thing ,its precious and only given to men who deserve it and have earned or sacrificed .(for the most part) some exceptions . Yes the culture is different the dance the clothes sex is ok to be beautifull .If an american girl shook her ass like that ina club and wore latina style clothes they would call her a whore .Ive seen it myself in select clubs . Even some guys are prudy like this . thank god for LA/CA and CRT !!

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I don't drink milk often ..but when I do it's dos tetas ..stay Horney my friends

Are you kidding me? Go to some of the college towns or Bourbon St. They are grinding and all over one another on the dance floor. Problem is that this action tends to leave guys much older than them out, thus the venture south for the economically disadvantaged babes who are elated to have anyone pay their way, buy them an outfit and slip them some cash. Hey I do it, but guess I don`t need the fantasies some embrace. And these American college chicks do wear some rather skant outfits depending on the weather....

Someone mentioned something about sex in public. Well to be honest, I`m kinda glad there is a taboo against that here.With many partners that would be a rather disgusting sight....

Also I`m curious, regarding the genetically determined high libidos in Brazil, any theories as to source? Keep in mind there has been a considerable mixing in of Africano blood there over the centuries. More than many other parts of Latin America due to slavery and likely sheer proximity to the African continent. If that`s it then these arguments have been made before. Though I tend to lean more toward environmental influences, and so does the poster making this argument as he asserts that these women change the moment they move to America. Personally I`d just see these women as realizing they don`t have to do much older guys to prosper and choose not to unless the price is high enough by our standards. And the whole world seems to love sex as it`s had little trouble staying populated. It`s true that Victorianism or issues related patriarchy have and still hinder the idea of pleasure for women some places but this is well on the wane in the Western World. I`m not sure if it ever was much of an issue in Asia.

Jersey - Yeah, I've had it worse. The way I look at it is I paid my dues in the States putting up with gringas. And I was always quite lucky with my choices in women. But still, I'm sorry I didn't discover the secrets of the south sooner, and it's in this spirit I write here. I clung to the misguided belief that American women were the standard by which other women in the world were judged. I suppose Hollywood is part of the hype, since everybody watches American movies. The funny thing is girls here can't understand. They see the glamour of Miami and New York and L.A. and assume the women there are tops. They're frankly surprised (if quietly elated) to hear the horror stories about their sisters to the north.

Express - I never saw age as an issue, unless one pursues the shallowest of gringa ditz-heads. The maturity level of girls in their 20's and 30's here is striking, perhaps because they haven't had everything handed to them. As far as Latinas going for older guys because they have money, that's much more worrisome in the States. Gold-digging here is kindergarten compared to what one might encounter with gringas. And when it comes to whether the black thing plays a part in Latina moves, I'll buy it. Finally, Latinas do change when their big toe hits Marathon Key because money and image and hype corrupts, despite any predisposition to the contrary. Why be happy with something genuine or even something reasonable, when you can move into a mansion if you play your cards right. They may not all move into mansions, but they all have mansions in their heads.

This topic has been discussed many times for any interested readers, including in the "Research" thread when I was here for 5 months. There were some excellent contributions, and as usual, everyone has their point of view. For me the bottom line is this; you can theorize all you want - about how gringas are not to blame, how they are just as passionate, and sexy, and nurturing, and supportive, and cognizant of the innate differences between men and women as Latinas are - but you're right back where you started from if hope is your primary strategy in the States. That is, you're with gringas. That for me is unacceptable, and fortunately, I have done something about it. It doesn't happen by dreaming alone, but I believe anyone can elongate their time in Central and South America, if not move outright, with vision and a determination to change their life. If it's not a priority, so be it. I have plenty of friends bumping into walls, they're so numbed by their domestic situations. And I'm certain there are other ways of handling the condition -with drugs, gambling, overeating, and other forms of sublimation. My solution has been to accomplish 12 months of work in 7 months, so I can have 5 months to continue my research here in Brazil.

But that's just me. Everybody needs to find their way...

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"Don't never trust a woman, till she's dead and deep....One day she'll say she loves you, next day she'll throw you on the street."

"...and if men didn't have this unquenchable desire to have sex with women, then they wouldn't have anything to do with women at all. I certainly wouldn't..."

