www.CostaRicaTicas.com

I just read through the application, there is nothing there to indicate that the relative/sponsor has to indicate that they have verifiable means of taking care of the "refugee Ch*ld". It asks for proof of a residency such as a lease agreement or utility bill. There is no request to state a source of income or an amount of income in which to support this person.
It does mention that is a process for a case manager to review the application, I would like to know what types of information they gather and what protocols they use to make their decisions.

Lenny- Glad you enjoyed the article I posted, until I read the article I never realized that people of Asian decent we discriminated against for much of our history, it shows how we have evolved over time. It also shows that immigration was state controlled and not a federal government function in our early history. The second one cleared up some mis-conceptions about Ellis Island, most people thought everyone passed through there, however it was only the ones who perceived as not well off and may become a burden on the public.

I kinda like the perspective provided by the judge in the second article. In particular it's interesting how the local charities are stepping up and how many of the Ch*ldren are already reunited with parents and other family members in the US. Now if we can verify that the parents and other relatives already here are not on welfare programs, then opposition should diminish. I recall seeing a while back an article providing statistics on Hispanics on welfare/school lunches/medicaid and the numbers seemed to be proportionately quite low compared to white and black populations. Can anyone else provide info on this?

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enjoy your little liberal circle jerk boys
open borders by any means necessary facts be damned
i'm out

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I wish the U.S. would follow the example being set in the UK: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/immi ... ecomes-law

From the first line of the May 2014 release from the UK government website...."The Immigration Bill received Royal Assent today (14 May) making way for a series of reforms which will ensure our immigration system is fairer to British citizens and legitimate migrants and tougher on those with no right to be here."

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I just read the Judge's perspective. All of the NGO non-profits are the true unsung heroes regarding this situation. Too bad she had to insert her political slant.

A quote from the Op-Ed.
The costs are significant. Every day we detain an undocumented Ch*ld immigrant, it costs Immigration and Customs Enforcement — i.e., the taxpayer — $259 per person, significantly more than we spend to educate a Ch*ld in a middle-class school district.

I have two points in regards to this quote, she does not quote a source of information for the $259.00 per day person claim. I could probably put four people up at a Four Seasons with room service three times a day for less. A room at Four Seasons in Houston starts at $390 per night. Heck I could get them a cabin on Carnival from Galveston for five days from $299.
What are we getting for the $259.00 per day, heck if they would pay me $259 a day I might take a few in.

Now, Now, LADiablo. Don't go away in a huff. That's just acting like Bill O'Reilly overtalking anyone who challenges him. Dropping the "L" bomb and walking away is to say that you are not up to the debate; and I know better. There are others here who share your opinion on this topic. Maybe it's worth yours and their time to find and share facts with the group that are contrary to the opinions being expressed. We are all just searching for answers to a thorny problem and we don't have to be disagreeable to disagree. It's from this type of information sharing that all of our eyes can be opened to different points of view. This is not as simplistic as SEALED or OPEN borders. The workable solution is likely to be somewhere in between or something that none of us have considered.

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im not walking away in a huff Lenny i'm just done w ny and la times being quoted like legit unbiased sources
i've asked several legitimate questions of you and others here without answers
do you believe in open borders? you do but won't openly cop to it.
what about that journey across mexico and what happens to those K*ds you care so much about?
oh the coyotes are good guys and we should arrange passage. what next provide them scooters if they're over weight? maybe pay the coyotes more so they act better?
its absurd and at best intellectually disingenuous.
at worst you are bat shit crazy.
no huff here just not going to walk in circles w agenda oriented people. we can still share a beer and talk about something else fair enough?
and why do you bring up oreilly when i already said I'm a baier/krauthammer/gutfeld guy?
can't remember the last time i went out of my way to watch that blowhard

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Now for A Totally New Concept........(Monty Python)........

What if the US was able to completely seal the border between Mexico and the US? For the sake of discussion, please disregard whether or not that can be physically done. Can the US also seal it's borders along the many creeks and rivers that flow into the Gulf of Mexico? Would the Latinos just start coming into Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida via the Gulf of Mexico? Do any of you know if the ones with more $$ are doing that now?

