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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 11:16 am 
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If they release CD and simply ban him from entering Costa Rica... I bet he starts showing up in Colombia. Who wants that?

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I agree, the topic is growing wearisome but nevertheless... I don't agree with what CD did and I'm not trashing him or defending him, but do any of us have the morale high ground here? If they don't want their country known for sex tourism, then why not outlaw it and be done with it? If prostitution is "destroying" so many lives, why is it legal? If it is such a small part of the economy why have it at all? And if it's so horrible then why are we participating in it? Believe me, I'm not advocating making it illegal, but just pointing out the fallacy in the entire premise of the law. If this is the case are we all not equally guilty for participating in "exploiting" these vulnerable women?

To me I see nothing wrong with paying a service to a provider for a reasonable fee when both parties are consenting adults. Apparently that is okay to the powers in CR too. But CD destroyed lives because BF's and parents found out about what their adult Ch*ld was doing? I'm sure that didn't go over well, but is the problem, not the business itself? Or is it people finding out the business exists? I'm confused :roll:

My bigger point is that I see a lot of piling on the guy when we could all be, in theory, equally to blame for the business to exist and for lives to be "destroyed". Some could argue if CD got a girl in trouble and she left the business, he actually "saved" her from the wretches of this "terrible"lifestyle. I'm just playing devil's advocate here...the man is facing 4 years in prison, does anyone here think CD would last that long in prison? It essentially would be a death sentence. Hey I'm sure the guy has his faults maybe more than most, I'm pointing out we all do. I'm just surprised at the level of hostility toward the man given his situation and thought I would add a different perspective. As a fellow American and man who has similar proclivities for ladies, I do find sympathy for the man. Whoever can look in the mirror and find no fault in themselves, start casting those stones.. If any other guy was in trouble on this board I'd feel the same about them (given they're not doing something with minors or something similar. Then they should rot in hell). I'm not trying to stir the pot here and I know I'm in the minority opinion but thought I had to say something. No disrespect intended to my fellow travelers, just one newbie's opinion. My buck and a quarter's worth.

Ok "Jesus", I will take the bait and cast a few stones your way. You say you aren't defending CD, but then you go on to do exactly that. I would say that everyone of us that treats the ladies with dignity and respect has the moral high ground. Stop being so closed minded in thinking that the only two options are rampant publicity or illegality. They obviously just want it on the down low.

As several others have pointed out, CD lied to girls to obtain their photographs, published them for profit on social media without their consent, and brought notoriety where it wasn't wanted even after being warned multiple times. Yes, in my opinion, he deserves to be punished for it.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 1:23 pm 
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This topic just wears me out ..... But if y'all are saying he does not deserve a prison sentence then what? A warning? That won't stop him. A fine? Maybe. But face it, this guy isn't too bright and if the legal system wants him to stop promoting CR as a sex destination, per the law, then he has to face the consequences. He was warned by friends and followers and his hubris overruled his better judgement, if such exists.


I agree, the topic is growing wearisome but nevertheless... I don't agree with what CD did and I'm not trashing him or defending him, but do any of us have the morale high ground here? If they don't want their country known for sex tourism, then why not outlaw it and be done with it? If prostitution is "destroying" so many lives, why is it legal? If it is such a small part of the economy why have it at all? And if it's so horrible then why are we participating in it? Believe me, I'm not advocating making it illegal, but just pointing out the fallacy in the entire premise of the law. If this is the case are we all not equally guilty for participating in "exploiting" these vulnerable women?

To me I see nothing wrong with paying a service to a provider for a reasonable fee when both parties are consenting adults. Apparently that is okay to the powers in CR too. But CD destroyed lives because BF's and parents found out about what their adult Ch*ld was doing? I'm sure that didn't go over well, but is the problem, not the business itself? Or is it people finding out the business exists? I'm confused :roll:

