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I guess I'll try to get this thread back on track here. It looks like these recent events have already trickled down to the airports in SJO and Liberia. This is in today's A.M. Costa Rica:

Safeguards against terrorists prompt an alert here
By the A.M. Costa Rica staff and wire service reports

A terrorist plot to blow up aircraft flying between Britain and the United States is having repercussions in many airports around the world, including in Costa Rica.

Investigators said the plot centered on a plan to use liquid explosives, and many airports are now prohibiting passengers from carrying any liquids on board with them.

Costa Rican officials said they tightened security to what they call a yellow alert Thursday after learning of the plot. The alert includes both Juan Santamaría international airport in Alajuela in the Central Valley and Daniel Oduber international airport west of Liberia in Guanacaste.

Officials are following the rules set down by the Transport Security Administration, according to Oldemar Madrigal, director of the Servicio Nacional de Vigilancia Aérea, which also is in charge of security.

All passenger luggage is being carefully screened and all passengers who are bound for cities in the United States may not carry liquids in their carry-on luggage, he said. Shoes are being checked, too. This prohibition includes gels, toothpaste, perfumes, creams and other liquids and semi-liquids, based on information from the British investigators, he added.

Exceptions are made for formula prepared for Babi*s who are on the flight as well as insulin and other medicines that have the passenger's name on the label.

About 15 to 18 scheduled flights leave Juan Santamaría for the United States each day. The traffic from Daniel Oduber includes many charter flights.

Although officials promise an efficient screening, some travelers plan to give themselves three hours to clear security and immigration instead of the usual post-Sept. 11 two hours.

Travelers from the United States to Costa Rica will find that the list of prohibited items are the same there. Some carry-on items are being put in clear plastic bags.

Thursday the security line stretched the length of Dulles airport and check-in lines were crowded as well. Police with bomb-sniffing dogs were patrolling the airport and Transportation Security Administration officials asked passengers to put all liquids, including their morning coffee or any other drinks, in large plastic bins.

The line continued to snake through the terminal throughout the morning, but crowds were orderly, and officials were making every effort to accommodate travelers. Because of the delays caused by the increased security precautions, Washington Metro Airports Authority officials are advising passengers to get to the airport even earlier.

London police officials say the terrorist there had plans to blow up 10 U.S.-bound aircraft in midflight at the same time.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:13 am 
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I'm glad that we can still bring our hair gels, toothpastes, colognes and other liquids in our checked luggage.

Can anyone give me a reasonable explanation of how that makes us safer? Either way, the liquids are traveling on the same aircraft.

I don't buy the official line, sorry. I'll comply, because I want to fly...not because I believe that any of this makes us more secure.

Oh, and if anyone has successfully answered my first question, perhaps he can ponder another...

When did personal safety switch from being a matter of personal responsibility to being a governmental concern? Not talking national defense here (Constitutionally mandated).

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Sad as it is, and I consider some of the stuff being thrown out a little overkill, but that's the world we live in.

There are pockets of radicals in South America that could conceivably used Central America as an entry to the US. Thus we all pay the price.

Just pack everything that might be questionable into your checked luggage and make the best of it. If you don't have any luggage to check I suggest buying a 20" rollaway downtown and put everything in there.

I hope everyone enjoys their trip to fantasyland now welcome back to the world.


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I don't buy the official line, sorry. I'll comply, because I want to fly...not because I believe that any of this makes us more secure.


Agree. There was a quote in my local newspaper to the effect that security measures such as these prepare for past incidents, not future ones, and that the terrorists are likely already thinking about ways to get around the ban.

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Taken from another board:

OK so there are all these dangerous liquids you can't take on a plane...
...because if they mix they make the plane go boom!
...because if you shake them they go boom!
...because if you expose them they go boom!

Now what would be the best way to handle them?
Make passengers throw and pour them in big waste bins in the middle of the airport, where they will happily... errr.... mix!

Incompetence Level raised to critical.


Wit note: I predict it won't be long before NO electronics (cell phones, iPods, CD and DVD players, etc) will be allowed. After that the ban will include digital watches and pacemakers.


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Incompetence Level raised to critical.

