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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:35 am 
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I don't think anyone who knows Eric would believe any of the charges against him. RLFC, your comments are out of line, re-read the story.


You need to reread RLFC comments. He said nothing out of line all he did was post what the hotel advised him concerning room rates.

I think your disagreement is with DGD.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:47 am 
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I wouldn't do an upfront deal like that with my best friend, much less someone I don't know. All I would say is if you go for something like this and get burned, don't complain later. And not saying you will get burned.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:50 am 
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Rlfc1984 wrote:
When I said, I preferred credit card, this is his response:
"What I can do in this particular case is give you the rate of a 100 us dollars
Per night , including tax ."

I am a newbie so I didn't want to do the cash thing until I know the people.

I would be really careful using your CC there. Cash is king. Lets just say that I know 2 guys who got ripped off to the tune of a couple thousand bucks. And this wasn't accidental double billing or overbilling. This was blatant grand larceny. When they disputed the charges with their CC company, the hotel sent their bank fake receipts to "prove" the charges were real.

Is that the kind of place you want to give your CC info to?

The only way that I would stay there is if I walk up and get a room paying cash. It seems that they aren't doing so well since they are offering their $200 rooms for $80. I doubt they would be full.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:25 pm 
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I wouldn't do an upfront deal like that with my best friend, much less someone I don't know. All I would say is if you go for something like this and get burned, don't complain later. And not saying you will get burned.


+1 , I agree completely, this has all the elements of a "smash & grab" , like TW not saying it is but I wouldn't give these guys a credit card for any reason.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:01 pm 
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ID, my issue was that Eric was not involved in any drug deal period, nor did the article say he was.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:47 pm 
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Irish Drifter wrote:
MarkL54 wrote:
I don't think anyone who knows Eric would believe any of the charges against him. RLFC, your comments are out of line, re-read the story.


You need to reread RLFC comments. He said nothing out of line all he did was post what the hotel advised him concerning room rates.

I think your disagreement is with DGD.


And I didn't accuse of him of anything either, in fact I couldn't figure the story (ies) out which is what I posted, and I've been practicing 31 years. All I posted was that I thought it was not wise to be publicly posting allegations about bribes being paid to the people who hold the keys to your cell. That's a personal tactical decision on their part which by the way included throwing his lawyer into the pot. I hope for his sake it's all true and there's a video or audio or one of the takers finds Jesus and repents and testifies. Other than that scenario, I would not have advised that tactic.

Maybe he's getting a really bad deal. His voluntarily coming back to CR after things got crazy somewhat impressed me. And I did smell somewhat of a "set-up" with his "friend (s)" and the free car ride to the party in Jaco. And I am aware of the CR court system "not getting it right" at times.

Reminds me of the beach town gringo bar owner who shot and killed a Tico, Pacifico maybe 5-6 years ago. Supposedly there was an eyeball who saw that it was an armed robbery and clear self defense. This poor gringo languished a long time in preventive detention and I think he lost the bar while sitting.

I don't know what the outcome was.

So, I am not challenging Eric's friends who are running the "Free Eric" website as to his innocence, or being critical of any of his prior decisions leading up to this, and of course wish him the best of luck.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:40 pm 
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Here's the gringo bar owner I was referring to above, wow, was 10 years ago, man time flies:

Judges set Roger Crouse free
By Saray Ramírez Vindas
and Jay Brodell
of the A.M. Costa Rica staff

Roger Crouse, the Canadian bar owner who languished in prison for more than a year, went free Tuesday when judges found he was not guilty of murder.

This was the news telephoned to San José by his lawyers, Frank Paniagua and Marilyn Jiménez, minutes after the 1 p.m. decision in the Tribunals in Liberia.

In addition to being freed on the murder charge, Crouse also does not have to pay an indemnification to the family of the victim, Miguel Antonio Villegas Salguera, 36. Crouse said he shot the man Aug. 19, 2001, because the man came at him with a knife in Crouse´s Gaby´s Bar in Playas del Coco.

The three judges found that sufficient doubt existed that Crouse had done what the prosecution tried to show: kill the man in cold blood due to a falling out among crooks. A series of three public prosecutors believed in the murder theory enough to keep the case going and keep Crouse in jail in Liberia in what is know as "prisión preventiva."

The case began when the victim acted disorderly in Crouse´s bar. Crouse called police, and police took the man away. But officers of the Fuerza Pública inexplicably released the man two hours later, and the man, still drunk and affected by drugs, returned to the bar and confronted the Canadian.

Police told reporters they released the man because Crouse failed to file a formal complaint because he was still working at the bar. Others in Coco suggested that police were deferential to the man because he was a well-known local troublemaker and police feared him and his extended family.

Crouse also has reason to fear friends and relatives of the dead man. He has received death threats, and his waitress, who witnessed the crime, also said she had been threatened. The lawyers said that Crouse probably would not return to the Pacific beach town.

In addition to the bar, Crouse owned a limo

The bar has been burglarized multiple times, and the two vehicles he used have been vandalized. One was towed away. Acting in Crouse´s favor, the lawyers said, was the testimony of two persons from Coco who attested to his standing in the community and also the fact that he had a clean police record.

