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"What are better reasons for looking south? Reasons such as marginal female libidos and sexual "game-playing," or losing half or more of what you worked for all your life in a divorce court with an out-of-control gringa? Think Paul McCartny's ex. "

Paul actually I believe only lost about 10% of his net since they were only conjoined 4 yrs. and I'm sure the most part of it is he hired the actual very best Attys. available in UK and had the majority public support on his side.

But still 10% of a very large amount of money is still a very large amount of $$$ but Heather still disatisifed and hated thruout much of the UK because of this.

Do I say marry a gold diggen wench?? Hell no!!!!!!!!!! But my point is that the man doesn't always get screwed. Way to go Paul, not so bad after all!!!!!!!!!!


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"and Jewish girls are the worst of all (talk about premadonnas). "

Totally phucking exactly!!!!!!!! I'm not anti-semite and I don't lust after them but unfortunately they are extremely selective not just money and status wise but of their faith. And sorry I'm not converting or going to medical or law school to try to get a J Princesa. And even if I converted my Christian ass they still mostly want the status (Dr./Lawyer/Captain of failed Hedge fund/industry etc). That is why so many of them never get married and turn into old maids.

Is why when I'm not in pre-dominant Catholic/Christian Latin Am. I head to more the same in Miami. At least I can chat up many Latinas there. J girls not even giving any time of day to my white trash ass which fine for me.


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Wow, what a buzz kill. Seriously one of the more saddest things I've read in a while. Seems like something Rolltide would say :shock:


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Not really intended to be sad. Just a commentary on gringas and their determination to make men "try out" for their attention. Honestly, just being around them I feel like I am trying to make the varsity football squad, or convince some HR guy why I would be a good addition to his company. I have never met a girl of even average quality here in the states that didn't insist on playing this elementary school game.

Don't worry about me, there are plenty of Russian, Costa Rican, Ukrainian, and other non-westernized women who are frank and mature enough to keep me happy.

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Too often when speaking of the P4P game we give advice and pretty much the YMMV variable is always assumed. But I also think it pertains in the non-P4P game as well. Its hard for me to fully ascertain your situation but I must admit reading you were a virgin until you were 32 threw me off a bit :shock:

I agree the non P4P booty calls, hook ups etc.. seem further and further out of reach, but its definately there. If it's not for you or you don't get those oppurtunities with gringas in the U.S. then don't worry about it. Do what you do and have a good time. Although I'm partial to gringas it never bothers me when I hear gringa bashing. I'm just glad I don't share that opinion (yet).

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:02 pm 
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Tman has a point and I have seen him in action here in the States.

You have to have fun with the women. We were in a Hooters in the States and playing with the cute waitress. She puts her name on a napkin and I we discussed putting his name on there. Then put a heart and we kept going with it. At the end it was an arrow through the heart and then a number on each side. Then tear it apart and each has the others number. It was all fun and this was a cute 19-20 year old with pure Cuban heritage. I don't know what he did with that number but you might be surprised what is possible if you believe.

It something to the affect of what you believe you can achieve you will. This is the confidence that women are looking for.

Hey, I am on this board too because I feel the same about the Latinas. Still being in the States is good practice. That's because women are women everywhere. They are more available in the foreign land but at some point if you want to have a relationship you will need to "manage them".

Seriously if you give a bartender $1,000 to prove they can't get you laid then "the game" is already lost.

Or if someone decides they can't get laid by gringas cause they go on a personals site where everyone judges everyone by pictures and age then you have also lost the game.

The worse thing you can do in the States is to take a Gringa girl who needs he help like a Latina. That is go into the same mode. What you end up with is the "trailer trash" that Jazz Musician mentions in other posts. I know this and have to remind myself as it recently happened to me after coming back from Panama. Lured by a hot gringa that needed help. It's bad because I'm here in the States to make money. All these gringas do is surround you with poverty mode, bad conversation and drama.

I had drinks last night with a good friend that is a sweedish girl late 30's with one K*D. I sometimes go out with her and her friends who are all 7-8s. They let me in as one of the girls and it is amazing what I get to see. Such as guys coming up to them saying first thing "girl I want to eat your ass". They go for it sometimes not b/c they want to but b/c it is all they get.

Listen I am far from saying to save the Gringa. All I'm saying that when in the States it's good to keep up the practice. In doing so I would rather pick one that has a good job and a K*D and has her stuff together. Make money in the meantime and get a little something on the side. All this will pay off when you travel if you are interested in hot latina for the night or maybe more.


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Call it "gringa-bashing" if that's how you see it. I see women, dating, sex and marriage in this country as different from other countries. That's life in the big ten. It's the cards we're dealt. Different countries have strong points. Italy is great for food. The Netherlands suck. Why? Obviously Italians love what they're doing in the kitchen more than chefs in Amsterdam. Or perhaps it's in the history, traditions, culture, and even genes. Well, I feel the same way about latinas - especially brasileras - in the bedroom. If money could buy good food in Amsterdam, then fine. But it can't. Same for consistently hot, passionate sex, without the attendant hardships in the States. Money can't buy it.