My bigger point is that I see a lot of piling on the guy when we could all be, in theory, equally to blame for the business to exist and for lives to be "destroyed". Some could argue if CD got a girl in trouble and she left the business, he actually "saved" her from the wretches of this "terrible"lifestyle. I'm just playing devil's advocate here...the man is facing 4 years in prison, does anyone here think CD would last that long in prison? It essentially would be a death sentence. Hey I'm sure the guy has his faults maybe more than most, I'm pointing out we all do. I'm just surprised at the level of hostility toward the man given his situation and thought I would add a different perspective. As a fellow American and man who has similar proclivities for ladies, I do find sympathy for the man. Whoever can look in the mirror and find no fault in themselves, start casting those stones.. If any other guy was in trouble on this board I'd feel the same about them (given they're not doing something with minors or something similar. Then they should rot in hell). I'm not trying to stir the pot here and I know I'm in the minority opinion but thought I had to say something. No disrespect intended to my fellow travelers, just one newbie's opinion. My buck and a quarter's worth.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 1:34 pm 
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donjuan wrote:
I agree, the topic is growing wearisome but nevertheless... I don't agree with what CD did and I'm not trashing him or defending him, but do any of us have the morale high ground here? If they don't want their country known for sex tourism, then why not outlaw it and be done with it? If prostitution is "destroying" so many lives, why is it legal? If it is such a small part of the economy why have it at all? And if it's so horrible then why are we participating in it? Believe me, I'm not advocating making it illegal, but just pointing out the fallacy in the entire premise of the law. If this is the case are we all not equally guilty for participating in "exploiting" these vulnerable women?

To me I see nothing wrong with paying a service to a provider for a reasonable fee when both parties are consenting adults. Apparently that is okay to the powers in CR too. But CD destroyed lives because BF's and parents found out about what their adult Ch*ld was doing? I'm sure that didn't go over well, but is the problem, not the business itself? Or is it people finding out the business exists? I'm confused :roll:

My bigger point is that I see a lot of piling on the guy when we could all be, in theory, equally to blame for the business to exist and for lives to be "destroyed". Some could argue if CD got a girl in trouble and she left the business, he actually "saved" her from the wretches of this "terrible"lifestyle. I'm just playing devil's advocate here...the man is facing 4 years in prison, does anyone here think CD would last that long in prison? It essentially would be a death sentence. Hey I'm sure the guy has his faults maybe more than most, I'm pointing out we all do. I'm just surprised at the level of hostility toward the man given his situation and thought I would add a different perspective. As a fellow American and man who has similar proclivities for ladies, I do find sympathy for the man. Whoever can look in the mirror and find no fault in themselves, start casting those stones.. If any other guy was in trouble on this board I'd feel the same about them (given they're not doing something with minors or something similar. Then they should rot in hell). I'm not trying to stir the pot here and I know I'm in the minority opinion but thought I had to say something. No disrespect intended to my fellow travelers, just one newbie's opinion. My buck and a quarter's worth.

Ok "Jesus", I will take the bait and cast a few stones your way. You say you aren't defending CD, but then you go on to do exactly that. I would say that everyone of us that treats the ladies with dignity and respect has the moral high ground. Stop being so closed minded in thinking that the only two options are rampant publicity or illegality. They obviously just want it on the down low.

As several others have pointed out, CD lied to girls to obtain their photographs, published them for profit on social media without their consent, and brought notoriety where it wasn't wanted even after being warned multiple times. Yes, in my opinion, he deserves to be punished for it.

You are missing the main point of the argument and opinion...that is, does CD deserve to rot in a CR jail without being charged for anything, for what he allegedly did in violation of this ridiculously vague and untested law...

I believe not.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 2:12 pm 
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does CD deserve to rot in a CR jail without being charged for anything, for what he allegedly did in violation of this ridiculously vague and untested law...

That is very US-centric way of thinking. You believe that it's unfair to sit in prison without charges because if the US we have the right to a "speedy" due process (which btw depends on your socio-economic status). But they don't have that in CR, so in their eyes, there is no injustice. And the fact that the law is untested or un-challenged I'm sure will be argued at the trial. We all know there would not be bail since CD would be a definite flight risk the first chance he got, so that's not a surprise.

I predict that he'll spend 6-12 months in jail while they put the case together, then they will announce that they have decided not to press any charges and he will be deported and banned from CR permanently. I think that is actually the best scenario for him.