The names of 19 arrested, all men 17 to 35 years old:
· Abdula Ahmed Ali
· Cossor Ali
· Shazad Khuram Ali
· Nabeel Hussain
· Tanvir Hussain
· Umair Hussain
· Umar Islam
· Waseem Kayani
· Assan Abdullah Khan
· Waheed Arafat Khan
· Osman Adam Khatib
· Abdul Muneem Patel
· Tayib Rauf
· Muhammed Usman Saddique
· Assad Sarwar
· Ibrahim Savant
· Amin Asmin Tariq;
· Shamin Mohammed Uddin
· Waheed Zaman

OK, CAN WE START PROFILING NOW? :evil:


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No shyte! And I believe they are all from Pakistan.
I've got a few right here in the office I'm not too sure of either.


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PacoLoco wrote:
OK, CAN WE START PROFILING NOW?

Amen brother !!! PacoLoco gets my vote for President! :o

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Mucho wrote: Amen brother !!! PacoLoco gets my vote for President!

I nominate Mucho Gusto for Vice President... :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

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I was just watching the news on Fox and heard one of the liberal whiners flaming President " W " over the well beaten electronic eavesdropping issue. In the next breathe, he said we should be profiling in our security procedures at the airports. It is my feeling that we should be doing BOTH. This current plot WAS first discovered by our electronic eavesdropping of terrorist chatter and then followed up on from there. With what we know now, yes it is correct to ban all liquids in carry on luggage and should honestly, probably be banned in checked luggage also. The positive out of this most recent incident is, that it should free up a few more discount seats on flights to SJO.

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Well, since the IRA packed it in, how many terrorists are non-Muslim?

I say yes to profiling. If you're Muslim & don't like getting searched, TOO BAD!! If you're innocent, you've got nothing to worry about. Maybe it's time for Muslims who aren't terrorists to stand up & oppose the ones that are. The war in Iraq has shown that ANYONE, women included can be suicide bombers or terrorists. So to concentrate on Muslims when the vast majority of terrorists that have attacked the West in recent years are Muslim, is not discriminatory, but LOGICAL.

Jeez...can't you tell I hate the politically correct B.S. we have to put up with these days?? :roll:

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Do you think extra large lubricated condoms count as liquids? I always carry those and vit V on the plane. The only 2 real necessities that if were lost in bagage would be hard or expensive to replace. Fly out Sat will let ya know how it goes.

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Vit V would have to have prescription the way I read the new rules. Not sure on comdoms but do know it is a bad and embarasing idea to carry ones you didn't use your last day through security as the foil wrapers kick off the security sreening in your pockets. Security guard laughed and said it happened to him one time too. Glad didn't have uptight gringa security guard.rbc100

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Vit V would have to have prescription the way I read the new rules. Not sure on comdoms but do know it is a bad and embarasing idea to carry ones you didn't use your last day through security as the foil wrapers kick off the security sreening in your pockets. Security guard laughed and said it happened to him one time too. Glad didn't have uptight gringa security guard.rbc100

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I say yes to profiling. If you're Muslim & don't like getting searched, TOO BAD!! If you're innocent, you've got nothing to worry about. Maybe it's time for Muslims who aren't terrorists to stand up & oppose the ones that are. The war in Iraq has shown that ANYONE, women included can be suicide bombers or terrorists. So to concentrate on Muslims when the vast majority of terrorists that have attacked the West in recent years are Muslim, is not discriminatory, but LOGICAL.


Instead of wasting valuable resources (which we know are limited), what the f_____ are we doing worrying about checking out 88 year old white Grandma's from Des Moines, Iowa. I don't recall reading about any Muslim white Grandmas who've been suicide bombers.

If you've lost your dog which is white with black spots and you go the pound to see if it has been found, do you look at the brown, all white, all black dogs ???

Listening at the moment to CNN and heard a story of a woman that strapped a water bottle "between her legs" to smuggle it on board. Unfu__ing believable.

One lady was bitching about having to throw away $80 worth of cosmetics. Lady if you are so ugly you need to carry that much makeup in your purse, you shouldn't be allowed to fly. :-)

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