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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:07 pm 
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Hello old friends and other board guys

I have not posted in a long time but it has always been great seeing old buddies and meeting new friends thanks to Tomas and his great site.

After years of dealing with people and this culture, I would like to make some
commentary about the "real deal" down here.

1. Tica/os do not appreciate generosity. In fact, they see you as weak and
careless with your money.

2. They generally will all try to latch on to you by "being your friend". 99%
of the time the friendship will cost you money.

3. In many cases they will "abuse" your "friendship" by trying to take
advantage of you and get indignant when you catch them.

4. Finally, when you want to cut them off, they will wine and cry like
Babi*s and take no responsibility for their misdeeds.

5. They never learned that you can shear a sheep many times but only
kill him once.


For those making these relationships, this commentary may open your eyes in "fantasy land" and understand the "real deal" down here.

Another example last night. Drunk gringo who wants to act like a bigshot
buys the DR bartenders shots. 2 minutes of that and out comes the $135 bar bill. Even worse, the bartender wines for a big tip and the a hole gives him 5,000 more. After getting screwed for the drinks, the dumb ass rewards her with a tip. Guys... wise the phuck up

Hope this saves one or two sheep wandering in.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:10 pm 
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Another example last night. Drunk gringo who wants to act like a bigshot
buys the DR bartenders shots. 2 minutes of that and out comes the $135 bar bill. Even worse, the bartender wines for a big tip and the a hole gives him 5,000 more. After getting screwed for the drinks, the dumb ass rewards her with a tip. Guys... wise the phuck up


Have to agree one hundred percent. The thing is American men are so conditioned/house broken/brain-washed to treat every opportunity with women as something that needs to have heaps of cash thrown at it, that they seem helpless to do otherwise when faced with different
circumstances and it just phucks up the situation in the new locale.

I think about all the numerous guys that have gotten in trouble with hookers in CR and elsewhere and it all comes down to one thing: Money, they think you have it and they want it. As long as you treat it like any other business situation you will be fine, as soon as you let the little head starting think for yyou it is all over. :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:35 pm 
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True but I see this as basic human nature & expect it. Just because we get what we want doesn't make these people something wonderful or really that different. Gringos (both sexes) many times act the same. Once they feel they have worked hard to be your friend & think you are weak enough to take advantage of only to find out you are not, then they get pissed off. It is just human nature.

I can live with all this because I never let Ticas really get to know me & just enjoyed the best part of the transaction.

Amazing how insecure & weak minded so many men are playing in the gulch. It is such a simple game. Showing off is just stupid IMHO. KC these men that do this are beyond amazing :lol: :lol: ! You get nothing for it but problems & trouble. Even if the money is falling out of the sky for a guy who needs the wrong kind of attention???

I have been doing this for so long leaving it so simple, wearing simple but clean clothes, paying with simple small amounts of money while I call as little attention to myself as possible. I get the exact same thing & maybe more than the idiot blowhards that strut their insecurity around. The good thing is I don't create all the headaches for myself like these other men.

If a guy wants to show off a little do it with something that has some real value like speaking their language (PRICELESS!!)

Sad thing is stupid is as stupid does & these men never seem to be able to get a grasp on themselves.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:51 pm 
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King Costa wrote:
Hello old friends and other board guys


1. Tica/os do not appreciate generosity. In fact, they see you as weak and careless with your money.



KC, although I have come to know quite a few and I mean quite a few genuine and kind Costa Rican folks over the years, what you stated above I really have to agree with to a great extent. Most of them are like that. Period.

Their heads seem to think this way : since you are richer than us, you are entitled to be milked, to be overcharged, to be royally screwed, and you can afford to lose.

Just don't get fooled by the sunshine, playa, fiesta, tits and smiles. There are good ticos but always keep your guards up. It's a phucking different culture. When in doubt, think Lee. :lol:


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After getting screwed for the drinks, the dumb ass rewards her with a tip. Guys... wise the phuck up


Super dumb ass. Hope he'll learn.