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when this topic dies what are we going to talk about? phones? sports?
this is all fall out from a selfish self centered pos
whats fair?
if you really say you care then you missed what one idiot can do to destroy an entire scene
oh the scene will surely go on but open conversation is dead
one moron and i could give a Phuck where he resides

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 2:43 pm 
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when this topic dies what are we going to talk about? phones? sports?
this is all fall out from a selfish self centered pos
whats fair?
if you really say you care then you missed what one idiot can do to destroy an entire scene
oh the scene will surely go on but open conversation is dead
one moron and i could give a Phuck where he resides


+1.... Open conversation is dead. :x

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:06 pm 
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Open conversation is dead..? Really… :shock: say it isn't so, or unplug this site :?


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:12 pm 
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Are you guys really that dense ??

What la Diablo is trying to say (and is extremely accurate) that your missing is.

This used to be a site with shared information. Long before your time when info was useful and backed up by veterans who knew what they were talking about.

Guys like CD and others have ruined that forever for forums and boards of this nature

Hope that clears up the confusion.


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El Silencioso wrote:
Are you guys really that dense ??

What la Diablo is trying to say (and is extremely accurate) that your missing is.

This used to be a site with shared information. Long before your time when info was useful and backed up by veterans who knew what they were talking about.

Guys like CD and others have ruined that forever for forums and boards of this nature

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 2:14 pm 
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I meet Dave on a few occasions he seemed like an OK guy. Yes he did go overboard and profit on his youtube and website. It seems a lot of guys are against him . I would really want to know how many of the guys that against visited his videos and website ? I don't agree with making the CR scene so assessable but CRT did the same thing by putting it on facebook.


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CD is a scumbag but the last I checked that is not against the law. Sure he promoted sexual tourism but so do many others. I just noticed on my local board (ECCIE) there is an ad from a resort in DR that advertises an all adult retreat with adult activities. Also they have pics of half naked hot chics. Even though they dont actually say they are prostitutes, someone would have to be very damn stupid to not assume they are prostitutes. Many of the CRT sponsors do the exact same thing. I have no dog in this hunt but many of you come down on CD for being a scumbag but at least he is open about his activities. How many of you members go to CR to cheat on your SO?.....Let he without sin cast the first stone.


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El Silencioso wrote:
Are you guys really that dense ??

What la Diablo is trying to say (and is extremely accurate) that your missing is.

This used to be a site with shared information. Long before your time when info was useful and backed up by veterans who knew what they were talking about.

Guys like CD and others have ruined that forever for forums and boards of this nature

Hope that clears up the confusion.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 4:26 pm 
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Well said Don Juan.

There is no doubt Dave should have not been exposing this all over the internet. A lot of guys don't want people back home figuring out why they have such a passion for "fishing, zip-lining, eco-tours, river rafting, etc." :lol: uncovered by a simple google search. I have told Dave this in person as well. Despite that, he is a friendly guy and cool to have a drink with. And he should have kept his promise to the chicas not to post. That being said, I have never really been into the whole photo thing. I don't even like seeing idiots aimlessly taking pics in the DR/KL. However, I have a very hard time feeling sorry for adult women who agreed to have their pics. taken in sexually provocative poses on digital cameras in this day and age of electronic media with this new invention called the "world wide web" and then wonder how they got out. :roll: Again, adult women. You put it on a recordable device, just assume it is going to get out-pretty much the lesson of every sex tape scandal. A lot of CRTers have been very sanctimonious on this thread and others; ironic.......Really, CD ruined a prostitutes life? Really, CD ruined it for us b/c we can no longer session with a chica who left the biz b/c of him? C'mon :roll: Where was all this moral high ground when pics of all out orgies were being posted?

And, the secret about CR being a sex destination was well out before CRT, before CD, even before the internet. It was widely written about in newspapers....back when people read newspapers. I do agree that he is being made an example of. I also don't buy into this "informant" theory. What is there to inform on? It's out there and has been.

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However, I have a very hard time feeling sorry for adult women who agreed to have their pics. taken in sexually provocative poses on digital cameras in this day and age of electronic media with this new invention called the "world wide web" and then wonder how they got out. :roll: Again, adult women.


So in other words it's the women's fault?

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