The other day I met a girl in Rio - no money, no talk of the future, not even "Where do (I) live?" We've met twice at two different hotels and I'm the one wondering why she doesn't call - not that I have so much free time here. But the point is this is a happening woman in her 20's who wanted one thing. Sex, and a bit of TLC. I wrote about her briefly in this section. Go where they're good at it. Save the anguish. P4p, non's, it's all good here...

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My trips down south have liberated me from gringas. They no longer have the advantage, im in the drivers seat, the hunter has become the hunted.I ran into a girl that I used to date, but never banged, 2 days ago at starbucks. She ask me what my hobbies are. I told her I really like going to hooters for the UFC events, havent missed one in years. I invited her to watch one with me last night, she passed. About an hour into the event she called me and told me she hadnt been laid in a while and that if I came over I would be the lucky one. 3 years ago I would have dropped what I was doing and hauled ass over to her house. Last night I told her I would be over after the fight, go to go, theres a fight on now. I could tell she was pissed but didnt even care, she said she might not be in the mood at 11 so I better come now, I said oh well, I will talk to you at 11. well I called at 11 and she said get the hell over here.I banged it several times, and it was good. ADVANTAGE ME!


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Just wanted to add that my first trip to CR woke me up a little. It re-lite the fire in my life. Not just the girls ,but the whole experience. I realize how fortunate we are here in the US.I dont take small things for granted. I made adjustment to my life. Gave up alcohol, work out reguler, eat more healthy. Ive lost 30 pounds without really even trying.

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"and Jewish girls are the worst of all (talk about premadonnas). "

Totally phucking exactly!!!!!!!! I'm not anti-semite and I don't lust after them but unfortunately they are extremely selective not just money and status wise but of their faith. And sorry I'm not converting or going to medical or law school to try to get a J Princesa. And even if I converted my Christian ass they still mostly want the status (Dr./Lawyer/Captain of failed Hedge fund/industry etc). That is why so many of them never get married and turn into old maids.

Is why when I'm not in pre-dominant Catholic/Christian Latin Am. I head to more the same in Miami. At least I can chat up many Latinas there. J girls not even giving any time of day to my white trash ass which fine for me.


Here is someone who has NO understanding of women- Jewish women are far more like Latinas in terms of passion and emotional sensibility than many other ethnic groups. Maybe they just give you no play for reasons of your own personality or looks? Your post is full of petty stereotypes and prejudice. Look in the mirror pal. And you are not antisemetic? The next thing you will say is, well, some of my best freinds are..... :?

In terms of this overall post- TMAN hit the nail on the head. How we experience women is more about us then about them. Easier to blame women for being castrating Bs than take a look at our part in things. He is also 100 percent dead on about the perils of confusing dating with P4P- it is what leads to so much heard ache we have read about over the years on this board...

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..it is what leads to so much heard ache we have read about over the years on this board...


I assume you meant "heart ache"? Or was it "hard ache"? The latter would be more appropriate.

I originally mentioned the jewish girl thing and while the quote is out of context, I stick with Jewish princesses as being the worst lays on the planet, bar none. That's my opinion and there's nothinig anti-semetic about it. I'm not crazy about Asian women either, but some guys are crazy about them. It's purely about the gringa thing, magnified by the manner in which many jewish girls are raised. If you're jewish, perhaps you're used to the princess style - the daughter who often gets spoiled big-time and will often only consider a nice jewish boy at the alter. Some consider religion and riches to be the root causes of all evil, no matter the race. I don't go that far, but I have had enough experience in my life to know what I like and don't like - and I adore Latinas. That's me, and I think everybody has an asshole.

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..it is what leads to so much heard ache we have read about over the years on this board...


I assume you meant "heart ache"? Or was it "hard ache"? The latter would be more appropriate.

I originally mentioned the jewish girl thing and while the quote is out of context, I stick with Jewish princesses as being the worst lays on the planet, bar none. That's my opinion and there's nothinig anti-semetic about it. I'm not crazy about Asian women either, but some guys are crazy about them. It's purely about the gringa thing, magnified by the manner in which many jewish girls are raised. If you're jewish, perhaps you're used to the princess style - the daughter who often gets spoiled big-time and will often only consider a nice jewish boy at the alter. Some consider religion and riches to be the root causes of all evil, no matter the race. I don't go that far, but I have had enough experience in my life to know what I like and don't like - and I adore Latinas. That's me, and I think everybody has an asshole.

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And I love latinos too- as I have for twenty plus years of traveling and working in Latin America. Also, there are entitled princesses of ALL religion or race - you think Jewish girls have that market cornered and that Latinas are immune? I think you know better... The diversity within the Jewish comminity is almost as great as it is with Latino communities...Perhaps not in your circles..

