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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 9:53 am 
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Many (most) guys on CRT will argue strongly against using an escort service in Costa Rica.. Their arguments are often valid ones: There is an incredible variety of independents and massage girls, so why limit yourself with an escort? The costs are too high. You’re buying sight unseen. Etc. Etc.

All these arguments are valid, but I’m writing today to make an argument for using an escort service. My argument centers around convenience, guarantee of service quality and privacy.

Convenience: If you are staying in a hotel outside San Jose, perhaps at the airport, an escort will be more convenient than coming into the Gulch to hunt. I look at ******* a lot like Domino’s Pizza; there are times when I don’t want to dress up and go into town to get a pizza, even if the pizza in town is better and cheaper.
In theory, this convenience includes the escort chica arriving on time; if you make a date with an independent, chances are that she will be late and equally often, won’t show.

Along with convenience, I’d include safety. Using an escort minimizes your exposure to potentially dangerous elements in the Gulch. Taxi ripoffs, muggers, pickpockets and the like won’t confront you, nor will Shoeshine Boy, the “Cuban Cigar” sellers, Burnt Boy or the guys with the fake Ray Bans and Rolexes.

Guarantee of service: Unless you’re pretty good at the game, chances are that you will occasionally be disappointed in the quality of the service you receive from many independents. Clock-watching, cellular telephone abuse, rushed time…all of these and others are problems that can be avoided by using an escort service. A good service will back the client, and if he is dissatisfied will make efforts to make it right.
Of course, it’s up to the client to complain early in the session if there is a problem. Like many other service business transactions, waiting until after the service has been rendered to complain about it is often useless.

Privacy: Remember when Derek Jeeter got spotted at the HDR? Whoever spotted him couldn’t wait to publish the sighting on the Internet. ******* provide a discreet way for men to find company; no one needs to know about the date but the agency, the escort and her client. The Spitzer case only came to light in the U.S. because prostitution is illegal in New York, and Spitzer had been overbearing in his prosecution of vice.
In C.R. where prostitution is legal, ******* can work more discreetly. For some of us, showing up on the HDR webcam or having an associate spot us in the Gulch could be disastrous.

Costs: Costs will vary from agency to agency, and some agencies offer multiple prices. While it is true that agencies tend to be more expensive than hiring an independent, this isn’t always the case. As an example, G y G ******* (still a CRT sponsor offering a 10% discount to VIP members) can be less expensive than a del Rey debutante.

Based on the argument above, the best client for an escort agency would be someone who is staying in a hotel outside el Centro, who chooses to remain discreet and wants to avoid being seen in the Gulch, or who simply doesn’t like to hunt.
. Another likely client for an escort might be someone who is disabled. As hard a time as I have had moving around the Gulch because of my blindness, I can’t begin to imagine how tough it would be for a guy in a wheelchair.

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1. When you contact an agency, be sure to communicate exactly what you’re looking for. If you don’t like bolt-ons, if you want flaca or if you need a woman who is expert at oral, don’t be too shy to ask.
2. Make sure that both you and the agency are in agreement about price, time and services expected.
3. Request the agency provide you with photos via e-mail of the girl they are sending prior to the date; if you don’t like her looks you can request a different girl. This makes it easier for you and the agency.
4. After she shows up at your door, do a fast assessment. Does anything feel wrong about her personality or attitude? Have you been baited and switched? Does she smell bad? The time to complain is within five minutes of her arrival, not two days after the date.


Remember that your satisfaction with any encounter, escort, MP girl or indy is 50% your responsibility. Your attitude and behavior can make a so-so encounter into a dynamite one, or conversely can turn a potentially epic encounter to shit. Every date is YMMV.

I have been in contact with Alexandra from Latina Network and with Johanna from G y G. I don’t know if I will book an escort during my late August trip, but I might. We shall see.

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Very valid points, El C. :wink:

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I am planning to give Alexandra from Latina Network a try on my next trip just for a change. I am very selective when choosing from either the DR or SL. Some of her girls look great and I am willing to take a chance.

Sometimes you just want delivery vs. going out and picking-up.


