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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:56 am 
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CR DRIVING: SAN JOSE TO SAN ISIDRO DEL GENERAL (PEREZ ZELEDON), VIA EL CERRO DE LA MUERTE (AKA THE HILL OF DEATH), AND DOMINICAL

Before embarking on our second road trip this month, one of the SL drivers told me that we should make San Isidro del General in about 2 hours…after all, San Isidro was only 130 km away. After arriving in San Isidro, “Oscar Malo” (my wingman) and I found this estimate to be overly optimistic! We departed the SL around 11:00 am, and headed for Avenida 2. Our route is described in the following paragraphs:

Once reaching Avenida 2, make a left and head east toward the San Pedro Mall. Avenida 2 becomes Paseo Ruben Dario. Upon reaching the mall, get on the Autopista South and head for the rotary at Autopista Estado de Israel and Hwy #215. When negotiating the rotary, you need to drive half-way around, and take the third right towards Curridibat (look for signs to Cartago). Take Hwy #215 through Zapote. Proceed east on Hwy #215 until you reach Hwy #CA 2, aka the Interamerican Highway. (Yes, there are several different ways to reach #CA 2 from Curridibat, but this is the route that worked for us). Once on this highway, you will be on your way to Cartago (about 25 km from the rotary). As you enter Cartago, Hwy #CA 2 will be to your right heading south. (It is easy to miss the turn!) Take CA #2 / Hwy #2 South. About 6 or 7 km South, there is a turn-off for San Cristobal and a sign directing you towards San Isidro. Disregard the sign, and remain on the main highway! (We didn’t and ended up making an 8 km detour until we found ourselves back on Hwy #2.) At this point, you are about 125 km from San Isidro heading towards the infamous Cerro de la Muerte (the Hill of Death). You will feel your car labor against gravity and higher altitudes as it begins to climb the northwest tip of the Talamanca Mountain range.

The Interamerican Highway snakes between various mountain peaks with names like Vueltas, Sakira, Muerte and Division before reaching Villa Mills where it bends sharply towards the south and San Isidro. Drive cautiously! The road is riddled with potholes and there are no guardrails to prevent you and your rental car from careening down open mountain ridges. Also, be on the look out for MOPT speed traps…more on these guys in the little blue pick-up trucks later! Slow moving trucks and busses will reduce your progress to 10 or 15 KPH…testing the nerves of even the most patient driver. Narrow cartways, no shoulders and never-ending sharp curves and turns severely limit opportunities for safe passing. There is no room for indecision and hesitation here…when you see the opportunity to pass…do it quickly and decisively…you may not get another chance for many kilometers down the road. There are many breathtaking views as you traverse the spine of the Talamanca… but, try to keep your eyes glued to the road.

As you head south and downhill towards San Isidro, you will find various locations with small sodas or craft shops…excellent rest stops for taking in the views. As you approach San Isidro, you will notice a large statue of Christ situated on top of a promontory overlooking San Isidro. There is a restaurant a few 100 meters south, on the left, where you can pull over and take a picture. As you enter San Isidro, the Interamerican widens and becomes a divided highway.
The first things you notice on the approach to San Isidro are the large twin steeples of its beautiful cathedral in the center of town. We finally arrived in San Isidro at 2:45 in the afternoon…almost 4 hours after we left Sportsmens Lodge. Oscar and I checked into the Hotel Los Crestones, located on Calle Central across from the municipal stadium. There are at least half a dozen fine places of accommodation at very reasonable rates. Hotel Los Crestones is a modern motor court with spacious, clean rooms, private baths, secure parking and a full breakfast for $30 a night ($40 for a double).