Some entitled bitchy Latinas, for instance, need to have a man break down their walls and be an assertive, empowered man..Once you bust through, the sex can out off the charts.....but, from reading your posts, you know that too..you think the same might not be true for most princessy girls?

Sorry you have had poor experiences with Jewish women, and while I respect most of your opinions, I can guarentee you are dead wrong on this, and it has NOTHING to do with accepting bitchy, princess attitudes.....That was an insulting and foolish comment-seems very out of charicter for you...

You clearly have met the wrong Jewish women- too bad for you, but being that your traveling to Rio a great deal, im sure I won't sheed too many tears.. :wink: To each his or her own- and yes, we are all entitled to our opinions, and yes, everyboy has plenty of them..and that is just me!

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I'm happy you rock with jewish girls. I'm happy when any guy rocks with any gringa. Chalk one up for the under-appreciated and lets hear more success stories. I've had some great amigos over the years who happened to be jewish and they adored girls I wouldn't consider. That's all I meant. They didn't mind the attitude, orientation, whatever, and I suspect they saw something in those girls I didn't. And I saw "princess" and they didn't.

For me the "gringa" phenom is about attitude more than anything else. That attitude is shaped within a cultural environment and against a sociological backdrop that includes lots of money (often), lots of judges siding with women in divorce and custody cases, the women's movement started in the late 60's, and lots of choices which translates to "selection" and games in the sexual arena. I believe genes play a roll as well. Why not? They play a roll in just about every other behavioral aspect. There still may not be equal pay for equal work, but other advantages women have in the States are notable. And even if it wasn't the case, the greed, poor performance, average passion, inability to relax, fear of getting "phucked over" - and the list goes on - combine to make the gringa experience too expensive for the value. It's a mistake to think you can duplicate the native latina experience (as differentiated from the transplant) in the States - non or p4p. It can't be done. If it could, this board would not exist....

There are exceptions and I've always said this. I had a happy 18 years with a blue-eyed, natural blond, and we're still friends. But I've moved on and I would urge any whipper-snappers reading to withhold your opinions on gringas until you've savored the latin experience - especially brasilera.

Learn their language and figure out how to work from here - or invest, or whatever you can conjure. Don't spend your life measuring your self-worth through gringa eyes. They're too insecure with themselves, to image conscious, and too materialistic. I learned the hard way. Hopefully this board can save some grief for others.

If you don't believe me, I tried...

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I agree about genetic factors as a substantial part of the latina "difference". I'm convinced that the shapely, wide-assed (but not fat) women that can be found so readily in Brasil (and also found in provincial coastal and jungle areas in Peru also), have an intrinsically much deeper well of female passion and horniness then their less-shapely counterparts of any heritage or skin color - that the hormones that give them these womanly attributes infuse them with a greater need and desire to phuck, and phuck passionately. My experience is not that much different pro or non - these round-bottom lovelies will +attack+ you with forceful DFK, hop on you, phuck you hard, and do their instinctual best draw your seed into them and turn you to pure jelly when they are done with you. At least they have this going for them for awhile until it eventually over time gets masked by cultural and social factors and accumulated cultural baggage, often obtained when they move away from their native lands. Their passions can also get tempered by their loss of desireability as they age and sag, or by accumulated exhaustion from hard lives raising the K*ds, career pressures, or any number of other possible factors. Incidentally, it is not an accident that in LAm this category of women probably 95% of the time has at least 1 N*no before the age of 30, and usually are moms well before age 25, whether they ever married or found "true love" or not. Of course sociological factors play into that result.

I had a subscription to Mike in Brazil...watch what these round-asses do and how they do it and the pleasure they take in doing it - the best of these women simply do things that very very few gringas are capable of. I say very few rather than none because there may be exceptions; porn star Sunny Lane comes to mind. But OTOH watch the various flacas, usually gringas, and what they do in the pornos - what they do is just not at that level because they don't have it in them. Sadly I haven't made it to Brazil yet, but I've experienced same in Peru with that certain type there. I am quite sure also that big-assed African women also have a healthy natural sexuality, and that the upper status of men in those cultures who have access to the most and best are very satisfied indeed. But in the US the "African-American" personality (think Selena Williams) totally ruins it for me even if these women were potentially on my menu.

To sum, I think to account for what we see overall descibed in this thread, in my opinion we are talking a confluence of genetics, culture differences and relative value of the man in his location at the time. I think the gringo has an intrinsically much higher value to an average latin woman in her country that he has to any physically equivalent woman in his own country, because the women there think so poorly generally of their own men. And I think this "elevation of relative value" is a positive whether the gringo pays directly for the sex or not. Take this, plus the genetic and cultural factors, and the gringo (or europeo), especially the gringo over 35, has have a far, far better playing field to play in, in LAm, whether he goes there for P4P, dating relationships, wife-hunting, or any mix of these activities.

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