Thanks for sharing Jazz Musician. The above statement I really agree with, and it was in essence my central point all along. It costs a lot more money to play "sugar daddy" in the states, so with the bottom line in mind, it`s "worrisome." No one making 50 to 100 K a year or so should be surpised when they go to Latin America and get treated like a multi-millionaire. In their world you are... If you had a cool 10 mil in the bank you could work up a little harem of "gringas," feeding a little here, little there, and enjoy a simliar experience here. But they cost a lot more in the richest nation in the world. I can`t really see what you are so angry about as none of this is that complicated. Go to a different economy and drasically improve your situation. Fantastic! Though some of these guys taking 6 or so trips a year, inflating their per piece of ass cost with airfare and hotel bills, could in some U.S. locales, get a lot of mileage out of that same cash at home if they played it right. But for pure P4P it`s generally better places where it`s officially legal or the laws simply ignored.

Thanks for sharing Jazz Musician. The above statement I really agree with, and it was in essence my central point all along. It costs a lot more money to play "sugar daddy" in the states, so with the bottom line in mind, it`s "worrisome." No one making 50 to 100 K a year or so should be surpised when they go to Latin America and get treated like a very wealthy man. In their world you are... If you had a cool 10 mil in the bank you could work up a little harem of "gringas," feeding a little here, little there, and enjoy a simliar experience here. But they cost a lot more in the richest nation in the world. I can`t really see what you are so angry about as none of this is that complicated. Go to a different economy and drasically improve your situation. Fantastic! Though some of these guys taking 6 or so trips a year, inflating their per piece of ass cost with airfare and hotel bills, could in some U.S. locales, get a lot of mileage out of that same cash at home if they played it right. But for pure P4P it`s generally better places where it`s officially legal or the laws simply ignored.

Express says:



This is where we disagree. I don't have a couple of million laying around to experiment with your theory and attempt to replicate the Central or South American experience in the U.S. But if I did, I'm certain it wouldn't be the same. When I see fat cats with greedy gringas, I chuckle to myself for being so much "poorer", yet happier. First, they're gringas, with all the implications that carries with it. Their grandparents grew up in the '50's, when Ozzie and Harriet couldn't appear in bed together, unless Ozzie had one foot on the floor. Then their parents grew up in a tumultuous era ('70s), which basically rejected the views of the post-war generation, including those regarding women's "weak" position in society. Ironically slogans like "Make love, not war" and "Free love" emerged and attempted to remedy the repressed conditions of the previous generation.

So today's 20 or 30-something women grew up with conflicting views of what is acceptable sexual behavior for women. In addition, they had whatever there heart desired in the form of material excess. Those differences alone would be enough to draw a distinction between gringas and Latinas. Then factor in what I believe is a genetic propensity for physicality and the carrying out of traditional women's roles, and it's no wonder men who come south - young men or older - draw the conclusion Latinas are inherently superior. They're better able to give men what they want, while at the same time genuinely enjoy the attention their local men seem incapable of providing. The benefits are obvious in the "girlfriend" domain, and in the world of p4p, this translates to better, hotter sex, more sex with beautiful women without attitudes, and of course, realistically-priced sex...and not just for gringos. The termas are swamped with young brasileros here.

Overall, gringas are more "hung-up." Of course there are exceptions. I had a good 20-year run with a blue-eyed, natural blond. And it's not hard for me to find action in Miami, non, or p4p. But it's not the same and no matter the money or status, can never be. Gringas are of a different make-up, physically, mentally, and experientially. And unfortunately, even when Latinas show up in the States as new residents, the days are numbered before their hot-blooded ways are overrun by the American dream and the promise of a "quick fix" if they find the "right guy."

Finally, just on a personal level, I find Latinas to be pleasant people, young, old, black. white, men and women. Maybe the affinity I feel is tied to my Italian roots - I can only speculate. I found some of the same civility, warmth, and sexiness in women when I traveled Italy. Also absent is the red-neck factor, homophobia, and zealotry one observes in the States.

My only regret is I didn't know this when I was younger, and in this spirit I write here - knowing there are younger whipper-snappers on this board who could benefit.

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"Don't never trust a woman, till she's dead and deep....One day she'll say she loves you, next day she'll throw you on the street."

"...and if men didn't have this unquenchable desire to have sex with women, then they wouldn't have anything to do with women at all. I certainly wouldn't..."