San Isidro is a tidy little town with a population of 45,000. There are plenty of stores, restaurants and bars to choose from…even a brand new McDonalds on the Interamerican. Getting cash is no problem…I counted at least 3 full-service banks with 24-hour ATMs. Shopping in San Isidro is very inexpensive compared to San Jose. The people are friendly and warm. My good friend, Ana (a native of San Isidro), very accurately described this place as “a town of humble, good-natured people who work hard for their money.” From what I observed, unlike San Jose, San Isidro is safe and secure. When I inquired about a safe at Hotel Los Crestones, the young girl at the front desk told me not to worry…and said, “You don’t need one here…just lock the door to your room…that is your safe.” The closest thing to a crime that I witnessed was when Oscar Malo jumped the fence surrounding the Chirripo Park Office, after working hours, to find out about his hiking permit…he tripped the alarm system.

It is hard not to notice the beauty of the women who grace the streets of San Isidro. As my wingman put it, “These girls not only look beautiful, but they smell beautiful, too!” There does not appear to be much P4P here…I do not believe it is tolerated in this conservative, God-fearing little town. Nevertheless, there seems to be ample opportunity to meet some of these pretty females in a more conventional setting. Oscar and I met a young lady, Melissa, who works at the local Chamber of Commerce. Without any prompting, she told us that the club, La Cascada on Avenida 2, is the place to be for meeting eligible young women looking for a date. (Melissa showed some signs of promise herself!) She added that for every male in San Isidro there were 7 women and 2 gays available. We laughed, and asked her where all the men were. She indicated that many had left town…even the country…in search of higher-paying jobs.

Oscar and I checked out La Cascada that night. The club is a very nice bar/restaurant on the second floor of a corner building. There were at least a half dozen fetching young ladies sitting with either their mothers or aunts…not exactly a “target rich environment” for scoring. One or two cast a furtive glance our way, but we decided that getting any of them into our hotel room would require some work and an investment of time (maybe even a formal courting process)! Since we were there for only a few days, our mongering prospects did not look very bright.

We did discover what Melissa said about gays was true. At the table next to us, two middle-aged gays, an American and a German, were flirting with a young tico…asking him if he had any more boyfriends who could join them for some play. We finished our beers, and headed back to the hotel.

The next day, I met up with Melissa again…with the thought of asking her to give me an after-hours tour of the town. When I saw her, Melissa looked rather pale and weak. I asked her what was wrong…Melissa explained, in a hoarse voice, that she was fighting step throat, and had just returned from the clinic where she received a shot of antibiotics (Melissa pointed to her bottom). I told her about our disappointing experience at La Cascada. Melissa said, “Well, it is only Tuesday…things really don’t start happening until the weekend…” I nodded and thanked her…leaving her alone to deal with her misery.

So much for mongering attempts in San Isidro.

San Isidro is strategically located between the mountains and the beach. The trail head to Mount Chirripo is located 22 km to the north in the beautiful village of San Gerardo de Rivas…and Playa Dominical, on the Pacific, is 35 km away (about a 45 minute drive on Hwy #243). To get to Hwy #243, travel southwest on Calle Central in San Isidro…the calle eventually becomes Hwy #243. The road is narrow and has potholes galore… but the scenery is breathtaking. En route, there are several open-air sodas to enjoy an inexpensive meal and take in the panorama of the mountains and the sea. Upon reaching Hwy #34, if you make a left, you will be pleasantly surprised by a brand new four-lane highway that hugs the beach. There are several points between Dominical and Punta Dominical where you can access this beautiful, pristine beach. A little further south is the beginning of the Ballena National Marine Park (where there is a fee to enter the beaches). My wingman and I spent a wonderful afternoon on the beach at Playa Dominical. The water was clean and as warm as a bathtub. The energetic surf is a magnet for surfers. Beware, though, the riptides are dangerous! We got dragged several hundred meters along the shore before we even knew what was happening. If you continue along Hwy #34, you will reach Palmar Norte and the Interamerican Highway…some 70 km to the south. We drove all the way to Palmar Norte, had a bite to eat and visited the technical college. At the college, several large granite spheres are on display…two are at least 6 - 7 feet in diameter and weigh a couple of tons. Even the paleo-experts are unclear on the origins of these massive stone balls…it is believed that an ancient indigenous civilization living in Costa Rica several thousands of years ago created them. (Perhaps, aliens in UFOs?)

