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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:05 am 
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Honestly a somewhat embarrassing inquiry that isn't exactly easy on the ego... but I'm not sure where else I could even ask something like this.

As much as I don't want to admit it I have to be realistic, especially with myself, and as a disabled gentleman things are getting more difficult with each passing year. Physically I'm limited to say the least and my mobility really isn't what it used to be. I don't want to be bleak but I just want to experience what I can before I can't any longer if you know what I mean. So my question to any veteran mongers who may see this thread is; are there any hotels you have come across during your travels around the globe that are similar to Hotel Del Rey? I know HDR has a bad rep around these parts but ultimately convenience is key at this point in my life, even if I have to make some concessions in other areas. I stayed in HDR about 5 years ago (when I was in much better condition) and for all my complaints about the guest fee, the noise, the peddlers outside, etc. I did really appreciate the all inclusive nature it provided. I know there are literally forums upon forums and resources upon resources of p4p information out there but I don't think I have ever heard of other establishments in the same vein as HDL/Cocal in CR. I remember years back there was a mansion/hotel people used to talk about in Medellin, Colombia but I can't seem to find anything on it anymore. I'm not even sure if it is still around, sadly I never made it there.

I love CR and have been a handful of times over the years but I just want to know what else is out there along these same lines (if anything?). Unfortunately the days of window shopping in De Wallen, bar hopping in Pattaya or alley crawling in Itaewon are far behind me. Hell, I'm even nervous about the tried and true mp's in the gulch because I'll have to exclusively cab around everywhere. Idk how much HDR has changed in 5 years but I did enjoy being able to just take the elevator down, kick back on the couches in the lobby, check out the revolving talent, and head back up to the room to have fun in a bit more of a relaxed pace. Overpriced as it was the room service is even looking like a pro rather than con nowadays.

Hopefully this question isn't considered off-topic or deleted as it doesn't pertain strictly to CR hotels but more-so similar style establishments across the world. Any help, input, advice, comments, info whatsoever is greatly appreciated. If there isn't much else like this out there then I know SJ is waiting for me but despite long flights and fear of the unknown I'm open to literally any and all suggestions, this time it really may be now or never. Thanks again for anyone that read this long-winded rambling of a once much more spontaneous and independent man.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:37 am 
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You have just described the Hotel you mentioned, the Mansion in Poblado in Medellin, Colombia. Go once and I promise you, you'll be back. The girls start congregating about noon at the M1 which is where you will want to be as the sister hotel, M2, is up the hill and quite a chore to walk up if you are staying at the M2 and go to the M1 to mingle with the chicas. There are plenty of taxis if you can only get a room at the M2. They have a bar downstairs, "La Cueva" , the Cave that cranks up at 6 pm. The pool area shuts down at this time so the poolside guests can have a little peace and quiet. Do some research & figure out which room in M1 you don't want...the one above La Cueva. The chicas are point and click, there are a lot of restaurants that will deliver to the Mansion. Some guys never leave the confines of the M1.

This sounds like what you are looking for.

http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:24 pm 
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Much, much appreciated, my friend. Thank you.

I've never been to Medellin/Colombia (or even South America) before so if anyone has any tips or wisdom they are willing to impart I am all ears. Or even any threads or sources of information that would be helpful. I remember before my first CR trip the "Costa Rica for Newbies" thread proved to be an absolutely invaluable resource.

Also, if anyone has any other suggestions then please feel free to share. Would be cool if there were all inclusive hotels of this nature in Eastern Europe or something where you get to relax, stay and play but they seem to be a Central/South American phenomenon (at least as far as I know). Not that I'm complaining, after my first CR visit and experiencing the "Latina passion" I had heard so many speak of I never ventured back to Amsterdam/Antwerp/etc anyway.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:26 am 
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One point to consider. Although Colombia has evolved incredibly over the last decade, they are still in the dark ages when it comes to accesability for the disabled. I have seen very little in the way of wheelchair access. You will have to climb hills and stairs everywhere.

The above referenced hotel is no exception. Although once you enter, you could stay in a ground level room and spend the majority of your stay on that level.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:50 am 
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Excellent point PR.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:12 am 
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If the OP has mobility issues how do you expect him to get up and down the stairs in La Mansion?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:15 am 
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Jackietrehorn wrote:
If the OP has mobility issues how do you expect him to get up and down the stairs in La Mansion?


Like I told PR, I hadn't thought about that and it was a good point. I don't think the OP is confined to a wheelchair but he may be which would be an obstacle at the Mansion and a lot of other places in COL. If he is not confined to a wheelchair, then the answer to your question would be......slowly!!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:40 pm 
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My apologies, I should have elaborated on my current status (which unfortunately seems to be progressing rather rapidly for the worse, but nonetheless).

I am not a wheelchair user but I have used different forms of aids over the years, including specialized footwear since about 2001. I usually can manage well enough without any aid device (at my own slower and very calculated pace of course) but let's just say I wouldn't be one to inquire about the whereabouts of a fitness or wellness center near the hotel hahaha. I was able to get by well enough my last time in SJ/HDR, even making my way down the steep pothole filled sidewalks from HDR to the shopping/food center/small park down the street without any mishap.