TimBones wrote:
As long as you treat it like any other business situation you will be fine, as soon as you let the little head starting think for yyou it is all over. :lol:


You certainly got that right.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:10 pm 
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The gulch is a pit. Snakes will always have to be watched. Morals of the gulch are not generally representative of all of Costa Rica. Most gringos who find trouble down here dont do so in a movie theater, a restaurant or a museum. Not preaching, just stating the facts. I love this gentleman monger thing... When you go into the pit, you better watch your ass all the time and not be like sooooooo many naive gringos you see in the gulch everyday.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:15 pm 
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I can agree with some of this. But it is definately wrong to paint a whole countries people with the same brush. CR and the Del Rey in particular seem to attract the same crowd to some degree as some of the Vegas clubs.People who need to show off thier ability to spend money. I can laugh at those in Del Rey doing it as much as I can laugh at those people paying a $100 cover charge at a club in Vegas. And the ticos are capitalizing on it. Nothing wrong with that, imo.

But as has been said 100 times before and will probably be said 1000 times more, learn the language. Take some time to truly understand the culture. You will find alot of good ticas. They are everywhere. Just do not put yourself in an impossible situation. If you are in your 60's speaking no espanol, do not fall in love with a 19yo that speaks no english.Make sense?Do not be a "typical American" spending your vacation telling a local how your garage is bigger than his house (have heard this 4 times in trips to Morroco, SEA, and Central America). Almost exclusively by East Coast residents.

I have made a few ticas friends over the last few trips. Some work the Del Rey, some at mp's, one at Sportsmans. When I am not there we correspond through emails and when I get there I am a welcome guest at thier homes. I have met the K*ds of two of them and the mom of one. Cost me nothing but a few souvenirs from home. Amazing how excited they get over a few refrigerator magnets, some chocolates, and a beach towel with the Vegas skyline on it. And a monkey from Wal-Mart that makes kissing noises ($2). I do not understand the mentality of some of us, probably never will. But this is how I do it. And it works for me.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:32 pm 
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When your whole experience of the country is had in the Del Rey and the gulch I can see how you might be disillusioned into thinking that they are all out to get your dough.
Get out and see the country and realize what a great place it is with nice people and you may change your tune.
When I have encountered negative mongers who constantly complain about CR I always say " No one is forcing you to come here. If its so awful stay the phuck home."


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:30 pm 
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King Costa can speak for himself but trust me guys he has been all over the country and spent more time outside the gulch than most of us and long before some of you :roll: ever even heard of CR.
King Costa wrote:
After years of dealing with people and this culture,...

By the way KC I'm still waiting for a marriage update here!-
https://costaricaticas.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3708
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:29 pm 
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For A LOT of guys, they are trying to live out the super-wealthy Casanova fantasy. They see guys in the clubs back home who spend money like it is water and have girls flocking over them. They want to replicate it in Costa Rica, so they do the same thing. Part of the interesting dichotomy of this fantasy is that these guys want to believe that the girls are with them because they like rich guys, and not because they are being paid.

I think this stems from insecurity and self-esteem issues. Many of these guys have a desperate need to be validated by others, both the chicas and other guys around them, and wish to be seen as big shots. This is the guy who tells everyone what a smooth operator he is when he is picking up a prostitute. To paraphrase a quote from the TV show Jericho that sums it up for me:
“Don't claim you hit a home run when you started out on third base!”


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:03 pm 
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$150 in a place with drink prices like the DR is hardly playing the bigshot...or superwealthy fantasy...sheesh. I've seen illegal mexican cooks blow that at the local Hooters after a good work week. Some people just don't want to stand around like a bunch a dorks counting pennies toward their next "purchase". They are out to have a good time that night and if they got to buy some drinks to get an attitude flowing big deal...life is short.

That said, I dont encourage getting deep in debt or passing out 100 dollar bills to Denny's waitresses but if a guy tossing around a $150 at the DR and then crawling to his room drunk spoils your good times, you really need to find a country with poorer women to exploit. CR has passed you by, like a jap on lonely WWII Island you're fighting a lost war.