To the north of Dominical, Hwy #34 is a dusty gravel road leading to Quepos. (This rough, bone-jarring route is not recommended for leisurely drives). The stretch is desolate, but beautiful…a lot of agriculture here. Oscar and I drove for half an hour and got as far as Matapalo…then decided to turn back.

San Isidro and Dominical are very nice locations to visit. In my mind, these places are ideal spots for retirement…when the time arrives. The new stretch of Hwy #34 between Dominical and Palmar Norte is ripe for development (which I believe is coming).

Oh… I almost forgot to mention my encounter with the MOPT police on the Hill of Death. On our return trip to San Jose, I experienced my first Costa Rican speed trap. I was stuck behind a slow-moving tractor-trailer that was showing me no quarter. As we approached the sharp turn just before Villa Mills, I spotted a few hundred meters of skip line (a passing zone)… so, I downshifted and stomped on the gas. Our SUV gasped for air and sped around the truck. I was able to swing back into the proper lane as our vehicle rounded a sharp curve and then… the double solid line reappeared. As luck would have it, there was a little uniformed gentleman with a radar gun on the side of the road. He pointed at me and motioned for me to pull over. As the cop walked up towards the car, Oscar suggested that I should tell him: “I was only passing.” I told Oscar to forget about it…this guy only wants gringo money. The police officer very politely explained to me that he not only had me for speeding, but for improper passing as well (I crossed a double solid line). The officer was very considerate…even drawing a little diagram of my transgressions on his summons book. I could have engaged him in a debate over proper uniform traffic control devices or asked him about the ordinance establishing the no passing zone… but I decided to take my beating. The cop gave me a brief lecture on the evils of careless driving, and then told me the fine for the combined offenses would be $75. I asked him, “What will it cost me if I paid the fine on the spot?”…he wrote $55 on a scrap of paper. I paid him the cash. After tucking the money in his shirt pocket, he smiled and said, “No problemo, amigo…no ticket…disfruten su viaje en Costa Rica.” The cop cost me the equivalent of one chica…I got phucked… but it did not bring a smile to my face! :cry:

Happy Motoring in CR!

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Interesting report BD. This sounds like a place I would like to see sometime. I wondered wht the true CR was like outside of the tourist traps and San Jose. Did you make it to the weekend San Isidro?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:00 am 
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...The cop gave me a brief lecture on the evils of careless driving, and then told me the fine for the combined offenses would be $75. I asked him, “What will it cost me if I paid the fine on the spot?”…he wrote $55 on a scrap of paper. I paid him the cash.

BlueDevil,
Very nice, detailed report. It's good to see other CRT members get out of the gulch, and see the 'other side' of Costa Rica. Just driving around the countryside is an experience in itself, never mind the beautiful scenery!

I have been stopped by the policia on 3 different occasions. The 1st time, I did the same as you....paid him $40 and went on my way. I knew it was illegal for him to ask for cash $$$, but mi esposa was with me on that particular trip. She was nervous as hell, thinking we were going to get thrown in a Central American jail cell, so I just paid it.

The next two times I got pulled over, I had a chica with me. On one occasion, I just told the cop that I wasn't going to pay him cash, and that I wanted the ticket. After a brief discussion, he decided that he didn't want to make the effort to write the ticket, so he lectured me, and let me go.

On the other occasion, I told the cop the same thing.....that I wanted the ticket, and he didn't want to do it, but he eventually wrote it. He wanted $50 cash, but the ticket was only 9,000 colones. I gave it to the rental car company, and they tacked on some juice money, and it ended up costing me 12,000 colones. No problem. I got an expensive souvenir!

