Srilm,
I agree with MG, you won't get any admiration from me or, hopefully and presumably, anybody else. What really gets me is that you just don't get and actually seem to be proud of what you do and think the rest of us would like to do ourselves if we only had the balls.
My "great humanitarian" comment was said sarcastically (hence the emoticon that followed it), but I wasn't the one talking about how "the ladies who go home with me always get their drinks for free" as if that were some kind of noble act.
Also, there is no western thinking on my part going on here. My point is that you should know how it sometimes works in the west, like it or not. If you don't want girls to "scam" you for drinks, then simply don't offer to buy them any to begin with or else understand that you may just be pissing away your money. The control is all yours unless you choose to give it away. In fact, if any western thinking is going on here it is yours in thinking that the only way to try and pick up women is to spend (or act like you are going to spend) a lot of money on them. If finding girls who will go home with you without your having to pry them with free drinks is so hard, then at least save your money for places like CR where at least it won't cost you as much to buy their affections.
Misleading some foolish sap into falsely ASSUMING he has a shot is certainly a mean thing to do, but caveat emptor applies whenever you're trying to pick up girls in bars. And, besides, 2 wrongs don't make a right. Trying to stick anybody for the tab not just the for the drinks that YOU voluntarily offered to buy them, but all of the drinks you drank yourself, can never be justified, makes you just as bad as any of them and only serves to reinforce the negative stereotypes gringas have about men as creeps not to be trusted either. The best way to deal with it is simply to avoid those types of women or, if you can't, at least tread carefully before laying out lots of cash on a gal who is not an absolute lock.
What makes you THINK that those girls wanted to have some strange guy pick them up, take them home and screw them for the price of a few drinks? The fact that they got dressed up so sexy? That might mean they're trying to attract SOMEbody's attention (though not necessarily yours). The fact that they laughed at a few of your jokes? That might mean they like you at least a little bit (or the drinks you're plying them with) and might be interested in giving you their number to ask them out later, but it doesn't necessarily mean they want to roll over on their heels and spread their legs for you that night. Did all of these that girls you've stiffed for the drinks you said you were buying them and the many drinks you had yourself, all actually say they'd let you Phuck them if you bought them drinks? I doubt it.
Honestly, I never heard such ridiculous rationalization in my life. If you really think that things should work differently then they do, then at least ALWAYS be completely upfront about it from the beginning instead of trying to teach them some sort of lesson after the fact that. The only lesson they will learn if any is that some guys are just as "scummy" and untrustworthy as you seem to think most of them are. If your way is really so fair then none of them should have any problem with your upfront offer. Better yet, rather seeing it as your self-appointed job to teach women to live up to some sort of bargain that probably exists only in your mind, you should just forget about women who think they can lay out those terms (you have to buy them free drinks and meals and "maybe" you'll win the prize) and instead live up to your own words and lay out your terms from square one. Sister, you're either into me or your not, I don't care because I don't need to buy girls like you.
In this particular case, IF you REALLY told this girl AHEAD of time that she'd have to pay the tab for all her drinks and yours or else sleep with you, AND she AGREED to it by drinking with you, then she had an obligation to pay in one way or the other. she should had the choice on how to live up to the contract, but I find it really find it hard to believe that any gringa would ever agree to that unless she was already some cheap whore that didn't mind putting out for a few drinks. Personally, there is something about your story that doesn't quite add up. For example, what sort of place lets you run up a $300 bar tab without at least running a credit card? And, if you knew the girl was macking on the bartender every time you went to the bathroom, what made you think she was really that much into you? And, if you knew she wasn't really that much into you, why did you let her continue to con you (or let her thinkshe was coning you) into buying not only her but now all her friends so many more drinks? And is it really worth all that trouble to pursue chicks who supposedly play such games and really aren't into you (or likely to respond that enthusiastically later to your sexual techniques) rather than simply moving on and finding a nicer girl who actually is into you?
Like Jmac said, unconventional approach, but hey if it works for you then go for it. That's your choice. Personally, I'll stick to my more "conventional" ways.
Last edited by Prolijo on Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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