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Nobody has posted anything on this forum for a while, so perhaps I can stir things up a little.

I'm right at about 3 years now living here, and in those 3 years I've had a few half-hearted attempts at the 'novia' route. In my earliest days I still had the US mindset that what I wanted was a girlfriend. I gave it a shot, sorta. One of my close calls is still someone I like and respect, but it all came down to... (wait for it) her BREATH. I can't say what the exact source of the problem was but I'm guessing it was bad dental hygiene coupled with smoking. A second attempt a while later didn't last when I realized that even though she was pretty, cheerful and basically honest, she was always going to be a 'handful' and never really going to grow up.

So for more than a year I have contented myself with p4p, which has worked fine up to a point. I never lack for 'company.' I have some 'regulars' and I go out seeking fresh talent reasonably often. So what's the problem?

One thing that's often missing is real enthusiasm on the part of the chica. Back in the day, when I was young and scoring regularly among the home-girls, it was almost a given that if a girl went home with you, she'd want to enjoy herself. The girls I'm talking about couldn't get enough of foreplay and gave it their best shot to orgasm, if they could. There were lots of downsides, of course. Hard to get them to go home sometimes, hard to deal with the emotional games, but at least as far as the sex went, a girl didn't go home with you if she wasn't 'into it.'

The p4p scene isn't like that, at least not often. The 'average' working girl isn't nearly as interested in an orgasm as in a payday. She may be a 'good provider' and give it her best shot, even be hurt if you don't think she's great, but it's not the same as her being there because she wants to be with you. Some may ask why I should care as long as I get off. Well, the problem is that I find it hard to get off knowing the girl underneath me is more likely calculating how much she owes her babysitter than her chances of having an orgasm.

I do have a couple of girls who actually do get 'into it' with me. The trouble is that they are both just 'ok' in the looks department. Obviously if I could find a hot chick with a great attitude maybe that would be the solution for me. But maybe it isn't. There are some hot performers who seem to like sex with nearly anyone. From what I see, there are a couple of those at the Zona Blue. I don't frequent the place, so I can't say from firsthand experience, but from what I hear there are a couple of hotties there who actually enjoy sex. I guess it's a bit of a turn off to me to know that I'm pretty much irrelevant to her enjoyment. There's an old poem called 'My Last Mistress' that does a nice job of summing my feelings.

So, in short, what's missing even from the best p4p is the feeling that I am 'special.' Maybe that's stupid, but I hope we can all admit that what we want is occasionally out of line with what we SHOULD want.

So, I find myself wondering if I should give the 'novia' bit another try. I am totally ambivalent about this, to be honest. Even assuming that I do get that missing 'something' in a 'novia,' I still have to deal with the negatives, which will be there no matter what.

My leaning right at this moment is to just 'go out' once with a certain chica and see what happens. I also feel that I shouldn't, since I know how this shit always seems to end with me. I'm not really asking anybody for advice as to whether I should or shouldn't go ahead and go out with the chica in question, rather I am just opening up a topic for discussion, do others feel the same 'missing something' that I do, or are they immune to such feelings?

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Your feelings on this subject pretty much sum up why I started the thread "Phuck the Gluch".

Berk.....

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I agree with it. I wish I was young again so this stuff didn't matter. But as an oldster, I can't help but wish for some reality.

I would definitely agree with you.

I go through phases... The I'm just in it to get laid phase, and the, "I want more" phase...

Having 1 - 3 special girls that actually enjoy being with you, and treat you like their novio, is definitely worthwhile...

But it does get a little old... So then you head back to a life of P4P, and seasaw back and forth...

I definitely know what you're going through...

Interesting thoughts Bilko. I too am one that seems to switch back and forth from monger to boyfriend periodically. They certainly both have their good and bad points. At one point in the states I had a regular girlfriend who traveled nearly as much as me for business. Neither of us had K*ds and we both kept our own houses. We would stay over 2 to 3 nights a week. The rest of the time we were free to do as we pleased. It lasted for two years and was probably the best fit for me. Finding that again will be very difficult if not impossible.