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Pacifica55 wrote:
Very valid points, El C. :wink:


Agree here but El C. the thought and the chase of mongering is taken out with a service and that is why I do not use. My first experience in CR was the worst. A CBJ at ZB :x of all places so I can relate to not wanting that to happen. I learned from my mistake and I am more choosy and never do I pick a lady I do not connect with, that is why I go to most of the same places and that way I can speak to the lady before we do the deed 8) I also cannot get past the fact that with a picture on a service's web site that looks great, it would be very disapointing if the lady showed up and was not like what I just ordered :shock: Also the choices of the HDR or most of the MP's is great in CR and I hear better in other places. A service completely takes that away. I do know that some are shy and that a service is ideal, but I know for a fact that the DR can take the shyness out of most :D

I guess as usual different strokes for different folks :?

Always a great post EL C

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Unspoken but valid is the point that it will keep (it is to be hoped) a certain number of over-spending bozos out of our favorite watering holes and other spots. They can "tres cien" all they want as long as it's it Alajuela, etc. Just a thought.

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Unspoken but valid is the point that it will keep (it is to be hoped) a certain number of over-spending bozos out of our favorite watering holes and other spots. They can "tres cien" all they want as long as it's it Alajuela, etc. Just a thought.


And a good thought at that...but again, if you're using an agency like G y G for a multiple hour date, then the costs can be similar to, or lower than costs incurred at the HDR, KL or SL. :D

Believe me, I am not an overspending bozo. I seek value. Low price doesn't always equal best value, for example I have paid $200.00 for a six hour date with an SL girl...and it was worth every damn centavo. :twisted: This is of course why they say, "YMMV." :D

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NYG wrote:
Pacifica55 wrote:
Very valid points, El C. :wink:


Agree here but El C. the thought and the chase of mongering is taken out with a service and that is why I do not use. My first experience in CR was the worst. A CBJ at ZB :x of all places so I can relate to not wanting that to happen. I learned from my mistake and I am more choosy and never do I pick a lady I do not connect with, that is why I go to most of the same places and that way I can speak to the lady before we do the deed 8) I also cannot get past the fact that with a picture on a service's web site that looks great, it would be very disapointing if the lady showed up and was not like what I just ordered :shock: Also the choices of the HDR or most of the MP's is great in CR and I hear better in other places. A service completely takes that away. I do know that some are shy and that a service is ideal, but I know for a fact that the DR can take the shyness out of most :D

I guess as usual different strokes for different folks :?

Always a great post EL C

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And so on and so on and shooby-dooby-dooby.... ooh, sha-sha...."

I certainly enjoy the hunt more than the delivery method... most of the time. OTOH, to me the escort represents a nice balance between convenience, security and price...and it can be lots more fun than an MP session (certainly convenient), because the girl comes to your room.

Look, the Domino's Pizza example is a good one. It's fast and convenient, although I prefer a small pizzeria downtown that ends up being less expensive and higher quality than Domino's. Sometimes however, you just want to kick back in your room and have her come to you.

If you're an experienced monger, chances are that you have a little black book of numbers you can call to arrange the same "delivery convenience" as an escort, but for some new guys and for the reasons I listed above, the escort makes sense. :D

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El Ciego wrote:
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Pacifica55 wrote:
Very valid points, El C. :wink:


If you're an experienced monger, chances are that you have a little black book of numbers you can call to arrange the same "delivery convenience" as an escort :D


Exactly, but you must go out make some mistakes and contacts to get to this point. BTW I know I should not have shown you that book :lol: :lol: :lol:

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ONCE AGAIN, I point out:

By the time you add in ALL the travel costs to come here and use an escort service, you are paying about the same as you would in the states. AND THERE ARE LATINAS AVAILABLE IN VIRTUALLY EVERY AREA OF THE STATES!! If you come here, stay in your room and do not go out and experience the thrill and excitment of looking for a chica that you connect with, why come here???. For those wanting to call a chica up and have her come to your room; just spend one day/night meeting and talking to chicas in any of the venues (Del REY, KL, SL, MPs); get their phone # and then call her and ask her to come to your room. You are not relying on a foto and/ or someone else's discription., you know the personality, and you know there is a connection. You will pay less, and in many cases have little or no clock watching; especially if it is a MP chica. I pay very attractive MP chicas $30 to $50 to come to my place for 2-3 hours. And once again, before someone says "I would never do a MP chica because they are not top quality; I have seen more than once, guys who had said that leave the REY with a chica who had spent the day working in a MP then moonlighting in the Rey. Yes, some times the chica will not show or will (often) be late. I had the same problem when using ******* in the states and regardless of what has been said here, I DO BELIEVE the same problem will exist with ******* here. So what if you can call up and complain--she is still late and you are still doing without!!.