Keep in mind, the policia in CR know that it's illegal to take money on the side of the road. We, as educated gringos, also know that it's illegal to give them money on the side of the road. In the future, take the ticket. Just give it to your rental car company when you return the car, and they'll pay it. It's not a big deal. By insisting on the ticket, you might be able to get away with no ticket at all, but (at worst) you'll get a traffic ticket. The nice thing is......there's no reciprocity with the DMV in the U.S., so no points on your license !!!!

Thanks again for the report.

And, Xman.....try to get out of the gulch next time around! You'd be amazed at what CR has to offer besides stellar poossy !!!!

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:47 am 
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Mikey-B,

Thanks, for the scoop on traffic tickets. I remember reading an old thread on this topic a while back, but I couldn't remember the fine amounts involved. Your recommendation makes a lot of sense...I will tuck it away for future reference. At any rate, "Barney Fife" and his novia must have had a hell of a party with the $55. :evil:

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Interesting report BD. This sounds like a place I would like to see sometime. I wondered wht the true CR was like outside of the tourist traps and San Jose. Did you make it to the weekend San Isidro?


No, Xman...unfortunately we did not make it to the weekend in San Isidro. "Oscar Malo" had a flight back to Newark on Thursday. I am definitely going back to Perez Zeledon...most likely in May with Wingnut. Are you up for a roadtrip?

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I've driven down to Manual Antonio & Jaco on a fewof occasions renting a car and although it was interesting I'd prefer to let the van & tour companies do the driving.

I've been stopped once a a driver once as a passenger for speeding and botht times the Transit police gave me offers of pay now or pay later offers.

both times I accepted the Ticket then proceeded to throw it out the window about a mile down the road. both of these were over 2 years ago now and I was never contacted by the rent a car companies and have returned to CR many many times & even rented cars from the same company never metioning any problems.

Nice detailed report good to see others traveling outside the G-SPOT :twisted:

Curious I assume 2 years ago they had no computer tracking of unpaid tickets.. wonder how it works now?

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Nice report Blue Devil, would like to revisit San Isisdro sometime.Actually there is a Tico Strip Club in San Isidro about the edge of town headed to San Jose.I was there about this time last year on a Sunday night.Only about 4 girls being Sunday but hear it gets busy on weekends.They ahve short term rooms on site price was about 5000 col for 30 min then.Name is Bar La Mexicana. rbc100

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I visited Dominical last September, traveling the same route you did. We had a driver, who charged us $100.00 each way.
Once arriving in Dominical, we wished that we had rented a car. There are no licensed taxis per se, and finding local drivers to haul us around was sometimes difficult.

My female wing and I are planning to return to Dominical; we've made friends there, gringos and ticos alike. It is a beautiful spot, overrun with gringos who are foolishly spending too much money on real estate. Gringas working for C21 and Coldwell Banker run amok, their shrill voices and avaricious eyes intimidating any who would approach. Overdevelopment IMHO has already screwed up this little piece of paradise for retirees, but for a visitor, Dominical and its little town, Pueblo del Rio are true slices of Paradise.

Local attractions include hacienda Baru' a private reserve which accepts visitors for a small fee. Lula's Horseback Tour is a lot of fun. Marina Ballena as mentioned is wonderful. Also, the four -lane through Palmar Norte ialso runs to Golfito, where even gringos can shop duty free; Golfito is also a great jumping off point for Puerto Jiminez and Drake's Bay on the Osa Peninsula.

About mongering in Perez Zeledon: Yes. There's one bar I know of, described to me by RBC100. It's called Bar Mexicana and is on the northwest side of el centro. $40.00/hour + ST hotel room as of last report. Chicas reported to number fewer than a dozen, most looks in the 5-9 range, with the mode being around 7).

Glad you survived the Hill of Death...you know that you were almost 10,000 feet above sea level at the ighest point in your trip (9780, actually).

B.D., excellent detail and very useful info. I would also add the following:

Hurrican Stan did severe damage to the road between Dominical and Quepos. Sections of the road and at least one bridge may still be impassable.

