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This story was aired on NBC nightly news today.

I would be very careful about rushing to judgment based on the information being provided by a relative. Obviously they are grieving and ready to blame the first easy target.

The facts might be exactly as the cousin provided they might be as AA as stated and most likely they are somewhere in between.

I think the prudent thing to do is wait and see how this plays out over the next days.

Nice to finally see you've learned a very valuable lesson; patience and FACTS play a crucial role here. All this certainly flies in the face of my stoning during the course of this volley - Rocio??? https://costaricaticas.com/phpBB2/vi ... highlight=

As Dramatist has correctly stated there are indeed a least two, more likely three, sides to every story. We have heard his but not the other persons which in fairness I think she should have the right to have posted.

I listened to a fair and balanced report about this on FOX News

Author:	SlimJohnson [ Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:04 pm ]
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Heres an example of a flight gone bad. http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id ... _article=1 Relative Complains After Death on Flight Feb 24 10:15 PM US/Eastern By RICHARD PYLE Associated Press Writer NEW YORK (AP) - An American Airlines passenger died after a flight attendant told her he couldn't give her any oxygen and then tried to help her with faulty equipment, including an empty oxygen tank, a relative said. The airline confirmed the flight death and said medical professionals had tried to save the passenger, Carine Desir, who was returning home to Brooklyn from Haiti. Desir, who had heart disease, died of natural causes, medical examiner's office spokeswoman Ellen Borakove said Sunday. Desir had complained of not feeling well and being very thirsty on the Friday flight from Port-au-Prince after she ate a meal, according to Antonio Oliver, a cousin who was traveling with her and her brother Joel Desir. A flight attendant gave her water, he said. A few minutes later, Desir said she was having trouble breathing and asked for oxygen, but a flight attendant twice refused her request, Oliver said Sunday in a telephone interview. After the flight attendant refused to administer oxygen to Desir, she became distressed, pleading, "Don't let me die," Oliver recalled. Other passengers aboard Flight 896 became agitated over the situation, he said, and the flight attendant, apparently after phone consultation with the cockpit, tried to administer oxygen from a portable tank and mask, but the tank was empty. Two doctors and two nurses were aboard and tried to administer oxygen from a second tank, which also was empty, Oliver said. Desir was put on the floor, and a nurse tried CPR, to no avail, Oliver said. A "box," possibly a defibrillator, also was applied but didn't function effectively, he said. "I cannot believe what is happening on the plane," he said, sobbing. "She cannot get up, and nothing on the plane works." Oliver said he then asked for the plane to "land right away so I can get her to a hospital," and the pilot agreed to divert to Miami, 45 minutes away. But during that time, Desir died, Oliver said. "Her last words were, 'I cannot breathe,'" he said. Desir, 44, was pronounced dead by one of the doctors, Joel Shulkin, and the flight continued to Kennedy International Airport without stopping in Miami, with the woman's body moved to the floor of the first-class section and covered with a blanket, Oliver said. American Airlines spokeswoman Sonja Whitemon wouldn't comment Sunday on Oliver's claims of faulty medical equipment. Shulkin, through his attorney, Justin Nadeau, declined to comment on the incident out of respect for Desir's family. American Airlines, a unit of AMR Corp. and based in Fort Worth, Texas, is the largest domestic airline.

Author:	Irish Drifter [ Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:24 pm ]
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This story was aired on NBC nightly news today. I would be very careful about rushing to judgment based on the information being provided by a relative. Obviously they are grieving and ready to blame the first easy target. The facts might be exactly as the cousin provided they might be as AA as stated and most likely they are somewhere in between. I think the prudent thing to do is wait and see how this plays out over the next days.

Author:	MrLasVegas [ Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:24 am ]
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What happened, happened. Everybody will punch out sometime. We would all rather die at home in bed, but reality says some will go elsewhere. Including on airplanes. Flight attendants are flight attendants. It is unfair to expect them to be nurses or operate a hospital in the sky. The reports said the passenger had heart disease.To blame any of this on the flight staff is just a bunch of losers looking for a lawsuit and an easy payday. Unfortunately, the world as it is, AA will probably offer some compensation. Just setting the stage for more of this nonsense.

Author:	Dramatist [ Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:07 am ]
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Irish Drifter wrote: This story was aired on NBC nightly news today. I would be very careful about rushing to judgment based on the information being provided by a relative. Obviously they are grieving and ready to blame the first easy target. The facts might be exactly as the cousin provided they might be as AA as stated and most likely they are somewhere in between. I think the prudent thing to do is wait and see how this plays out over the next days. Nice to finally see you've learned a very valuable lesson; patience and FACTS play a crucial role here. All this certainly flies in the face of my stoning during the course of this volley - Rocio??? https://costaricaticas.com/phpBB2/vi ... highlight=

Author:	Irish Drifter [ Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:38 am ]
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Dramatist wrote: Nice to finally see you've learned a very valuable lesson; patience and FACTS play a crucial role here. All this certainly flies in the face of my stoning during the course of this volley - Rocio??? https://costaricaticas.com/phpBB2/vi ... highlight= I just wasted by time reading all ten pages of the thread you referenced. I do not see where I "stoned you" anywhere in that thread. Speaking of patience and hearing all sides I did find I posted this on that thread Irish Drifter wrote: As Dramatist has correctly stated there are indeed a least two, more likely three, sides to every story. We have heard his but not the other persons which in fairness I think she should have the right to have posted. If you call that stoning you so be it.

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Author:	Hank [ Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:50 pm ]
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AA has come out and said that the oxygen bottles were not empty and the defibrillator did work, so who is telling the truth

Author:	Zebra [ Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:03 pm ]
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"He said, she said......." ID said it correctly. Emotions are running high now. Don't rush to judgement. Give it a few days to run its course.

Author:	BondTrader [ Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:48 pm ]
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I listened to a fair and balanced report about this on FOX News and seems like this is a set-up for a lawsuit by greedy people.

Author:	Irish Drifter [ Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:02 pm ]
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BondTrader wrote: I listened to a fair and balanced report about this on FOX News Good to see some good old fashion humor make an appearance here.

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