Somewhat related; If Latinos can travel to Cuba via airplane from their countries of origin, can South Florida reasonably anticipate more boatlifts of Latinos without identification claiming to be from Cuba? How would US immigration prove that they are not from Cuba? "You say you are from Cuba, but you look very much like a Guatemalan." "No senor. Mi Cubano." I assume that people from Cuba still receive feet on the ground rights to stay if they can get to the beach.

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I think this horse was beat to death about 5 pages back.

I'm waiting for the deep thinking intellectuals on MSNBC (especially Ronan Farrow) to weigh in before I form an opinion.

No! Not "open borders"--nobody sane wants that. If, with really a nominal cost, we could funnel those truly in need of fleeing AND with no issues, to safe harbor in the US, this would free up a huge amount of all ICE resources to police the really bad actors trying to sneak in. This is a humane, win-win, both-political-sides-get- something solution to a problem that is not going to disappear. Us squishy-soft Liberals get a better life for k!ds deserving, at no cost to taxpayers; the Right gets more actual control of the border, at no cost to taxpayers, and the US gets a solid group that you know will strive to better themselves and their community; also biz gets a big pool of cheaper, maybe smarter labor.
Here's a perverse thought that might get everybody's blood up: Leave the present system in place, the way it is. Here's the deal: The Journey these k!ds take is a filter. Only the savviest, the toughest, the luckiest get to the US border. That's exactly those we want in--they have proven themselves. Those who decided not to make The Journey can stay home and live their lives; those who attempt The Journey but fail, falling to the wayside--Ah, Destiny. and they might later be a burden, so adios. Those making the grade--welcome and say hello to your grand-aunt who's taking you in. Great system, yes?

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Here's a link to another article in the Tico Times on the Central America immigration to the United States. The writer offers some valuable insights on why the proposals being considered may not have the desired results.

http://www.ticotimes.net/2014/08/01/did ... dium=email

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a little levity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbWg-mo ... oO4RowROiw

Big shout-out to Bro LennyDo for the article. After reading it, look at the comments, especially #4 from Don Adams. Pithy, uncomfortable to remember stuff. Extracted from comment #5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHhZF66C1Dc << I joined the USMC specifically because of the landing in Viet Nam in 1965, and I stayed for 6 years including 2 years in-country--honorable discharge in 1971.

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I don't think you can easily compare the US economy and labor market to CR. The economy in CR is a fraction of a percent of the US. The labor market is quite a bit more restrictive than the US. This is because there are less jobs and the laws are socialized. If CR would permit something equivalent to an H1-B visa, then US workers would have to expect 50% pay decrease, which is the opposite of the condition in the US.

The most interesting point here - CR is the only the country in Central America - where the US has not meddled in it's affairs. The closest we came was when Johnny Walker, a rebel soldier, tried to form a band of Nicaraguan soldiers and take over Guanacaste. This is how the airport got its name. Juan Santamaria sacrificed himself in that ware and kept CR independent.

The CIA and the US military have messed with all the other countries for political reasons. They also have spit them out like piece of shit. Only inside the US, is the US political and military agenda perceived as good-natured. Outside the US, we are perceived as the evil empire.

Case in point: Costa Rica is afraid to buy oil from Venezuela, due to negative repercussions with the US. This would lower the price of gas, and increase the standard of living. However, the US still buys oil from Venezuela, but trashes the country politically.

The US is not innocent. They have supplied guerilllas with arms. They have played dirty politics. The US really needs to start embracing Mexico, Central and South America as neighbors. Why are we sending so much money to places like the Middle East, Iraq and Afghanistan. This may have been the "cradle" of modern civilization, but currently it is a cesspool of corruption and terrorism.

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Excellent post by Bro Chi_trekker. Actually this kind of US hypocrisy extends back to at least WW II--we did business with Nazi Germany throughout that war via a neutral cutout (Sweden).
http://www.zompist.com/latam.html

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