www.CostaRicaTicas.com

Still unclear about e-cigs and CR law--Brazil bans them entirely. For more on this wave of the future, see this:
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/20 ... n-industry

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The last time I was is San Jose, I was told that the CR government made a special provision after the original no smoking laws were passed to specifically INCLUDE e-cigarettes in the ban.

That said, it is still pretty easy to "stealth vape" in a bar. Since there is no odor, just hold the vapor in your lungs a bit longer. When you exhale there is little to no vapor coming out.

Don't be obvious and obnoxiously blow clouds and you should be fine.

Myself, I usually take the e-cig outside anyway as it gives me a chance to look around the bar

I saw a few guys using the e-cigs at the DR. Barmaids and security left them alone.

cheers,
Attila

I enjoy cigars, and find the smoking laws in Costa Rica restrictive and somewhat ridiculous and annoying - which is why I insist on a hotel room with a balcony - I live in FL and find Costa Rica much more restrictive.

A great example is the Cocal Hotel, in Jaco - its poolside, open air and you cannot smoke anywhere poolside, despite it being open air.

I've posted this before, and while I know on this subject I'm on the "wrong side of history" I think to smoke or not (and I have not had a cigarette in 25 years; only cigars) is a personal choice - and to have a business restricted as to what they can lawfully allow on their premises is wrong - patrons will make their own choices - if I for example, allow smoking in my establishment and another bans it - patrons will decide and vote with their feet - as will employees.

The anti smoking lobby - like Tobacco Free Florida also annoys me greatly - not because of their mission, but for their rigidity - they don't want any compromise, any meeting of the minds - I guess its like the position of some folks in Israel - how can you even negociate when the other side does not even recognize you, or acknowledge your right to even exist.

While I don't 100% "buy" the 2nd hand smoke hype, <after all a single 747 going from NY to LA emits more smoke and pollution that all the cigars smoked in the USA for a year source - Lew Wasserman, of JR Tobacco> I fail to see the danger in outdoor smoking, such as the Cocal.

Scuba.........

I understand most of your logic.....and I respect your right to smoke what you want.

But you don't address the right of others near you (outside or inside) to be free of odors that they may find distasteful.

I'd say the same thing about strong cologne or perfume or B.O. Who has the right to invade others with their preferred smells? Nobody ever complained about the ABSENCE of odors.

We can all avert our eyes from something that we find objectionable.....but we cannot turn-off our sense of smell. Why should I have to move away from an area because you want to exercise your right to do something that many (not a few) others find objectionable?

I think that your right to emanate odors ends at the beginning of my right to be free from your odors.

I suspect most would agree with you

But c'mon - outside??

Yea, Scuba......even outside.

I'd say the same thing to the bus companies in SJ.

A special smoker's section downwind? Big-ass fans? Industrial-size air cleaners? No accommodation whatsoever is given--all-or-nothing (in this case, nothing) rules the roost.
+ 1 on what he said about Florida--if <11% of the gross is food, smoking can be permitted...and everywhere outdoors. Reasonable accommodation. Bye-bye CR, hello Nicaragua.

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"Amen, brother"-ED

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[quote="Rac"]Scuba.........

I understand most of your logic.....and I respect your right to smoke what you want.

But you don't address the right of others near you (outside or inside) to be free of odors that they may find distasteful.

I'd say the same thing about strong cologne or perfume or B.O. Who has the right to invade others with their preferred smells? Nobody ever complained about the ABSENCE of odors.

We can all avert our eyes from something that we find objectionable.....but we cannot turn-off our sense of smell. Why should I have to move away from an area because you want to exercise your right to do something that many (not a few) others find objectionable?

I think that your right to emanate odors ends at the beginning of my right to be free from your odors.[/quote]


Hope you don't fart much..............

Anybody got an issue with my aromatic emanations? Here's a solution: http://www.best-price.com/search/landin ... s/s/yahoo/ << voila et voila--problem solved

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As you know Scuba I smoke cigars as well. As a matter of fact we have smoked Habanos together in Wise Ash's place.

Even so I fully support smoking bans, both in the States and internationally.

Why?

As the immortal Benito Juarez wrote, "Entre los individuos, como entre las Naciones, el respeto al derecho ajeno es la paz". To respect others' rights constitutes peace.

My "right" to smoke cigars doesn't mean I have the right to inflict the emanations on others, even if we are all outdoors.

Even with the current bans on smoking your right to smoke cigars remains unimpeded... as long as you do so in a designated place where no one needs to be unwillingly subjected to the smoke and smell. Like the Havana Humidor Room.

Some people believe imposing restrictions on business as to what they lawfully allow in their premises is wrong. History tells us discrimination based on race used to be legal in the US. Businesses had the right to refuse service to people based on their skin color. This was legal at the time, yet morally wrong.

If you leave it up to business to do the right thing, 9 times out of 10 they will do so only if it improves their bottom line.

mh

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I like you personally, and enjoy the times we have spent eating, talking smoking together - and hope to do more of all of it in the future.

We are going to just have to agree to disagree on this subject - but it does not mean we are not still friends - I'm not interested in opening up the whole debate when the smoking law was put into place - just don't have the desire for it - and I realize I'm on the wrong side of history, and also realize expecting any type of reasonable compromise from the other side (no, not you!) is expecting too much. But I'm done with the debate.

I have an old Cuban saying for YOU:

Solo una mano es nesita para paja

It only takes one had to jerk off - pardon my rough Spanish)

Oh yeah - Phuck Benito JuarASS and the donkey he rode in on

YOU GUY'S ARE SO FUNNY!

Glad you get my sense of humor, Bruce (but I knew you got me! )