I have never been to Medellin/Colombia so I do need to do some further research but in terms of overall safety would it be similar to San Jose? Like mentioned above, I really wouldn't be leaving the grounds of the hotel much at all, and certainly never at night, but even just moving about outside I have to frequently remind myself of how much of a potential sitting duck or target I could be if anyone wanted to harass me. It's one thing just brushing off the peddlers posted outside HDR or the aggressive pirate cab drivers chasing me down outside SJO but Medellin is an unknown entity to me and I guess it still retains some of its reputation from 25 years ago in my head. Regardless though, as soon as I read above that the Mansion still exists I decided it is something I have to experience. And once again, the input is much appreciated and invaluable so thank you all very much.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:24 pm 
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Old_n_still_use_AOL wrote:
I have never been to Medellin/Colombia so I do need to do some further research but in terms of overall safety would it be similar to San Jose? Like mentioned above, I really wouldn't be leaving the grounds of the hotel much at all, and certainly never at night, but even just moving about outside I have to frequently remind myself of how much of a potential sitting duck or target I could be if anyone wanted to harass me.
As mentioned previously you would probably want to stay in one of the first floor rooms at the Mansion so you wouldn’t have to deal with the steps up to the other rooms. As far as going outside, the area the Mansion is in is pretty hilly so it might prove difficult for you even to go the relatively short distance from Avenida Poblado up to the Mansion.

The area around the Mansion is quite busy and pretty safe, especially in the daytime. Plus there will be other guys staying who would no doubt be happy to go out with you, so it would lessen any chance of you becoming a target. Sounds like your mobility issues would most likely be the limiting factor in anything you might want to do outside of the hotel.

Keep in mind that taxis are ubiquitous and cheap, so you could certainly take a cab somewhere and back and minimize how much you would have to walk. I think the bottom line is not to overthink things. Even if you just stay at the Mansion and keep to the pool area and your room you’ll still have a good time no doubt.

Once you get there you can play it by ear and decide on the fly what makes sense for you once you get the lay of the land. Best thing is to just get down there and not worry about things. It will all work out and if you’re like the majority you’ll be kicking yourself in the ass for not doing it sooner. Have a great time!


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:53 pm 
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Medellin also has an elevation of just under 5000 ft so the air is pretty thin
Besides the stairs its going to affect phucking and walking around, maybe even eating
I like to think i'm in pretty good shape and i found myself dragging on occasion
of course it was four flights of steep stairs just to get to the jacuzzi :P :twisted:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:50 pm 
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If your interest is only mongering then it will be easiest to go to Costa Rica and stay at the SL or HDR. You could contact some one like Pops or BB57 as a wingman and do a few MP visits as well it, should be an enjoyable trip.
There is a brother on the board called "Jacoret" who takes groups to Colombia for a small fee. You could PM him to find out when he is going and if it would be possible for you to go with him.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:16 am 
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Thanks for all the help guys, I'm in the process of arranging my trip as we speak. But If anybody is still checking this thread I just have a few more questions for anyone that has visited the Mansion in Medellin before.

1. At least from what I can gather of the M1 (14 or so rooms?) it is far, far smaller than the 5 floors of HDR but does it still have an varied and decent amount of girls that gather there? I hope there is a similar ratio of girls to guys as HDR at the place because more often than not I'm usually gonna be most girls last choice hahaha so I hope there is enough to go around even for the guys such as myself whom are "an acquired taste" to put it nicely.

2. Is it similar to HDR/SL where the girls are independent and don't work for the house so prices/sessions can be negotiated?
If so what would you say is the going price is for most girls? Does it start at the standard cien like in CR? Typically more? Less? I know it is a case by case basis and many of the regulars here can usually score decent arrangements for themselves but unless any of these ladies have a fetish for Rip Van Winkle or The Crypt Keeper I have a feeling I will be ponying up whatever the premium is LOL!

Thanks again for the assistance guys, getting excited in a way I haven't since my first CR trip years ago. Also if any of you are planning a visit in the near future let me know when to see if it coincides with the potential dates I'm considering at the moment. Would be nice to meet up with some of the crew here and have a few whisky shots and beers, on me of course.


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well whiskey or can a man call his shot? :lol:

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1. At least from what I can gather of the M1 (14 or so rooms?) it is far, far smaller than the 5 floors of HDR but does it still have an varied and decent amount of girls that gather there? I hope there is a similar ratio of girls to guys as HDR at the place because more often than not I'm usually gonna be most girls last choice hahaha so I hope there is enough to go around even for the guys such as myself whom are "an acquired taste" to put it nicely.

From my 2 trips staying at the Mansion...unless there is a special occasion (July 4th) there will , on an average day be maybe 10-12 girls there, maybe not all at the same time tho. Some drift in and out, some stay and do multiple sessions throughout the day depending on their current economic status. I do not think you will have any trouble. You can also cozy up to one of them and after you session with her ask her if she has any friends she thinks may enjoy your company. Probably everyone will hook you up with a friend. I doubt they will get jealous and say , no just stick with me.

2. Is it similar to HDR/SL where the girls are independent and don't work for the house so prices/sessions can be negotiated? They are all independent, vetted by the owners & on a very tight leash so no cutting up or drama is tolerated.
If so what would you say is the going price is for most girls? The first trip (7/16) the fee was 150K Cop (~~$50) , the 2nd trip most were asking 200k COP (~~$67). I would imagine now the going rate is 200k COP.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:25 am 
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Ok...Totally outside the box a bit. Bangkok, and stay at one of the hotels near Nana plaza. One or two flat blocks walk to several hotels (max), and tons of freelancers in the "parking lot" of the Nana hotel, tons of massage shops, dozens of go gos and beer bar type joints, and a poop ton of *******. The point, within a few block radius you have everything. I had my knees replaced last year, and for a year I was pretty disabled, so I do understand the issues well. Send a PM if you want any info.

Of course, travel hassles to get there, but really not a great deal more than going to anywhere else, depending upon connections.

The Masion is a good idea, but Medellin is far hillier and less friendly for this with disabilities. Thailand is not great, but the Nana area is so flat and easy to do. Bangkok (Pattaya yes, but I far prefer Bangkok) should also be on every monger's bucket list. Of course, so should Angeles city, but the sidewalks in AC are like a war zone, and the infrastructure would make it hard.

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