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Author: | El Tranquilo [ Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | “Your Papers, Citizen?†|
Just when you thought it couldn't get more ridiculous. ![]() http://www.consumertraveler.com/today/state-dept-wants-to-make-it-harder-to-get-a-passport/ Quote: If you don’t want it to get even harder for a U.S. citizen to get a passport — now required for travel even to Canada or Mexico — you only have until Monday to let the State Department know.
The U.S. Department of State is proposing a new Biographical Questionnaire for some passport applicants: The proposed new Form DS-5513 asks for all addresses since birth; lifetime employment history including employers’ and supervisors names, addresses, and telephone numbers; personal details of all siblings; mother’s address one year prior to your birth; any “religious ceremony†around the time of birth; and a variety of other information. According to the proposed form, “failure to provide the information requested may result in … the denial of your U.S. passport application.†The State Department estimated that the average respondent would be able to compile all this information in just 45 minutes, which is obviously absurd given the amount of research that is likely to be required to even attempt to complete the form. |
Author: | LAdiablo [ Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:03 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: “Your Papers, Citizen?†|
not to mention the increase in federal budget to create more staff and maybe even a whole new department to do the in depth studies on us as individuals. hey maybe even fines plus penalties for incorrect or untimely info. ![]() |
Author: | Redfield10 [ Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:49 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: “Your Papers, Citizen?†|
There's no way I'd be able to remember all that information. Hopefully, it won't happen. |
Author: | Redfield10 [ Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:14 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: “Your Papers, Citizen?†|
Maybe not much to be concerned about.... The questionnaire, boingboing reports, is intended for people seeking a U.S. passport but who cannot supply a birth certificate. |
Author: | Irish Drifter [ Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:07 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: “Your Papers, Citizen?†|
Redfield10 wrote: Maybe not much to be concerned about.... The questionnaire, boingboing reports, is intended for people seeking a U.S. passport but who cannot supply a birth certificate. I am very suspicious of the government getting the authority to impose requirements on allegedly a small class of individuals. They have been know to, once they have the power, to expand it to a far larger class of people. I am concerned because one of the requirements to live outside the United States is that you always have a valid passport. Quote: Privacy groups oppose U.S. passport biographical form
By the A.M. Costa Rica staff A host of human rights organizations and privacy activists are asking the U.S. State Department to withdraw a proposal to make some passport applicants fill out a lengthy questionnaire. The questionnaire seems to be of the type usually reserved for applicants into some of the nation's secret services. One question seeks the address of the applicant's mother in the year before he or she was born. In addition, the questionnaire seeks all prior addresses, a full employment history, names of work supervisors and other details. The groups which have filed to block this document, DDS-5513, said that an applicant selected to fill out the form would have to know the name of his or her supervisor when the applicant worked at McDonalds as a teen. The State Department said via email in a response to a comment that the biographical questionnaire is not designed to replace the standard DS-11, Application for a U.S. Passport, but rather to supplement it only when the applicant submits citizenship or identity evidence that is insufficient to meet his/her burden of proving citizenship or identity. The Department estimates that such supplemental information will only be requested for a small number of applicants, perhaps less than half a percent of the applications it receives annually, it said. In a filing with the Federal Register the department estimated that about 74,000 persons a year would have to fill out the form. The department estimated that this would take about 45 minutes. The privacy and rights groups say it would take 100 hours and require the hiring of private investigators to answer the form fully. "The department understands that some of the information requested is quite detailed," the State Department said. "However, in those instances where an applicant cannot provide sufficient proof of citizenship or identity, it is important for the applicant to provide additional information which will help establish the applicant's United States citizenship or identity." The form is before the Office of Management and Budget for approval. A 22-page objection came from the Consumer Travel Alliance, the Identity Project, the Center for Financial Privacy and Human Rights, Knowledge Ecology International, the Center for Media and Democracy and Privacy Activism, as well as two individuals. The organizations say that the State Department does not have the legal authority to impose such a document on passport applicants and that the document could be applied subjectively, perhaps even on those who filed objections during the approval process. The corporate parent of A.M. Costa Rica also filed an objection via email in which it questioned the failure to let expats overseas know about the proposal. The company did not take a stand on the document itself due to lack of information. |
Author: | SinCity [ Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:15 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: “Your Papers, Citizen?†|
Redfield10 wrote: Maybe not much to be concerned about.... The questionnaire, boingboing reports, is intended for people seeking a U.S. passport but who cannot supply a birth certificate. Well Prez Obama just produced his so he won't have to answer all the damn questions! |
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