2. Gasoline is available on the same road, about 1.5 km from the Pueblo del Rio. An OIJ cop (not MOP) is stationed at the entrance to this road and vigilantly checks ID's/licenses/passports. The police presence in Dominical is the direct result of locals putting up money to hire them.

3. The undertow and riptides off Dominical claim a couple lives every year. As a result, an effort spearheaded by Richard Abraham, owner of Coconut Grove cabins and other gringos has raised enough money to [provide local lifeguards with safety equipment, including a 4 wheel ATV. Local gatherings and NFL Monday Night festivities help raise money for this worthy cause.

Dominical has a doctor, dentist and pharmacy. Local sodas, including Su Raza are very good. The more upscale Roca verde has excellent food and service, and its hotel is nice, with a pool. Like many other properties here, it's American-owned.

BTW, there is no mongering to speak of in Dominical, but at least they have laundry service, surfing and an Internet cafe. Tortilla Flats has gringo food and inexpensive rooms/cabins; we enjoyed a Sunday afternoon of NFL, complete with cold beers and hoagie (submarine) sandwiches and excellent french fries!

Visit Dominical, but be aware that it's primitive, ladi back and thankfully to this point, not fully developed.

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I drive because I live here, but would definitely not if I was on vacation. Not because you can't or it's dangerous. But it is a stressful pain in the ass that I wouldn't want to deal with when trying to relax. Sit back and let someone else stress.


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I drive because I live here, but would definitely not if I was on vacation. Not because you can't or it's dangerous. But it is a stressful pain in the ass that I wouldn't want to deal with when trying to relax. Sit back and let someone else stress.


TW, that's fine if your destination is a locale with some kind of taxi service.

In the case of Dominical, Uvita and area, finding paid drivers is difficult. They do exist to be sure, but it is often hard to find a ride.

On one occasion, we waited nearly two hours to find a ride. On another, we were stranded at a local restaurant at 10:00 on a Sunday night. Thankfully, we prevailed upon a tico family to give us the 2 km. ride back to our cabin. This was a pleasant part of the trip actually... Martin, his wife and little boy were kind, generous and friendly people who readily agreed to give us a ride. I was very glad I speak some Spanish.

For convenience and security, tourists to some areas of Costa Rica may have little choice but to rent a car and drive, IMHO.

Had we been able to rent a car in Dominical, the problem would have been solved. We could have taken a bus or van to dominical and then claimed our rental car for local travel, relying upon a driver and van to get us back to San Jose.

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El Ciego wrote:
....Sometimes, a man needs his own horse.....

Totally agree with this statement.

While I have no desire to drive around SanJose, I thoroughly enjoy driving around different parts of the country. I don't consider it stressful at all. As a matter of fact, I consider it somewhat peaceful. It's a whole lot less stressful than driving in rush hour traffic in cities like Jacksonville, NYC, DC, Atlanta, St. Louis, etc. YMMV.

IMHO, I consider having your own vehicle, and being able to go wherever, whenever you want, has always been a great part of my trips.

Get out of the gulch once in a while, and see the country. It'll give you a whole new perspective on CR. And it's even nicer when you've got a chica to keep you company!

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El Ciego,The Bar Mexicana in San Isidro has rooms on site and was 5000col. or about $10 for full sevice about a half hour when I was last there.rbc100

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When your from Florida it can be fun driving along above the clouds every once in a while. I made the drive to Pavones a few times driving through that area is amazing.

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El Ciego,The Bar Mexicana in San Isidro has rooms on site and was 5000col. or about $10 for full sevice about a half hour when I was last there.rbc100


I got confused with a different place, so thanks for the correction. Good price. How were the ladies?

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El Ciego,I would say talent in the 4 to 7 range firly typical local tico bar talent but could be better on weekends.I was ther on Sunday and really slow.rbc100

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