The key element that kept the public prosecutors interested in the case was that the dead man´s hand gripped the knife in death. Crouse said the man used the knife to threaten him. The prosecutors thought that the knife was placed in the hand by Crouse after the shooting, even though the man fell face forward and the knife was under the body.

However, Aug. 15 a pathologist for the Judicial Investigating Organization testified in what observers considered a favorable development for Crouse. The man said that body spasms due to violent death sometimes cause a person to grip and hold an object in the hand even though their body falls to the floor. The judges presumably agreed.

The pathologist was Jorge Aguilar Peréz of the Heredia forensic lab.

The Crouse case was watched closely by other foreign residents of Costa Rica because neither in Canada nor in the United States would he have been incarcerated, much less threatened with 8 to 12 years in prison upon conviction.

The waitress and two Canadian tourists were present when the shooting took place. They supported Crouse´s account. In addition, the victim told police when he was let go that he was going to return and kill Crouse. An autopsy showed that the man was drunk and had ingested drugs. The man also has a record of violence.

Crouse had bad luck choosing lawyers, which may have contributed to his continual imprisonment. He went through about five advocates before finding Paniagua and Ms. Jiménez.

As is allowed under Costa Rica law, the family of the dead man was seeking compensation in the six-figure range. At one time Crouse was offered bail for about $60,000, but he did not accept the offer that probably would have allowed him to flee the country.

Crouse returned to the Liberia jail to pick up his possessions after the decision, then he and his lawyers traveled to their office where they toasted the successful outcome of the case, said an aide.

Crouse was believed to be staying with friends but not in Coco for the night.

Did he get a bum deal? Was Roger Crouse treated badly because he was a North American?

Yes and no, Costa Rican judicial observers say.

Because he was a foreigner, judges did not want him to go free on bail because he might flee, said these observers. But they would have done the same to any foreigner, they contended.

And the natural conservatism of Costa Rican society is why the judicial process dragged on for a year, these same observers said. Murder is a serious crime and the legal process had to run its course, they said.

Curiously, the Crouse case was not followed by any other news outlet, Spanish or English. However, A.M. Costa Rica closely followed events, and directed the attention of judicial officials in San José to the case to insure Crouse would not be lost in the shuffle.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:03 pm 
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I agree with Orange about giving them a credit card. A few years back we were partying there and my friend put the bill on his CC about $600. when he got his statement he had another charge for $1200 from some club we never went to. the only place he used that card that trip was at the M. I heard of this story months ago and also know the other person involved( a former bar owner in Guadalupe)


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:20 pm 
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To all,

I did not intend to disparage Eric's name as I do not know him (to my knowledge).

I however, did read the website and formed my own conclusions and state my opinion.

If I am wrong in my statement, i sincerely apologize to all that I have offended.

However, like every argument, there are three sides to it. His, hers, and somewhere between is the truth, whatever that truth may be.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:22 pm 
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[quote="MarkL54"]Eric may be innocent, and it looks the other guy is trying to "steal his hotel" by keeping him in jail a long time until Eric finally gives up and is willing to do anything just to get out of jail.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 5:10 pm 
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More reason for no upfront money.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:31 pm 
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showing my age here, BUT!!!! "DANGER, DANGER, Will Robinson!!!!!


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:24 am 
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Well the 1k really isnt a hell of a lot of dough if the deal works out for the nights promised itd be great. On another note wow what a nightmare for our Gringo Bro Eric huh. Man I feel for the guy. I surely hope things work out well for him .

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:03 am 
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DonCarlos wrote:
Many of you who have been to Hotel / Club M know Michel, who has helped to manage the M for some time. Now that Eric is sitting in preventative detention in a Puntarenas prison she is running the show.

Michel gave an interview to Diario Extra in October, which explains the position of her new husband, Eric.

http://www.diarioextra.com/2011/octubre ... esos08.php

For those who are not fluent in Spanish, Michele says in the interview that Eric is innocent of the charges, and that the man identified as a victim in the kidnap case is seeking the hotel property as compensation. There are allegations of bribery.

The fact that Eric did marry someone in Costa Rica is verifiable online through the public website of the Civil Registry.

http://www.tse.go.cr/consulta_persona/c ... t_ext.aspx

Just type in his name and you get the record. It's the same for all foreigners married in Costa Rica.

Unfortunately for Eric he never received legal residency during his time in Costa Rica. The consequence is that as a foreign visitor in this country he will have to remain behind bars until his rather complex case can be decided. I expect it could require several years or more.

This is one of the obvious drawbacks of being a perpetual tourist in Costa Rica. It seems odd that some one with a substantial investment and operating business would not take the steps required to establish legal residency.

In Costa Rica it is legal for a victim of a crime to hire their own prosecutor and bring charges against the perpetrator. It's also legal for the attorneys to work out a financial settlement. In the United States this is not legal in the criminal justice system, but its standard practice in Costa Rica.


Wow, some story! Screenwriters need to get their hands on this story and turn it into a telenovela. The royalties could be used to pay attorney fees.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:09 am 
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Hey,
I also heard about it, anyway I don't think so this would happen, not too sure but I also want to know about it.
seriously ! please tell if anyone knows :)

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