Sorry but I just do not see any validity in using an Escort here in Costa Rica unless you are a celebrity or a person that can not be seen in public in a mongering area (a preacher or politician, etc) AND YOU ARE HERE PRIMARILY FOR SOME OTHER REASON.

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Last weekend I was in the Del Rey, Key Largo, Sportsmen's Lodge, Pantera Rosa, Hotel M and Zona Blue. I spoke to exactly 6 chicas in 3 days. Three of whom I knew from 2 years ago. Two of those were the only two I sessioned with on this trip (both were $100 for TLN).

I did see 2 or 3 others that, under different circumstances, I might have taken some time to speak with but I just didn't make the effort.

Sometimes you just don't feel like going through the B.S. That might be one of the times you would feel more like just picking up the phone and calling a "delivery" service.

To each his own.

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Just one more question:

If you are 'just too tired or just do not feel like talking to and choosing a chica', JUST HOW MUCH EFFORT ARE YOU GOING TO PUT INTO A SESSION TO MAKE IT A WORTHWHILE EXPERIENCE :?: :?: :?: no matter where she comes from :!: :idea:.

Not trying to start an aurgement here, and certainly am not defending gringas; but that just might be one reason many Gringos have such a low opinion of gringas--TO DAMN LAZY TO PUT OUT ANY EFFORT IN ORDER TO HAVE A QUALITY AND EXCITING TIME!!

OH! hell am I going to get flamed now :twisted: :evil:

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Article in today's Sun Sentinel

West Palm chef gets 10 years for seeking sex with Costa Rican teen

BY VANESSA BLUM | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
11:14 PM EDT, May 29, 2008

He arranged to have sex with a teenage prostitute in Costa Rica, only to learn the smooth-talking salesman booking his trip was an undercover detective working for the FBI.

For Jorge Muentes, 48, a West Palm Beach resident with no criminal record and no history of Ch*ld abuse, it would be a very costly lesson.

On Thursday, a Fort Lauderdale federal judge sentenced Muentes to10 years in prison for attempting to cause a minor to engage in prostitution and trying to travel for sex with a minor.

Though Muentes was arrested at Miami International Airport before he could follow through on his alleged plans, U.S. District Judge James Cohn said he was bound to impose the mandatory-minimum prison term of 10 years.



"That's the way our system works, whether we like it or not," Cohn said.

At his trial in March, the husband and father insisted he was entrapped and never intended to have sex with a teenager. Before his sentencing, he asked Cohn for a second chance.

"I love my country," he said. "I've never been in trouble in my entire life."

Muentes worked as a chef and butler in wealthy South Florida homes, including former Palm Beach Mayor Lesly Smith's.

In September 2007, Muentes contacted Latin American Pleasure Tours, a phony travel agency the FBI ran. Muentes' calls were routed to the FBI's Miami headquarters and answered by Richard Love, a retired Fort Lauderdale police detective who posed as the agency's owner. Muentes ultimately paid $1,675 for air travel to Costa Rica, a hotel suite and 24 hours of sexual services.

In their first conversation, Love told Muentes he could hire a prostitute between 14 and 27 years old.

"Let's go young ... very young," Muentes said. Love suggested a 14- to 16-year-old and Muentes agreed.

"That was a huge mistake," Cohn told Muentes at Thursday's hearing.

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Californicationdude wrote:
Article in today's Sun Sentinel

West Palm chef gets 10 years for seeking sex with Costa Rican teen

BY VANESSA BLUM | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
11:14 PM EDT, May 29, 2008

He arranged to have sex with a teenage prostitute in Costa Rica, only to learn the smooth-talking salesman booking his trip was an undercover detective working for the FBI.