No one likes a cheapo, especially women. Perhaps thats why you find yourself carefully purchasing any ass you get? Just a thought.

Everyone who agrees please leave a one ounce gold coin at the front desk of the Morazon for me, I will pick them up in May. If you disagree you may insult me HERE for FREE.

If you see me buying drinks at the Sportsmens, you'll know what the final vote tally was.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:44 pm 
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I don't know how much alchohol $150 buys at the del rey, since I don't drink. That said, A LOT of guys still like to play the big spender role. If that is what they need to do to be happy, so be it.

Johnarizona wrote:
No one likes a cheapo, especially women. Perhaps thats why you find yourself carefully purchasing any ass you get? Just a thought.


This is actually a good example of what I was referring to. Some guys think they need to spend money to get folks to like them, because like Johnarizona said "No one likes a cheapo, especially women". The issue for me is two fold. One, I don't go to the Del Rey in hopes that someone will "like me". I go to the del rey to find a prostitute to have sex with (and also, to drink their virgin bloody mary's, best in CR). Second, I don't need to spend money to get people to like me, I'm a pretty cool person to hang out with and people generally like me anyway, including ticas.

Also, guys that have lived in Latin America can correct me if I am wrong, but Latinos seem to be some of the most thrifty people around, in general, when compared to gringos. Sure, they will happily spend YOUR money if you have your wallet open, but they are much more discerning with their own income.

Some of the most entertaining times I've had in Latin American countries (aside from the sex) is going shopping with chicas. Not the kind of shopping where the girl is buying shit for herself with your money. Rather things like grocery shopping, where these girls are picking up food for themselves and their family. I've had several amigas stop me from buying something because they knew a place close by that had the item for less. Hell, a Dominicana and a Colombiana both taught me how to haggle with vendors for the best price!


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:58 pm 
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Some of the most entertaining times I've had in Latin American countries (aside from the sex) is going shopping with chicas. Not the kind of shopping where the girl is buying shit for herself with your money. Rather things like grocery shopping, where these girls are picking up food for themselves and their family. I've had several amigas stop me from buying something because they knew a place close by that had the item for less. Hell, a Dominicana and a Colombiana both taught me how to haggle with vendors for the best price!
The sex act is sometimes the smallest part of what I remember & enjoy with getting to know other people in other countries. It just adds another dimension that allows one to get very close very quickly yet still have NO true feelings for them. When I see their daily trials & tribulations it is the best antidepressant I could ever experience. I may feel some for them but it makes me wakeup to what a great life I have had.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:05 pm 
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I find three types of girls. Nice girls, nice girls who are oppotunistic, and working girls. Some of the working girls can be "nice" too, but never forget they're WORKING GIRLZZZ...... After many years of this traveling thing, I believe once a girl accepts money, she's changed forever. I think Tman made this point in the past.

Having said all this, I still believe it is easier to meet a really nice girl - 15 to 25 years younger than you - who will love you until they put you in the ground or blow your ashes off a boat. Many are legit and happy to study English, and while they may become "Americanized" down the road, that's a risk you'll have to take if you want to live in the States.

You can't mix apples and oranges. Working girls should be for phucking only, no matter how "girl next door" they appear. The problem is often guys don't really want a relationship with a civilian girl - for a whole variety of reasons. But should you decide one day you do again, I think your chances are way enhanced anywhere south of Key West.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:12 am 
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. I'm a pretty cool person to hang out with and people generally like me anyway, including ticas.


I'd like ya even more though Count, if ya bought me a nice scotch en la rocas. :lol:


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Johnarizona wrote:
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. I'm a pretty cool person to hang out with and people generally like me anyway, including ticas.


I'd like ya even more though Count, if ya bought me a nice scotch en la rocas. :lol:

For you, mi amor, sure. But I expect sexo completa in exchange. :lol: :lol: :lol:


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