BKTUNA
I am never going home

Thank you very much for posting. You summed up my feelings about P4P versus non-P4P exactly.

For me, my efforts at non-P4P have nothing to do with money and everything to do with wanting the girl to be with me because of her attraction to me. This is why I could barely walk into the Del Rey after spending a lot of time in Costa Rica and would do my best to find non-P4P or GFEs.

I would also try to negotiate girls off of $100 per hour not because the difference between $100 and $80 or $60 was a big deal, but rather because her doing so served as a crude proxy for her interest in me. In addition, I would also try to kiss her before hand for the same reason.

Like you, I do not necessarily know what to do with this observation/reflection, but thought I would throw this out for the more experienced people to comment.

I do know, though, that I will be organizing a non-P4P Vertigo excursion for probably 1/26 when I am in town as well as pursuing the P4P option too.

Thanks again for sharing!!!

Harv

It's really weird, but last night was a weird kind of lesson to me, though I can't quite figure out what it all means. First, I had made plans with a friend to go to Castro's disco, where 'normal' girls hang out. We met in the NY bar, and when I got there the girl I was considering as a potential 'novia' was sitting across the bar (she's one of the bartenders). Well, I was busy talking and before I knew it she was gone. Before we could get going he got a call from his favorite hooker, and she shows up. We decided to check out a different closer disco, and it really sucked. I could see he just wanted to go home and Phuck his chick, so I said goodbye to them and walked back to the NY bar. I lasted about 5 minutes there, and walked over to the Key Largo.

I ran into a chica I know, a sweet girl I've known for a long time. She was with a friend whom I had seen several times before. Quite attractive but always seemed very distant and cool. Well, to cut to the chase, I ended up taking her (the friend) back to my apartment, thinking that I could enjoy her long lean body if nothing else.

Well, I was in for quite a surprise. When she came out of the bathroom she lay down on the bed next to me and snuggled up. We must have spent at least a half hour with all our clothes on, just kissing and such. Normally the hookers want to get it over with asap, even if they enjoy it. Not her. It was like the old days. Eventually we got naked and did the deed. When we were done, she wasn't in any hurry at all. She seemed quite content just to lie there and cuddle. I was the one who got tired of it first. Eventually I asked her if she didn't need to go back and meet her friend, and she said yes, she did, and we showered together then she got dressed and left.

Anyway, I feel like if I want a great girlfriend-like experience with a very nice looking girl, I did about as well as I could ask for. I don't believe in god but if I did I'd think he was telling me not to bother with a 'real' girlfriend, to just go with a good hooker.

Anyway, just thought I'd share that. (apologies to G. for cutting and pasting. My earlier msg just seemed to belong in this thread.)

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Ahh, don't be so hard on yourself Pac55. But I must correct you -
You're an arrogant moronic narcissist with a Napoleon fantasy and an extremely extremely extremely tiny dick! But I've had the same chica's tell me that you can lick your own eyebrows, so I guess you're ok!!!

And Bilko... Ya just never know what goes on in the mind of a chica!!

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I'm not going to call you any names, but to the extent that I understand what you're saying, I disagree.

The attraction that a woman feels for a man can be manipulated at will. The fact that a woman is selling her ass does not negate that fact in any way. The techniques remain effective.

I disagree. Women can't manipulate their feelings any more than men can. They can 'fake' it, but what they feel is what they feel. I have seen no evidence of this in my own experience or watching the girls doing their job with others.

When the right responses to aimed stimulus are received you are practically guaranteed an outstanding session (as long as you know what you are doing with hot nekkid women). It is repeatable.

If I understand you here, you're just saying that when you have a good session, you have a good session. If she reacts like you want her to react, it's great. Uhmm, can't argue there.

If you're saying that any woman can be 'brought around' by great technique, I just say no way. Perhaps your experience has been unmixed joy. Great, may your luck continue. But I don't know of anybody else who can turn every iceberg into a chili pepper.

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"It is better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all."

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Pacifica55 Wrote:



I'm not sure if I would want to try this with a Nica!

Happy holidays.....

Steve - Santas Bro

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