For Jorge Muentes, 48, a West Palm Beach resident with no criminal record and no history of Ch*ld abuse, it would be a very costly lesson.

On Thursday, a Fort Lauderdale federal judge sentenced Muentes to10 years in prison for attempting to cause a minor to engage in prostitution and trying to travel for sex with a minor.

Though Muentes was arrested at Miami International Airport before he could follow through on his alleged plans, U.S. District Judge James Cohn said he was bound to impose the mandatory-minimum prison term of 10 years.



"That's the way our system works, whether we like it or not," Cohn said.

At his trial in March, the husband and father insisted he was entrapped and never intended to have sex with a teenager. Before his sentencing, he asked Cohn for a second chance.

"I love my country," he said. "I've never been in trouble in my entire life."

Muentes worked as a chef and butler in wealthy South Florida homes, including former Palm Beach Mayor Lesly Smith's.

In September 2007, Muentes contacted Latin American Pleasure Tours, a phony travel agency the FBI ran. Muentes' calls were routed to the FBI's Miami headquarters and answered by Richard Love, a retired Fort Lauderdale police detective who posed as the agency's owner. Muentes ultimately paid $1,675 for air travel to Costa Rica, a hotel suite and 24 hours of sexual services.

In their first conversation, Love told Muentes he could hire a prostitute between 14 and 27 years old.

"Let's go young ... very young," Muentes said. Love suggested a 14- to 16-year-old and Muentes agreed.

"That was a huge mistake," Cohn told Muentes at Thursday's hearing.


Still another reason for the HDR, SL or a MP :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Just one more question:
If you are 'just too tired or just do not feel like talking to and choosing a chica', JUST HOW MUCH EFFORT ARE YOU GOING TO PUT INTO A SESSION TO MAKE IT A WORTHWHILE EXPERIENCE :?: :?: :?: no matter where she comes from :!: :idea:.

Bangbang,
I was tired on Friday (worked that day before flying down that evening) and did go home alone that night.

Saturday afternoon I ran into one lady I have known since 2005. We have had numerous sessions together but I hadn't been down since 2006 so we had some time to make up. If she had not shown up for our midnight rendezvous I already had a couple suitable substitutes in mind.

While drinking with her we ran into the other lady at the Key Largo (just coincidence) so I sat something up with her for Sunday night. I almost gave her to another CRT member but she was waiting for me at the appointed time and was looking especially fetching (all for me I told myself) so I kept her for the night.

As for any question of my "underperforming", they both seemed pleased in the morning with our time together (not just the $). I'll be back in San Jose soon. We can look them up and you can ask them if they thought it was a "worthwhile experience".

I know I was happy! :lol:

Bear in mind a person's perspective is much different when just blowing into town for a 3-day weekend than a man who lives there and has all the time in the world to hunt.

One other note, I spent 3 weeks in Thailand in March. After that experience the Del Rey with all the silicone and attitude left me a little less than overwhelmed.

I'm glad I got to meet you. See you soon.
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What does it really matter if someone chooses to use an agency, or go to a Tico MP? Everything is relative to each person, their expectations, and their life's experiences.

My best friend from high school is a multi-millionaire. He always had the gift to gab when selling, but when it came to women I was always the front man. For him a couple of hundred dollars is like 1,000 colones (or less) to me. The convenience of having a lady come to him without having to hustle would be worth substantial more than what ******* are charging. Thousands of dollars just ain't sh*t to him, he pisses away more on his airplane than I make in a year. We have discussed this, and it is one of the reasons that I have never brought him down. He would hate the chase and throw money at women, while I enjoy the chase and keeping as much in my pocket as I can. To each their own, but if I had millions I may think differently.

Maybe it is just me, but over the last year it seems that more of the CRT brotherhood feels that their opinion, and feelings, must be the only way, and absolutely right. IMHO, state how you feel, and let it go. Mongering is not a data driven life style, it is all about judgment. In the absence of data, my judgment can never be right no matter what. That can never change no matter how many posts, or words, I write about something.

It seems to me that an interesting poll might be about how many men have changed their minds due to what another man wrote in response to his judgment. :shock:

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